Most Demanding Game

[casualcolors]

I think what wants to be said is that, for its generation of technology (referring to directx) Crysis is extremely demanding. It also is demanding for different reasons than metro. Crysis has some very long draw distances (and not just gorgeous background draws like bad company 2 for instance), but metro2033 on its highest settings is obnoxiously over-textured. Both at their max settings in my experience, Crysis will perform better than Metro, and that is partly because of DX11 features in Metro2033. So which is more demanding ultimately? Metro2033 in my experience. Which is more demanding considering the actual features implemented (pound for pound if you want to say)? Crysis.

 

[PCgamer81]

Why is it not fair? Metro 2033 is more demanding because it put in newer features. That's why the norm, is that newer games usually are more demanding. Crysis did have a long run, much longer than most.

If Metro 2033 didn't use those features, it's likely they would have made the game more demanding with DX10 features the way Crysis did. Or at least they'd have the performance room to do so.

Again, you are arguing as if the title is "hardest game to max out".

That's not the title. The title is "most demanding game".

Metro 2033 runs smooth in normal mode and still looks excellent.

Crysis looks terrible on low settings (think Far Cry).

If someone with a low to mid range PC had to choose one or the other, I would tell then that they can get more out of Metro 2033 than they can with Crysis, considering their hardware limitations.

To me, that is what makes Crysis more demanding.

Metro 2033 runs great and looks great even on Xbox 360 - versus Crysis, where they had to rebuild with a whole new engine just to get it to run properly.

So, basically we have two different games. One game is a pain in the ass all of time, whereas another game is only a pain in the ass if maxed out - in which case it's a huge pain in the ass.

Overall, which is a bigger pain in the ass?

Understand now?

 

[bystander]

Your definition of most demanding clearly is different than mine.

Demanding is my mind means it that is asks for the most power for it's highest settings.

You are arguing that for the same level of visuals, Crysis is most demanding, which is awfully subjective, and much harder to compare as everyone has a different opinion on what is better looking for the power needed.

 

[PCgamer81]

Your definition of most demanding clearly is different than mine.

Demanding is my mind means it that is asks for the most power for it's highest settings.

You are arguing that for the same level of visuals, Crysis is most demanding, which is awfully subjective, and much harder to compare as everyone has a different opinion on what is better looking for the power needed.

A mid-range PC can do more with Metro 2033 than it can with Crysis.

Although it may take more power to totally max out Metro 2033 in DX11 (with all of the features) than is required for Crysis - at least Metro 2033 runs and looks great on less than high end hardware, in which I can speak from experience.

You are not going to experience Crysis as it was intended with anything less than a 5850.

Metro 2033, being a corridor shooter, can look absolutely great and run equally impressively with less than stellar hardware. While it may be true that to get the most out of Metro 2033, it will require more than Crysis - ultimately you can still play Metro 2033 at high visual settings (by almost anyone's standards) with hardware not sufficient for Crysis at equally impressive visuals.

Again, I speak with experience, having owned both games and played them with different hardware configurations throughout the years.

 

[bystander]

A mid-range PC can do more with Metro 2033 than it can with Crysis.

Although it may take more power to totally max out Metro 2033 in DX11 (with all of the features) than is required for Crysis - at least Metro 2033 runs and looks great on less than high end hardware, in which I can speak from experience.

You are not going to experience Crysis as it was intended with anything less than a 5850.

Metro 2033, being a corridor shooter, can look absolutely great and run equally impressively with less than stellar hardware. While it may be true that to get the most out of Metro 2033, it will require more than Crysis - ultimately you can still play Metro 2033 at high visual settings (by almost anyone's standards) with hardware not sufficient for Crysis at equally impressive visuals.

Again, I speak with experience, having owned both games and played them with different hardware configurations throughout the years.

I don't disagree with this assessment. I have both games too and played both. Metro 2033's advantage with lower end hardware probably has a lot to do with the cave atmosphere being a lot easier to render.

 

[PCgamer81]

I don't disagree with this assessment. I have both games too and played both. Metro 2033's advantage with lower end hardware probably has a lot to do with the cave atmosphere being a lot easier to render.

Corridor shooters usually are easier - but once you hit the surface (Moscow) in Metro 2033, the frame rate drops. 🙁

You know, I do like Metro 2033 more than Crysis. It is my second favorite shooter of all time, second only to you know what. I think totally maxed in DX11, Metro 2033 is about the best looking game around. I just wish it wasn't such a system crusher at those settings.

 

[casualcolors]

Corridor shooters usually are easier - but once you hit the surface (Moscow) in Metro 2033, the frame rate drops. 🙁

You know, I do like Metro 2033 more than Crysis. It is my second favorite shooter of all time, second only to you know what. I think totally maxed in DX11, Metro 2033 is about the best looking game around. I just wish it wasn't such a system crusher at those settings.

I think the texturing is incredibly detailed but quite honestly, and not to be harassing you, but some of the character models' movements in metro2033 don't do it for me at all. I might be in the incredible minority but for me, animations mean even more than staggering graphics. I have to say I really liked Crysis 2's animations both for the player as well as enemies overall. That is the 1 point where Metro comes up short imo. However, the Metro storyline is incredibly cool (as would be expected). Just my 2 cents.

 

[bystander]

Corridor shooters usually are easier - but once you hit the surface (Moscow) in Metro 2033, the frame rate drops. 🙁

You know, I do like Metro 2033 more than Crysis. It is my second favorite shooter of all time, second only to you know what. I think totally maxed in DX11, Metro 2033 is about the best looking game around. I just wish it wasn't such a system crusher at those settings.

I was able to play Metro 2033 max settings, with DoF, the only thing I did not use was PhysX. That was with 2 6950's unlocked in crossfire.

 

[PCgamer81]

I was able to play Metro 2033 max settings, with DoF, the only thing I did not use was PhysX. That was with 2 6950's unlocked in crossfire.

I play is maxed without physx and get around 40fps. Physx hits my fps hard, though (ATI).

 

[PCgamer81]

I think the texturing is incredibly detailed but quite honestly, and not to be harassing you, but some of the character models' movements in metro2033 don't do it for me at all. I might be in the incredible minority but for me, animations mean even more than staggering graphics. I have to say I really liked Crysis 2's animations both for the player as well as enemies overall. That is the 1 point where Metro comes up short imo. However, the Metro storyline is incredibly cool (as would be expected). Just my 2 cents.

The bad thing about Metro 2033 for me is that they recycle the same models too much.

 

[Guest]

the aim of the poll is not which game is more demanding at dx 10 but it is to know which game is more demanding with all options enabled and all the options at best possible and at same resolution.
these include mods like crysis natural mode

 

[Guest]

i too go with crysis as metro 2033 is just badly optimized and not so much demanding.
if it would have been optimized better than sure it would be crysis in any case

 

[julius 85]

Guys, try ArmA II and then tell me that Crysis is the most demanding game.

 

[PCgamer81]

the aim of the poll is not which game is more demanding at dx 10 but it is to know which game is more demanding with all options enabled and all the options at best possible and at same resolution.
these include mods like crysis natural mode

Including mods?

Uh...

So many possibilities.

My vote goes to Half Life 2, then (for the most demanding mod in contrast to the actual game). (Cinematic Mod 11)

 

[Sailor Moon]

@PCGamer81,

You really need to calm your pretentious McLovin ass down and stop insulting people...

Anyways. I just hope you guys realize that the average FPS that you're going to get during a hectic 64 player Conquest battle is going to be much lower than the one you get in singe-player.

AND WHERE IS ARMA2?

 

[PCgamer81]

Another game that is extremely demanding when maxed out is Age of Empires 3. I know it doesn't seem it would be, but when you have a lot of going on - I mean hundreds fighting at once - the frame rate crumbles.

 

[Guest]

u said comparing dx 11 to dx 10 in unfair.
then it is unfair too to take bf3 starting mission with crysis jungle mission.
because bf3 starting mission is not so much demanding but crysis jungle mission is as it has to render so many lights and trees.
if there would be jungles in day time then we would have compared.
if it has to be 100% fair then it should be the very same seen from the very same position and the very same software but that would mean the same demand.
later on you would say that half life is dx9 so switch it down to dx9.
then u may say dx1 games are more demanding seeing the old engine.
the competition is never fair.
u may even say that disable dx 10 features in crysis and compare it to a dx9 game such as half-life or much demanding game.
if i had created this post when only dx11 or higher are supported will u still say that crysis is more demanding as it has older engine ?
we are talking about the demand when the best settings are on.
i know crysis is still to much demanding.
and u said the title is not hardest game to max out.
then would u compare crysis on max settings and crysis 2 or some other games at low settings ? huh ?
so there is nothing bad in comparing a dx 9 or dx 11 , open gl 3 or open gl 4 or whatever.
if u still think the competition is unfair , then keep in mind that we are talking about demand when all the best possible settings are on.

 

[PCgamer81]

u said comparing dx 11 to dx 10 in unfair.
then it is unfair too to take bf3 starting mission with crysis jungle mission.
because bf3 starting mission is not so much demanding but crysis jungle mission is as it has to render so many lights and trees.
if there would be jungles in day time then we would have compared.
if it has to be 100% fair then it should be the very same seen from the very same position and the very same software but that would mean the same demand.
later on you would say that half life is dx9 so switch it down to dx9.
then u may say dx1 games are more demanding seeing the old engine.
the competition is never fair.
u may even say that disable dx 10 features in crysis and compare it to a dx9 game such as half-life or much demanding game.
if i had created this post when only dx11 or higher are supported will u still say that crysis is more demanding as it has older engine ?
we are talking about the demand when the best settings are on.
i know crysis is still to much demanding.
and u said the title is not hardest game to max out.
then would u compare crysis on max settings and crysis 2 or some other games at low settings ? huh ?
so there is nothing bad in comparing a dx 9 or dx 11 , open gl 3 or open gl 4 or whatever.
if u still think the competition is unfair , then keep in mind that we are talking about demand when all the best possible settings are on.

I assume you are talking to me?

Because you referenced Battlefield 3's 1st mission and Crysis, I take it you watched my videos. I really don't see your point. Battlefield 3 has consistent frame rates throughout - it is never as demanding as Crysis. At least not for me.

Also, you said "we" a few times. Who is we? You are the only person I hear complaining about the comparisons. Everyone else is making their argument according to what they feel constitutes demanding. You don't get to do our thinking for us (thank God).

With that said, let me also point out that just because you created this poll, does not mean you are the official moderator - "we" can discuss, compare, and argue any and all points that we please.

And if you meant, "Hardest game to max", then that is what you should have called it. I couldn't care less what your's or anyone else's interpretation of "most demanding" is. And when I make my arguments, I speak truth from experience.

Let me also state that your points (or lack thereof) concerning DX shows ignorance. No two games use DX the exact same way, regardless of which version they are using. And just because a game uses a newer version of DX, does not mean that it isn't using certain aspects of the previous versions, as well.

Lastly, do you read what you have written before you post it?

 

[Guest]

yeah i read all the posts and i am talking to you pcgamer.
and u r only saying that turn off dof and tessellation with dx11 in metro 2033.
i am talking about that point , compare both games at best settings then speak , and i havent played both of the games , cuz i recently upgraded from pentium xD.
if still crysis is more demanding , then you maybe right.

 

[PCgamer81]

yeah i read all the posts and i am talking to you pcgamer.
and u r only saying that turn off dof and tessellation with dx11 in metro 2033.
i am talking about that point , compare both games at best settings then speak , and i havent played both of the games , cuz i recently upgraded from pentium xD.
if still crysis is more demanding , then you maybe right.

No.

I did not say, "Crysis is harder to max". I do believe, however, that Crysis is more demanding overall.

I displayed 2 separate videos demonstrating that very point. And I have played both games throughout the years with a variety of setups.

I feel that Crysis is more demanding for average gamers using average graphics presets, and I have a right to voice that experience.

Thank you.

 

[bystander]

It would have been nice if you started off your expression of that thought by letting us know that you were only comparing Crysis at its max setting to other games at more average settings.

I still don't quite get what makes you come to your comparison decisions, and I'm not even sure you fully do either, which is why this went on so long.

 

[PCgamer81]

It would have been nice if you started off your expression of that thought by letting us know that you were only comparing Crysis at its max setting to other games at more average settings.

I still don't quite get what makes you comes to your comparison decisions, and I'm not even sure you fully do either, which is why this went on so long.

What do you mean?

The thread was "Most demanding game". I do not have to state outright that I don't mean maxed out when the thread already speaks for itself. I take it verbatim, and fully expect that any intelligent person would so as well.

And I am not comparing Crysis maxed out vs other games at average settings. You are being unfair in your gross exaggerations. I am saying that Crysis is the hardest game to play at high visual settings, period. I believe that, because I have experienced it. And I did not mind giving you the benefit of the doubt by saying that Metro 2033 is harder to max out - as Crysis is just plain hard to run, period. I thought I explained very well what I meant.

As for your assertion that I don't understand my comparison decisions, I find that statement amusing considering I posted videos of Metro 2033, Crysis, and BF3. I feel I demonstrated very well my opinion that Crysis is the most demanding of these games. And why.

Why you wait until right now to pull this crap, after you and I already reached a compromise, is beyond me.

I think it would be incredibly stupid to call Metro 2033 more demanding than Crysis, seeing as how once you disable DoF and Tess, the damn game isn't even that demanding - whereas Crysis still crushes your system, no matter what. Your lack of reason reminds me of a boxer that beats the living hell out of his opponent for 11 rounds, while his opponent wins the 12th and ultimately the match - it just doesn't make any sense, dude. Just that one technicality, and you want to call Metro 2033 more demanding.

Stupid.

 

[Guest]

why should dof and tess be disabled when they r so good
this is whats its all about , the most demanding game.
crysis may still be the king but your point of disabling dof and tess and comparing is wrong and i am against the point not you or the games

 

[Guest]

and you yourself said that the base engine is dx10 for crysis and dx9 for older whereas base engine for bf3 is dx11 and dx9/10 for older.
if bf3 had chosen dx10 as base engine surely it would be more demanding then it is.
why dont u compare it that way ?

 

[PCgamer81]

...if bf3 had chosen dx10 as base engine surely it would be more demanding then it is.
...

Citation needed.