[SOLVED] My 4670k is getting super warm...

[nikita2004piatrenka]

I recently bought a intel i5 4670k and i realized that it was very warm while gaming, max was around 83 C and minmum was somwhere around 73 C and this was with a be quiet Pure Rock Slim cooler on turbo. For comparison i have a diffrent pc with a ryzen 3 1200 and its overclocked at 3.8 Ghz with the stock cooler and it gets to 55 C while gaming. Cinebench gets even worse the i5 4670k goes between 80-95 degrees when doing a benchmark in cinebench, the ryzen goes between 55-61C. Could someone help me figure this out, i have no idea what could be causing this. I have seen people being able to overclock the i5 4670k to 5ghz and thats insane, when i can't even get good temps when playing games without a overclock.

 

[13thmonkey]

comparing the intel and the amd is pointless, and tells you nothing, so don't worry about that.

That cooler is a 120W cooler, it's an 84W part, but that is at base clocks at load I'd suspect more like 130W (which is what every 6th gen onwards 'k' is specced at)

 

[nikita2004piatrenka]

comparing the intel and the amd is pointless, and tells you nothing, so don't worry about that.

That cooler is a 120W cooler, it's an 84W part, but that is at base clocks at load I'd suspect more like 130W (which is what every 6th gen onwards 'k' is specced at)

So what you're saying is, that i need a better cooler with a higher TDP?

 

[geofelt]

If your temperature at idle is 73c, then it is likely that your cooler is not installed well or that your case is deficient in airflow.
A cooler at idle should show around 10-15c. over ambient.

 

[mitch074]

So what you're saying is, that i need a better cooler with a higher TDP?

It could also be that you're running the "performance" power profile, and that chip simply clocks at maximum - especially since the motherboard could have it running at boost speeds all the time (i.e. overclocked). If switching to a "balanced" power profile, setting the BIOS to use conservative frequencies and voltages and replacing the thermal paste doesn't help, a better cooler might. Remember though that this chip is 5 years old, and uses thermal paste under the heat spreader. I'd say it's a good candidate for delidding.

 

[CompuTronix]

nakita2004piatrenk,

Your Be Quiet Pure Rock Slim, like Intel's stock cooler, is a push-pin cooler. All push-pin coolers are problematic and should be avoided in favor of coolers that have proper fastening hardware with a back plate.

It's very likely that your Pure Rock Slim has popped a push-pin loose from the motherboard, which is a very common problem. This causes poor contact pressure between the cooler and the CPU, resulting in high temperatures in BIOS, as well as in Windows at idle, and especially at 100% workload.

You can troubleshoot this problem by pushing firmly on each corner of the cooler for about 30 seconds while watching your load temperatures. When you see a significant drop, you've found the loose push-pin.

The push-pins can be deceivingly tricky to get them fully inserted through the motherboard and properly latched.

(1) To re-seat a single loose push-pin, rotate the latch mechanism in the direction of the arrow counterclockwise 90° then retract the pin by pulling upward. Rotate the latch clockwise 90° to reset the pin, but do NOT push on the latch yet.

(2) To get the pin fully inserted through the motherboard, push only on the leg, NOT on the top of the latch.

(3) While holding the leg firmly against the motherboard with one hand, you can now push on the top of the latch with your other hand until the latch clicks.

(4) If you're re-seating the entire cooler, then be sure to latch the pins across from one another, rather than next to one another. Use an "X" pattern, so as to apply even pressure during installation.

Just to serve as a generic example to use on your Pure Rock Slim, here's a video for dealing with the push-pins on an Intel stock cooler Installation -

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qczGR4KMnY

CT

 

[geofelt]

----------------how to mount the stock Intel cooler--------------

The stock Intel cooler can be tricky to install.
A poor installation will result in higher cpu temperatures.
If properly mounted, you should expect temperatures at idle to be 10-15c. over ambient.

To mount the Intel stock cooler properly, place the motherboard on top of the foam or cardboard backing that was packed with the motherboard.
The stock cooler will come with paste pre applied, it looks like three grey strips.
The 4 push pins should come in the proper position for installation, that is with the pins rotated in the opposite direction of the arrow,(clockwise)
and pulled up as far as they can go.
Take the time to play with the pushpin mechanism until you know how they work.

Orient the 4 pins so that they are exactly over the motherboard holes.
If one is out of place, you will damage the pins which are delicate.
Push down on a DIAGONAL pair of pins at the same time. Then the other pair.

When you push down on the top black pins, it expands the white plastic pins to fix the cooler in place.

If you do them one at a time, you will not get the cooler on straight.
Lastly, look at the back of the motherboard to verify that all 4 pins are equally through the motherboard, and that the cooler is on firmly.
This last step must be done, which is why the motherboard should be out of the case to do the job. Or you need a case with a opening that lets you see the pins.
It is possible to mount the cooler with the motherboard mounted in the case, but you can then never be certain that the push pins are inserted properly
unless you can verify that the pins are through the motherboard and locked.

If you should need to remove the cooler, turn the pins counter clockwise to unlock them.
You will need to clean off the old paste and reapply new if you ever take the cooler off.
Clean off old paste with alcohol and a lint free paper like a coffee filter.
Apply new paste sparingly. A small rice sized drop in the center will spread our under heat and pressure.
Too much paste is bad, it will act as an insulator.
It is hard to use too little.

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