My 3DMark2001 score

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I don't know what's taking him so long. It only takes 5 minutes to make a hotmail account.

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Hey, there are some hard words to read on that application. Like "the", "and", "or", and especially "a". Leave Fugger alone, I'm sure he has a perfectly good explanation. Or something.



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He cant post results cause he melted his p4 trying to oc it enough to match the claims he so arrogantly spewed forth from his ass. He is waiting for his cpu rma from intel!

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Back from a mini vacation in hawaii (Im sure you all missesd me), LMAO at some of your replies =)

I have not even tried 3Dmark2001 since I got my new card, yet you girls speculate everything from "Melted his P4" to "waiting for new drivers". I am in no hurry to damage my system to prove a point to you losers. like I posted many pages back "Im sure this is how many AMD's get fried"

After seeing that post of 2300 from a AMD 1.4 and a Geforce3 I cant stop laughing.

"He cant post results cause he melted his p4 trying to oc it enough to match the claims he so arrogantly spewed forth from his ass. He is waiting for his cpu rma from intel!"

huh? I posted I can hit ~7500 and I posted SS of 7360... get over it already. My RMA was for my video card not my processor (I dont own a AMD). "If" I have the time Ill post pics of why my Geforce3 went bad. Almost 2mm gap of compound/glue between CPU and HSF with a 40% surface coverage. extreamly poor QC.

I like the post where someone made the reference "size of your wiener", yep I agree. fighting over wiener size, err I mean 3Dmark scores is pretty lame indeed.

Anyway, I have allot of posts to catch up on. lots of "my AMD sucks, please help" posts to parooze thru.

I leave for DC tomorrow and will be gone for a few more days. Dont worry, Ill be back =)
 
Fugger either you really need to reread the thread to understand what were talking about.
Or you need give up on playing games because we are a little too smart for it.

Here I will Spell it out for you.

You said you hit 7500 in 3dmark2001 with an over clocked processor and Stock GF3

We in turn called you a Fuggin Liar.

You then Changed you Story and said you posted 7500 with an over clocked processor and an over clocked GF3.

We then in turned laughed at you once again for lying then trying to cover it up.

You then said you would post a link to your scores.

Once again we laughed at your inability to actually do it.

I want to see you post 7500 with an over clocked P4 and a stock GF3.
It can’t be done.

You actually at one point had some credibility on these boards but that’s all gone now
 
I later confirmed (after my post) that my video card was overclocked (and I posted that I was overclocked and the speed), I usually dont save the settings. but I have been running at that speed for months now not knowing that I was still overclocked. no artifacts or defects at that speed.
 
Well you know you can't prove your point, am I right? If you really want to shut us up why don't you just go to Yahoo or Hotmail and set up a quick E-mail account? That won't take longer than 5 minutes, but you rather spend your time here posting retarded posts. All I can say is you were either too dumb and fried your GF3 by overclocking or you are waiting for the 20.80 driver to give you the extra 30% boost. Man, you should seriously consider changing your name to FUGGINMORONER
 
Regardless, you said you could do it overclocked. If not, admit it, if so then prove it. No big deal, everyone makes mistakes.



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Yeah 7500 Can be done at 1.8ghz+ and an overclocked card.
I was at 1.9 and overclocked my card and got 7500 and something. To bad I was getting a suntan off my Video card
in the proccess
 
Its posts like yours that make me laugh at your stupidity, At this time I dont feel the need to trash video card #2 or my system just to show you girls up. I dont care if you call me a liar or whatever. nothing new from the lemmings on this board. BTW there are allot of posts on P4 1.5Ghz overclocked to 1.83Ghz with same video card getting same score as me. Ill let you guys keep your hard on a few more days =)

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?960060
(this is not the highest score, its a machine that is close in config to mine)

Im running a newer/better driver.

So is this what AMD lemmings live for? a score in a benchmark? or pushing your system so far it almost breaks each time? I know all the scores 7500+ are super tweaked machines that are not stable but for a few minutes and to achieve the benchmark I have seen other people deselecting tests and running with artifacts.

Try this, go to the ORB and search for all scores 7500~9000 and notice all the top scores are P4's =)

best driver ive tried so far is the 12.90, And I dont believe you can get a 30% increast from 20.x driver. maybe 3%. the most gain is from overclocking the video card.

Repeat, deselecting tests, speed cheat, editing the registry, benching with artifacts, and a stable machine for only minutes is very lame. I get a decent score without resorting to any of the above.

Other people are running the 10.70, some say the functionality it lacks increases the speed and scores. Docliv runs this driver without any special cooling.

http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?1379249

All that being said(you lemmings call me a liar in almost every post anyway), its too easy to cheat at 3Dmark2001 scores. and for what?? it doesnt make your dick any bigger.
 
NO once again you don’t read, We were calling you a liar because you said that you got 7500 with a stock card. Now you come out and say that yeah I know my card was over clocked I just didn’t know it. Something I find hard to believe but won’t call you a liar.

I’m sure people do bench their machines unstable for scores. That has nothing to do with the fact its not possible to get 7500 without over clocking your card. I don’t care What else your running its just not going to happen.
 
It's so typical from you. When you had nothing to defense yourself, then resort to name calling!

:smile: Good or Bad have no meaning at all, depends on what your point of view is.
 
I agree with you, it is currently not possible to get a 7500 without overclocking your video card or cheating to some degree. I made a mistake when I said my card was at stock speed. I later corrected that mistake posting my video card settings. please read back some you will see that I corrected myself without hesitation. I purchased my video card in early may and loaded the stock drivers then. I used powerstip to achieve overclocking at the time and have not messed with it since(by default settings are not saved, and I usually dont save them). and for the first run I did not check it or adjust it any higher.
 
Alright then were clear
I wouldn't OC the GF3 without some really really good cooling. I did mine with the stock HSF and could have swore I saw an orange glow coming off the thing. Pelt or VapoChill would be the best bet
 
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reading this pointless thread, I've realized there's no point in ever coming back to this forum again.
Mat & fug....enjoy yourseves. You really desrve eachother.

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Just get a Hotmail account and post <b>your</b> scores. That way the arguemnet is over.

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It's still not YOUR machine, it's so obvious that you weren't able to achieve 7500 so you won't post your score. If you could, you would be posting the link 20 times a day wouldn't ya?

I am glad you finally admitted a machine can't achieve 7500 without o/c both the processor and the video card, if you did this earlier the tread would end in no time. And that's the argument has been since day one. By the way, if you want a pointer on how to achieve high score, here is the tweaking guide for all of you. I find it pointless, since it's only a number that really means jackshit, to me, the 3DMarks2k1 score is just a number to make sure you configured your system right, anyway, here is the guide by Gibbo:

System Installation Guide
1. Start of by doing a fresh/clean install of your operating system.
2. When your O.S. has been loaded, install the VIA 4in1 Drivers, and any other AGP drivers you require. Run Defrag.
3. Install DirectX 8.0a or 8.1 BETA. Run Defrag.
4. Install your VGA Drivers. Run Defrag.
5. Install any SCSI Adapters (Highpoint controller etc.) Run Defrag.
6. Install your Soundcard, and any other devices. Run Defrag.
7. Check the system is fully working, now start to tweak your BIOS and try overclocking your processor.

BIOS Tuning Guide
1. Disable any video/system bios cache options.
2. Configure your RAM timings for best performance. (Trial & error is required here).
3. Enable AGP 4x & Fast writes, but beaware that these can casue instability.
4. To improve stability of AGP 4x, find the signalling strength in the BIOS and set it to either DA, EA, FF or 00.
5. Enable all other performance options one by one, and run some tests.

Tuning your O.S.
1. Onced you've installed all of your drivers you can start tweaking the O.S. itself.
2. Do one final check by running scandisk & defrag on the HDD.
3. Now optimise your swap file, first of all disable the swap file completely, and restart windows. Now run Defrag.
4. Now create a swap file, roughly double the size of your physically installed amount of RAM. So for instance if you have 256Mb installed, then set the minimum to 480Mb and the maximum to 480Mb, click apply and restart.
5. Run Defrag again.
6. Now to further assist your RAM and swap file, open up your system.ini file in notepad and add the following line under the [386EnH] section, ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1, this tells windows to use all of your RAM, and access the swap file only when needed.
7. Now set your read ahead optimisation, by right clicking my computer, select performance tab, pull down the file system arrow and set the typical role of your system to network server, this increases the cache, and should give a small boost.
8. Now using notepad again, edit your config.sys file, and enter REM in front of all lines/entries. Now enter [ b]Stacks=0,0 on a new line, this can speed up the Windows kernal considerably. Also open up your Autoexec.bat file and add REM in front of every line.
9. Now press start, select run and type msconfig, now click on the starup tab, and untick all of the boxes.
10. Right click my computer, select trouble shooting, and disable system restore.
11. Try to have very few icons on your desktop, don't have a background, on display properties, disable any features to improve display quality, like show icons using all possible colours etc.
12. Delete any files in your c:\windows\temp\ directory.
13. Make sure you completely disable power saving in Windows.
14. Also check that you are not loading any unecessary network drivers, and that system scheduler is disabled.


Improving your 3D Mark 2000/2001 scores
1. Defrag your hard before and after installation.
2. For 3D Mark 2000 I recommend the 7.xx and 8.xx series drivers, 7.68 and 8.03 worked best for me.
3. For 3D Mark 2001 the 12.90 drivers appear to be the most stable quickest.
4. Once installed set your desktop resolution and colour depth to the same as what the test runs at, which is 1024x768 in 16 bit colour for 2000 and 32 bit colour for 2001.
5. Set your refresh rate to 60Hz.
6. Now download the NVtweak 3.5 file which I have attached at the bottom of the thread, as this enabled the overclocking panel and applies some tweaks.
7. Next go to display properties, click on the settings tab, click advanced, click Geforce ????, click additional properties, make sure Antialiasing is disabled, under Direct3D set mipmap detail level to best performance, also make sure that only fig table emulation and adjust z-buffer are ticked, all the other should be unticked. Set the PCI texture memory size to minimum as AGP cards do not require this.
8. Now click on More Direct3D button, set texel alignment to 7, set vertical sync mode to always off and set render no more than 3 frames ahead.
9. Now select clock setting, and enable the overclocking feature, restart the machine.
10. Clock your card to it's highest known speed, bare in mind that core speed tends to give the biggest boost in 3D Mark 2001.
11. Also try downloading programmes like NVMAX, Getune and Rivatuner, as these can also offer some more tweaks for a boost.
12. Using one of the above apps or another similar utility, make sure you enable Side Band addressing as this can give around 250 more points in 3D Mark 2000, and a slight increase in 3D Mark 2001, I used Creatives AGP wizard, as I have a Creative VGA card.
13. I have also heard that if you load NVMAX, and set the LOD to 2, it can give a considerable boost, however I have not tried this tweak yet, but others have reported considerable gains. (It is my last trick left up my sleave for when some one betters my scores).
14. Also for 3D Mark 2000, if you go to testing options, click on change, tick the disable title screens, and set to run twice, this can also give a small boost in scores. For 3D Mark 2001, just run the test twice.


Expert Tweaks & what worked for me
1. Try to get your system running at the highest possible FSB, with your RAM timings on the best performance settings, by doing this your pushing your AGP slot faster (out of spec), but this offers great improvement in 3D Mark scores, be warned however that Nvidia cards struggle past 90Mhz AGP speed with AGP 4x, fast writes and Side Band Addressing all enabled.
2. Also try some extreme cooling on your graphics cards, as the cooler you get it, the further it will overclock.
3. When I was at 12950ish I had done all of the above tweaks nearly, the final tweak was side band adressing which jumped my score up to 13200 straight away. To get a further boost, I stuck a larger heatsink onto my GPU, which allowed me to clock the core to a whopping 312Mhz, which gives me the Worlds No.1 score of 13269.
I must note that I did not require to use NVMAX, Getune or Rivatuner, I did all of the listed tweaks above, and just enabled Side Band addressing to get my scores. Obviously I know my BIOS settings inside out. At 182Mhz FSB I used the following memory timings 16-8-7-2-2-2.5-2, this gives a score of 800 /1100 in Sisoft Sandra 2001 RAM bench.

I would like to thank Anti_Ps2, Marshy, Apocalypse, CryingFreeman and other users/websites for informing me of other tweaks that I have added to this guide.


By Gibbo
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Have fun, by the way, the 20.80 will give you a much better boost than 3%, do your homework.
 
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Althons and Pentiums are just melted rock. Who’s rock is better? Who cares, let’s play some games
 
Fugger, why don't you gio away and stop posting in this thread until you can actually post a link to your score? You're really a loudmouth. You haven't proved anything. You actually have to post your results. Stop being an idiot...

It's so simple. Stop making up excuses and post your score. Is it possible that you don't even own a P4?

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