MSI Caught Overvolting GTX 660 Ti, 670 Power Edition Cards

[alextheblue]

[citation][nom]aicom[/nom]There's a reason those caps are as low as they are. Remember how Intel said the maximum supported voltage of RAM running on their IMC was 1.65? Turns out Intel knew what they were doing (imagine that?) and reports started surfacing of dead CPUs after running for extended periods above 1.65 V.[/citation]While you're correct, not all chips have the same limits or sensitivity. AMD's IMC can drive memory at much higher voltages without any issues. That's why some people didn't listen, they had overvolted memory just fine with older generations of Intel chips and AMD chips alike. The memory itself was clearly capable, too.

 

[bigshootr8]

guess I'm returning my 660ti powered edition sad face >

 

[bigcyco1]

This is what happens when Nvidia tries to lock down the overclocking abilities of their cards...

maybe some people want the card unlocked what ever happen to if you break it it's your problem but the option is yours 😉

 

[FormatC]

The GPU overvoltage can be done very easy and clean. It's called "pin-mod" and the result is a higher GPU voltage but the RT 8802A runs in this case under legal conditions. However, this would have been visible for Nvidia
😀

Does anyone remember the 8800 GT? The same PWM controller and the same way to raise the voltage over the pins. If a professional wants to overclock the card, then he will try this opportunity.

 

[sherlockwing]

OK, so I scrapped my MSI PE plans, will wait for Sea Islands in 3 month.

 

[medicineball]

I was close to buying the msi branded 680's last week after a friends recommendation, but i went with EVGA. To a complete computer noob like me, after seeing this I would definately think twice about purchasing msi products across the board, not just this specific card.

 

[jerm1027]

I was close to buying the msi branded 680's last week after a friends recommendation, but i went with EVGA. To a complete computer noob like me, after seeing this I would definately think twice about purchasing msi products across the board, not just this specific card.

I'm honestly not sure how MSI got a name. I got an MSI GTX 560-Ti Twin Frozr II, that died. They sent me an N570GTX, that died. I have a MSI P67A-G45 motherboard and the ethernet port went out on me. And now reading this, I think that just might be the nail in the coffin for MSI in my book.

 

[jabliese]

All righty then. Interwebs says the TL431 has programmable output up to 36 volts. When is Tom's going to break out the solder gun, replace the 5v problem piece with something more robust, and do some old style overclocking?

 

[Spartin503]

That's just a shame.

 

[bystander]

[citation][nom]BigMack70[/nom]Why do you think I have 7970s instead of 680s?[/citation]
That depends on what you want. I'd take 680's for 3D Vision, any day. There was an interesting article on Crossfire done on this site that also showed a bit more micro-stuttering than on SLI systems, though it was tested with the 6000 and 500 cards.

There are reasons for choosing either.

 

[computernoob29]

if they did this how come they both have 5 star ratings almost everywhere there sold, like newegg and ncix for example

 

[bigcyco1]

Because some people don't care about overclocking hardcore some of these non reference cards are already factory overclocked and there happy with that is my guess anyway

 

[jerm1027]

Yet another strike for MSI.

Our original plan with Trinity was to focus on the chip’s graphics performance, particularly when paired with a low-end discrete Radeon. The price difference between the A10-5800K and chips like Intel’s Core i5-3550 allows for this sort of budgeting, and we wanted to see if the Trinity + Radeon combination would be faster than the i5-3550 with the same card. Our plans had to be adjusted at the last moment, when our motherboard — an MSI FM2-A85XA-G65 — caught fire.

In eleven years of hardware testing, this is only the third time I’ve seen a system spontaneously ignite. I confirmed that all components, including the CPU cooler, were properly secured and functional. There were no abnormal temperatures, BIOS warnings, or voltage fluctuations prior to the burnout and the system’s PSU remains fully functional. The system was plugged into a surge suppressor, which in turn was hooked to a UPS, and neither unit tripped or reported any problems.

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/137210-once-more-unto-the-breach-amds-trinity-takes-on-intels-ivy-bridge/2

 

[asoputra]

i was about to order one of them cards. fiuuh, dodged the bullet.

 

[xixou]

My MSI 660 ti PE works like a charm.
This card is great and very robust (got 0 post bios problem or win booting problem.
My old 670 gtx was creating trouble at boot time randomly, not this one.

Vref fro, the TI chip can only vary between 2.4 and 2.5V.

Where are those 9.6V coming from ?

 

[zsde]

jerm1027, your sensationalism must be questioned. The first report of a singular instance of a test MB is found by you. Then you use that example as a reference to an article that discusses a GTX660/670 series graphics card? Furthermore, not a sibgle one of these VGA cards has been reported as actually having failed because of the reported "fault". What is the commonality between your link and this report, if you please. rather discuss your concerns with your MSI components on the user forum at msi-users.com That may add value, instead of just making unfounded comments.

 

[Guest]

am i glad i bought 2 lightnings

 

[thexalchemist]

So I have a MSI 660ti. This kinda pissed me off when I saw it.
But then again my 660ti doesn't overheat or anything.
Is it still more prone to less life than other 660ti's i.e. EVGA, Gig.

 

[Guest]

Overclocking and overvolting are faulty activities.
"Factory overclocking" is bad marketing.
The "enthusiast" teenagers don't underdstand all of these.

 

[computernoob29]

[citation][nom]thexalchemist[/nom]So I have a MSI 660ti. This kinda pissed me off when I saw it. But then again my 660ti doesn't overheat or anything. Is it still more prone to less life than other 660ti's i.e. EVGA, Gig.[/citation]
if it is, im pretty sure msi has 3 year warranty

 

[jerm1027]

if it is, im pretty sure msi has 3 year warranty

Which hardly means squat if shipping comes out of pocket in addition to the time it takes to confirm a dead GPU. I've had 3 RMA's with MSI GPU's (560-Ti and 570). If it wasn't for my old 5830, I would have had weeks, if not months, of gaming downtime.

 

[Guest]

Igor Wallossek & Benjamin Kraft,
Any chance of a follow up? As its over a month now. And how to make a difference inbetween those (possible rev1 and rev2) cards.
Thank you.

 

[bigcyco1]

http://"http//www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/10/3/nvidias-green-light-program--improving-quality-or-strangling-innovation.aspx%22

 

[bigcyco1]

http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=162220.msg1188738#msg1188738

 

[Guest]

I unfortunately was one of the many who've run across this black screen problem and now may find myself fighting with MSI to resolve it. I got an Antec HCP 750w PSU and ended up doing an RMA with Antec before realizing it was the card. Even tested it on my roommate's rig who has the same PSU and it produced the same results. Amazingly, it works on my EarthWatt 650w PSU. So yeah, can 100% confirm this is a major problem. And MSI needs to take responsibility.