Microsoft: You Are the Reason Why We Killed the Start Menu

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DarkenMoon97

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They must be crazy and coming up as to why they had to remove such a great feature of Windows, so what do they do? That's right, blame us!
 
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TL;DR - My opinion is better than yours.

I don't care if some random manager at MS prefers the taskbar over the start menu. That doesn't mean you turn a blind eye and alienate the majority.

I haven't tried Metro yet, and I'll reserve judgment on Win8 until I do, but Microsoft should know this is BAD PR. A company should never point the finger at its customers, it can end only in backlash. While somewhat off topic, if anyone here knows anything about the Mega Man Legends 3 fiasco, they will most certainly know what I'm talking about.
 

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Whats wrong with company's now days? This sounds like blizzard with Diablo 3 and the rage it has started "Your not playing the game how we intended" . Microsoft will its your fault we removed the start button its what we thought you wanted so you have no one to blame but your self's.

I remember when company's use to adept designs to consumer wants and needs. Today it seems its "use it the way your told and if you don't like it to bad its your fault".
 

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Well you see I wouldn't be complaining if they would have replaced it with something that works on mice and keyboards and doesn't act like gnome 3.
 

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Most people that enjoy the Start Menu Probably didn't even have the Customer Experience Enabled. I am an IT administrator and i know for a Fact that most Users turn that crap off... So your gathering your information from uninformed users that are too stupid to turn the Micro$ information gathering off...
 

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No we are not the reason. It has nothing to do with improving the UI feel for the end user.

The reason is you need to push as many of us as possible into the Metro environment so we buy buy buy apps in the millions.

You need to make a money spinning Apps market. And you are prepared to screw over as many possible to make it work.

Ballsy but it shows a lack of respect for the customer really.
 

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I use start to quickly find aps, and i do use the quick launch menu in it , why fucking get me used to it since windows xp if you are removeing my quick launch menu, and just how many things whould i pin on my taskbar, at a full hd resolution yes the screen is wide but you are loseing to much screen realestate if you use a double taskbar like with windows xp and old CRT displays that could go as high as 1600x1200 at 120hz :D to bad they used up almost as much electricity as my whole pc :D
 

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Whatever helps you sleep at night, Microsoft...

Is it really that hard to just keep the damn start menu and make it a user-toggle option?

Continue straying from your roots, MS, and see what happens.
 

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The same idiots who would use the Microsoft Customer Experience Improvement Program are the same idiots that would pin all their programs to the task bar. I am sure someone will program a widget that works like the start button. But, I will stick with Windows 7 till its no longer viable.
 

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That's a load of garbage. Do we like to pin things, yes. So, naturally start menu usage is going to go down. I see absolutely zero justifcation for REMOVING it.
 

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They are right, no one dug through the start menu, because some other PM decided to add that handy thing called "search" to the start menu. Which i use everyday, multiple times a day. So like someone else said, they are using data from apple user that like to have a PC aswell, but dont really know what they are doing on the machines.
 

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I do pin some often used programs to the taskbar (useful feature BTW) but there is no way I would get rid of the Start Menu for it. The taskbar will never hold as many programs as the Start Menu nor will it ever be as useful in finding thing. I use both the taskbar and the Start Menu daily to find what I need and if it is gone I won't be going to Windows 8.
 

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What a load of crud. Sure, I can see that their Customer Experience Improvement Program could very well tell them that 90% of the time, users start their applications from the task bar. I would pin my most commonly used apps there - internet browser etc. 90% of the time I'd launch those few apps. The rest of the time I would use my carefully organised Start Menu to start the app I need. That doesn't mean that I don't want the Start Menu, far far from it!

What next, the government cancels all rail and plain services and dismantles rail lines and airports because people choose to drive for 95% of their journeys?!
 
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All this article is saying is that Microsoft gathered hard user driven data and designed based on it. Even the link to the source article doesn't show any evidence of blame - merely explaining why decisions were made.

But you'd never get that impression with a sensationalist title like this one, nor would you get it by reading the article which is loaded with purposely inciting word choice.
 

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Face it Microsoft, most of us thought there was nothing wrong with the gui in windows7 and are actually kinda fond of it (those of us who use there pc's for more than casual web browsing, anyway). Why would you ram this tablet os down our throat when its obvious you realize the people dont really want it? Or at least let us choose how to set-up our desktops.I guess the customer is never(?) right.
 

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First they remove the "quick launch bar" in favor of that annoying "pin" feature, so I had it add it back as a toolbar to get it.
(I myself prefer only things RUNNING to be on the actual task bar, not 50 things 'pinned' to it). I even wish I could get rid of annoying "pin this to taskbar" option. as I hit it too often trying to right click close a window.

Now they want to take the start button away? with no way to re add it? Windows 7 for me until whatever version comes out after the god awful 8.
 
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who are they trying to bullshit? i've never heard of anyone who wanted the start menu removed...
 

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I haven't even looked into Windows 8 much but if they keep with this stupid metro crap I will never be leaving Windows 7.
 
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