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This is a joke. Do you know that Bangladesh is a neighbor country of Burma? There are thousand of Burmese Muslim refugee enter in Bangladesh. They are force to enter in Bangladesh by Burmese force and BD government tighten border security for further entry. Some of Burmese Muslim are thrown in sea and floating for weeks. Bangladeshi People send food to them and aid them in water. Bangladesh ask for peaceful solution and take back refugee to Burma.

Did you see that the Burmese president said about riot and Muslim are victim by army? Whatever you believe, try verify it.
 


Cant see youtube video at the moment. Its banned in my country for the anti-Islam movie. I will see those later.
 

Again, what have I lied about your prophet?

If a plane crashes into a steel building, it will become weak and begin to lose its engineered structure to the laws of physics. ever played jenga? Try taking from the highest point and see the whole thing fall over, not just the top.

Also, how do you know the ways each tower was supposed to fall? Are you a civil engineer? Do you have schematics to the buildings? Look at the structures of Towers One and Two. You will see right away that the engineering was designed for a all around force on the building. Any removal would have weakened the whole structure...again the jenga reference.

you have lied about my president! saying a man caused a conspiracy to blame a group.

http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm
http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
http://www.debunking911.com/osama.htm
http://www.debunking911.com/towers.htm
http://www.debunking911.com/civil.htm
http://www.debunking911.com/conspiracy.htm

the more people involved in a conspiracy, the greater the chance a whistleblower will arise:
http://www.debunking911.com/massivect.htm
 

In first page, you post lie about our prophet.
I would also like to point out that your Muhammad also killed people who did not convert to Islam.
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It is a lie. He never did such a thing. Every Muslim and i knows His biography better than you. We are taught about His bio, what He did and why He did, as a Muslim. Never hear about killing but His kindness and love for us.
If a plane crashes into a steel building, it will become weak and begin to lose its engineered structure to the laws of physics. ever played jenga? Try taking from the highest point and see the whole thing fall over, not just the top.

Also, how do you know the ways each tower was supposed to fall? Are you a civil engineer? Do you have schematics to the buildings? Look at the structures of Towers One and Two. You will see right away that the engineering was designed for a all around force on the building. Any removal would have weakened the whole structure...again the jenga reference.
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I want to know why the collapse began from below? Why not from the top where the plane hit? If the base of the building could carry the weight of the whole building then why it crash first and how force go directly to base but not affecting middle of the building?

I am not a civil engineer but have idea about force and motion and strength of material.

Did you get my point about the chain collapse by plane crash? Plane only damage to 93rd to 99th floor. The floor above 99th would collapse on 92nd floor.
you have lied about my president! saying a man caused a conspiracy to blame a group.
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I dont lie about you president. Just told you what i see. My freedom of speech.
 
Stop @mubin those people are not believing what you have said and saying, ALLAH will see them after death memorize it everyone. I swear unlimited times those peoples are not safer in this universe who making fun of MUHAMMAD. GET ready for the wrath of ALLAH. open youtube and watch ALLAH miracles.
 


Yes but he led a global fundamentalist Muslim terrorist organisation that killed, maimed and tortured thousands of people and was wanted for crimes in many countries.

OBL not only advocated violence he planned led and executed many campaigns before retiring to a life of obscurity and bad porn ...

This unknown guy (living in the US) made a bad movie.

I believe there is a huge gaping chasm dividing two two.




 


I hope your not making a threat about our safety?

 

I am very pleased that US forces killed osama bin laden cause he forced muslims to turned into terrorism and muslim want PEACE may ALLAH give power to US army to own afghanistan. We don't want to disrepespect america but only those peoples who are making fun of ISLAM, the guy name is terry jones (LANATI) who made a movie against ISLAM.
 
Why are you taking terry jones side?
TERRY JONES did biggest crime ok I agree what you have said but why did he post it to his facebook page why? why did he spreading it anymore?
 
im sorry to say this is like talking to pre school children they really just dont get the fact that we in the west can and do post anything we like on our websites. whether its offensive or not... its a rite... we have the rite to insult as well as praise.
there is good reason for this. if you let a mad man spout his beliefs he can be opposed, ridiculed and shown up for what he is. but if you suppress him he will grow stronger silently till 1 day he turns up with a million soldiers and overthrows your government. freedom of speech is essential in a democracy. im not saying it wont be abused but at least you will know its being abused.
where you live your government says what you can view.where we live we tell our government what we want to view. if they dont listen they dont get elected.
islam needs to be removed from the political stage, until that happens the west will always be to blame for any ill that befalls a muslim country...
you said saudi arabia was blessed by god... with such wealth... well it does have oil. but its population are per capita very poor. a few at the very top have all the wealth. and if it was so blessed by god. wouldnt it be a green and pleasant land, not mostly desert wouldnt it have more than just oil. http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_02/fieldsDM1402_468x313.jpg would it not look something like this?
http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/20090408-saudi-arabia-desert.jpg and not like this?
 
oldmangamers point about Mr Jones is correct - he is just a lune and not responsible for the movie.

He is just one of those idiots who has jumped into the issue and is bending it to his own twisted means.

Sadly when this sort of issue occurs the first thing that goes out the window is the truth.

1. We don't know the nut who made the movie.
2. The US people and US Govt don't condone it or like it in any way.
3. Freedom of speech is a cornerstone of US life ...
4. Don't read the hate media.
5. Most people ignore everything and just get on with their lives ... life is short enough as it is.
6. Advocating violence is not the way to deal with criticism ... move on.

:)

 
Rod Marsh told me that once that "those paky bastards are good at cricket" ... he may have been a bit drunk at the time ... we smoked a few Old Port cigars (which he sponged off of me) ... I think one day he will possibly become the patron Saint of harshness. If you don't know anything about cricket the above is meaningless drivel ... If you do then you will be aware I was in the presence of a god ... and this is meaningful drivel.

Afterwards I was able to summon small flames from the tips of my fingers.

When I wake from a drunken stupor the next day I realised the bastard stole my lighter too.

Then I had to go back to the Deli on Flinders St in Yokine and get another one ... where I ran into him again ... and he bought the last packet of my brand of cigars.

Sometimes god is a bastard ...


Rod ... your a legend ... and the wold's best wicketkeeper.

:)
 


Are you really in Nowshera Pakistan?

Americans arent really known for their rugby abilities (I played in high school briefly....) we play football. Nothing like the name suggests, its more like hand-egg
 
Christians in America are always facing desecration of the cross and/or images of Christ and here are a few examples; the Piss Christ, and exhibit of a six-foot tall anatomically correct Jesus hanging on the cross made entirely of chocolate called "My Sweet Lord", and the video "A Fire in My Belly" by David Wojnarowicz which shows images of ants crawling all over a crucifix.

So please, save yourself the self righteous indignation of insults to Islam. American's are equal opportunity bigots who do not discriminate when it comes to religion. If anything, given America's Judeo-Christian history, Christianity is criticized far more frequently than Islam will ever be. Any claims that Americans single out Islam only shows your own Islamic bias and ignorance of American culture.

Okay mubin, by consistently stating that Muhammad did not kill or order the killing of non-Muslims in his effort to spread Islam only shows your own ignorance of Islamic history. Is it historical and recorded fact that Muhammad enjoyed a prolific and successful military career. History records Muhammad's military career included raids on caravans, raids on non-muslim Arabic speaking villages under the protection of the Roman Empire, and the forceful submission of various tribes and villages around the Arabian peninsula. It is historical fact that in 630 Muhammad sent troops into Mecca, a force which easily overwhelmed the Meccans defenses, with the intent to take the city by force; and history records that several Meccans were killed during the fall of Mecca. And in the greater context of that period in history, the use of force and warfare throughout all of Asia Minor was an accepted and understood means to extend one groups influence over another; and this include the Muhammad and the Muslims.

You can mubin, argue that Muhammad was a "reluctant warrior" or that Muhammad "only attacked those that persecuted them" but these are just equivocations and excuses for waging war and spilling the blood of non-Muslims, it does not change the historical fact that Muhammad used warfare and killed non-Muslims while spreading the word of Allah. To state otherwise is either denial or ignorance.
 


peace be upon you

Dear brother
Thank you
Do not worry
allah punishes the oppressor in this world and the hereafter
Nevertheless
There is a non-Muslim fair and understanding
After hearing the truth
The study Holy Qur'an
and Sunna
Converts to Islam
And feel unimaginable happiness
Praise to allah for the blessing of Islam


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(the definition of Muhammad the Messenger of Allah)

Peace be upon you

Mohammed bin Abdullah bin Abdul Muttalib peace be upon him
He was born in 570 AD and died in 633 AD
Many people in these days of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Who is it exactly? What did he teach? He loves a lot of people do not do some of them? Did he live up to his? Did the holy man? Was he a prophet of God? What is the truth about this man? You be the judge!

Here are the facts as narrated by thousands of people, many of whom knew the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and knew him personally.
He was born to the lineage of Mecca and the oldest tribes.
• named "Muhammad" is derived from the source, "Hamad," and the public since that time and until this very moment, God inherits the earth and them arriving him many times per day, - blessings of Allah be upon Muhammad peace be upon him -
• He never habits of the tribe in the worship of idols, idols or gods that they fell into.
• He believes that God is one God and must be worshiped alone, without any partner.

• He was revered and respected name of God never took a jest or ridicule was not used for the purposes or the interests of no use.
• He despised false worship and all the consequent behaviors and transactions degenerate.
• committed to the application of all religious teachings, "the teachings of one God," as did the prophets before him.
• He never. He advised others not to commit this shameful act.
• He forbade the hills as he did before Christ, peace be upon him centuries.

• He never gambled and did not allow it.
• did not drink alcohol, though it was a very normal thing for people of his time.
• backbite not anyone ever, and shows what he hears from gossip and backbiting.
• He fasted closer to Almighty God and away from the desires of him.
• He said that the Messiah Jesus son of Mary - peace be upon him - is a miracle of God's creation and that the mother of the Virgin of the best
• He ordered the reunion of one family and reverence for family ties, also re-building relationships between family members.

• urged his followers to engage women through legal marriage and deprived of adultery.
• He insisted - upon him blessings and peace - to give women their rights of dowry, inheritance and property ....
• All manners of noble patience and humility, and others had to admit to everyone who knew him by creating Hamid, who is unparalleled among humans.

A - did not lie Muhammad - peace be upon him - never, did not betray the covenants did not false witness, never. Was known by all the tribes in Mecca, known Saadiq Secretary.
B - has not weighed - peace be upon him - never, and did not have relations outside of marriage did not accept such acts even though it was very common at that time.
T - not associated with any woman except in the framework of legitimate marriage and the presence of witnesses according to law.


W - relationship with Ms. Aisha - may Allah be pleased with them - was a valid marriage relationship we know the details of the conversations, which shared the Aisha as the highest relationship between a man and a woman full of love and respect. Ayesha is considered one of the best of Roy talk about the Prophet - peace be upon him - was not only one day the wife of the Messenger of Allah, were not linked to any other man, the Prophet did not tell him - peace be upon him - that is never a negative attitude.
C - Campus - peace be upon him - killing until it is clear from the rule of God in the situation. As God's teachings in this regard: Allah has permitted to kill all of the experience of Muslims and Islam, but fighting on the border with the province, including that of God on this matter.


H - Islam has forbidden the killing of any innocent life.
X - never happened no genocide of Jews. He asked forgiveness for them and provided them with protection, even after they broke their covenants with him - peace be upon him - several times. Did not address them, the messenger is only after it became clear to him that they betrayed him and wanted to sign him and the Muslims. Retaliation was applied only to those who proved to be treason to God and His noble Messenger.

D - then known tribes to own slaves and that Islam came to edit the order necks. He has the prophet freeing slaves and ordered all his followers to do so. It up - peace be upon him - free maid - who was like a son to him - Zaid bin Haritha and by Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him bought Bilal al-Habashi - the first muezzin in Islam - only to edit it.


Y - For those who were trying to undermine the messenger and kill him, (The most famous incident that occurred when Nam master the generosity of God and his face in the bed of the Messenger of Allah on the night he left the city with Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him), he did the Prophet anyone ever to punish those involved in such such acts. The biggest proof of that when the Prophet entered Mecca triumphantly and his was the first orders to his followers not to harm any who offend him and his companions were (peace be upon him). That is one of the scenes of amnesty and pardon in the life of Holy Prophet (peace be upon him).


T - did not allow the Muslims to fight in the first thirteen years of advocacy. It was not related to fight because they were experienced to do so because the nature of the life they once knew and long-standing disputes between the tribes, but it's God's fight had not been revealed yet. But after that the law of God Almighty the fighting began with the duties and rights arising from that and the limits of God. The orders of God on the subject of fighting and a clear and explicit for those who fight and how, when and what limits must not be overcome.

G - forbidden in Islam to destroy the infrastructure is strictly prohibited unless ordered by God according to certain situations.

Q - While the enemies of Islam seek to abuse the Prophet in various ways and cursing, he (peace be upon him) praying for their guidance. The best proof of this trip (peace be upon him) to Taif, which hurt the Messenger of Allah mischief very beginning of the refusal to meet him by the tribal elders and ending with the beat and pelted him with stones by children who are left behind even bloodied feet peace be upon him. And when he came Gabriel peace be upon him to take revenge on his enemies and offered him to order the king of the mountains to be applied on them, reject (peace be upon him), and he urged them to be guided and said, "It may be out of the solidity who believes in God." What the will of the Holy Prophet is to deliver the message and did not take care of himself and the extent of the injury suffered.

U - The Prophet (peace be upon him) that every child is born on instinct (to Islam: Islam means complete submission to God and follow his orders), but influenced by the society in which they live and education received by the change what's inside of common sense.


R - The Science of the Holy Prophet and his companions, all Muslims to worship the one God the God of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, David and Solomon and Jesus, peace be upon them all and believe in them all the apostles and prophets, and the servants of the One God. He also stressed the respect and reverence for all the prophets, without differentiating between them.


Z - also said that the assets of the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel are from the same source as the Quran - not a God -
I - predicted the Prophet - inspired by God - a lot of events have already been, as told from the events of the future and you will get there as well.


Q - I have stated in the Koran the story of the sinking of Pharaoh, when the right of the Prophet Moses peace be upon him is outside of Egypt, "the day shall We save thee to be behind those verses," The French scientist, Maurice Bucaille in his book "The Bible, Quran and Science" to confirm this fact, which stunned the world when it reached through his analysis of the mummy of "Pharaoh" that the effects of salt remaining due to drowning in the sea, and said this is what allahsays in the Qur'an more than 1400 years.

P - The events of the story of the sinking of Pharaoh was before the mission of the Prophet (peace be upon him) thousands of years and mentioned in the Koran did not show this truth to the world only a few decades ago after more than 1400 years to the revelation of the Qur'an ... How the messenger to know this, if not the Holy Word of allah one


 


If you depends on lie like film producer made. Muhammad(saw) did march to mecca to secure holy Kaaba. Muslims life was threaten by meccans when pilgrim to kaaba. Also Muslims were forced to abandon their land. They just reclaim their land and their right for Kaaba. And mecca was taken peacefully, with no killing. Non-Muslim escaped mecca by hearing Muslim march. So there was no blood.

Muhammad(saw) ordered Muslim to attack those who attack you and dont attack women and children.

Once mecca was taken, an anti-Muhammad(saw) old woman was leaving with her heavy bag. So she couldnt move well. Watching that, Muhammad(saw) went to aid her. He carried her bag.

Then Muhammad(saw) asked her, "Why are you leaving mecca"

Old lady: "I hate Muhammad(saw) and cant stay in mecca with Him. Who are you?"

Muhammad(saw): "I am the one Muhammad(saw) you hate"

Old lady: "If you are the Muhammad(saw) then i was told lie about you. A man like you can never be bad. If you are the prophet of Islam then convert me to Muslim"

This is the true story. Thats why we love Him very much. And about other war in Arabia, yes those are true but for defense. Only when non-Muslim attacked Muslim to eliminate them. For defense war was necessary. Isnt saving life is mandatory?
 
Ever notice in these Islam themed threads that enin inevitably shows up and makes a mile long post citing the Koran and scripture. These mile long posts usually show up after some hard facts are presented that contradict the Islamic narrative presented by folks like mubin, enin, and xtreme5. What's really curious about these mile long posts is they answer no questions and are seemingly cut-and-paste out of a Islamic FQA. It's almost as if enin anticipates that somehow these mile long posts are going to automatically change the facts and history and make converts out of the reader.

But then again, maybe it's just me...
 


I am not telling OBL was a good man. I dont care about him. But i am telling OBL to USA and the producer to Muslim is same type. These two person are same. So putting bounty on his is head is same as OBL's head.

Cause he make lie and many of you believe in lie and many already believed in lie before the film. And those lie makes Islam and Muhammad(saw) warlike and violent. So why dont it protect it?

Look, Muslim use Muhammad's(saw) name before their first name like, Muhammad X. This means they are followers of Muhammad(saw) and try to follow Him exactly. When someone lie against Muhammad(saw), that means he/she lie against us as we follow Muhammad(saw) and insult us as well. When the producer said Muhammad(saw) was womanizer, homo and child abuser, thats mean we are following. Which is lie.

The original film was named as Innocence of Osama Bin Laden and OBL was protagonist. But it changed to innocence of Muslim and Muhammad(saw) is protagonist. It was done intentionally.

reynod wrote:
I hope your not making a threat about our safety?
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xtreme5 dosent make any threat about your safety but ensure that those who lie intentionally, will suffer the consequences by Creator.
 


Yes.

enin either respond to other posters in the threads and stop the spamming or your account is going to be deleted.

This is your last warning.
 


You can say it that I believe in lies but you cant say I am a lier or our lie against prophet. Look, we believe that Christianity based on a lie. Jesus is not Creator's son. Which is even forbidden to say in Islam as it disrespect to Allah. But did we make fun of it or throw lie word about at Christean? What we believe is lie to Christean. But we will never going to insult Christean with our believes.

Saying Islam is lie, is another thing and making false story with Islam/prophet is quite another. You have to understand that there is purpose.

This film producer is irrelevant. Much of all entertainment media is rubbish, turn it off man :). Anyway, it's impossible to make a film about something that happened 1,400 years ago.

Please realize, this film was not made in Hollywood as some big blockbuster, ok? Some moron made it in his mother's basement, had some film editing skills and posted it to youtube.
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I know the film is low budget like $50,000. But look the at the way the world see Islam/Muhammad(saw)/Muslim. Do you think it is good idea to spread any more lies which is not even in history?

What I would like to see mubin address was the coordinated attack, in 20 different cities throughout the Middle East, and off course the famous Libya embassy massacre and defilement. Is there any plan by majority "moderate" Muslims to stem the flow of this violence and extremism? If what you say is all true, then why are these thousands not obeying the same laws as you believe?
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Do you think all non-Muslim, Christean, Jews and Hindus are good people? There are also bad people in other religious and extremest in Hindu. Some bad Muslim and extremest highlighted in the media dosent mean entire Muslim community is bad. Media just focus it as it is hot news to non-Muslim.

Muslims all around the world are same. Maybe there is some misdirected Muslim. But people are working on them to make them right. Greedy politician need to be remove from Muslim land. I think you see we are doing that.

*also, I didn't proof read this. My brain hurts.
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Believing is totally your matter. But whatever you believes, try to verify it.

And its ok to have question/argue.

 
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