Question Need Help, Upgrading from an i7 4770k

N1njaDestr0yer

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Hello There, I am curious to know as the title says. I am looking to buy/build a newer "second" PC.... As technology advances I feel like a 4770k will not be able to keep up or play any newer games that get released without a FPS Config or tweaking the games to run potato mode graphics... Which I don't like when you use that. Reminds me of the old N64/PS1 graphics from that decade... looks terrible in any modern games

I am looking to buy/build this PC to last 2-6 years before upgrading (aka futureproofing). I was curious to know which of these CPUs any of them good?


But I am on a budget of $1000 to build/buy a PC that can serve for a backup PC, just in case my main PC goes down for X reasons, but I need access to a PC... and this would be a PC that I would fix/tweak using money from paychecks (Work)

i9 10900k (a little harder to find. For me atleast)

i9 9900k (best bugdet CPU, Dated yes)

or

i7 10700k (if the i9 doesn't work out)


I plan to use this PC for Gaming, Learning to Mod/Running Modded game titles, and Video Game Emulation...

I am aware of how the i9 9900k and the i7 10700k CPUs are almost simailar to each other (In terms of Cores + Threads both have 8 Cores + 16 Threads). But one CPU is older than the other....

Before anyone else asks, I planned on building a i7 12700k + 3070Ti PC too but the those etherium buttcoin miners, shot down my idea...

Any advice is greatly appreciated, Thanks

-N1nja
 
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Barty1884

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If you have a 4770K already (which I assume is where it comes into play?), then why not try it out and see.

4c/8t chips are still viable - and with an overclocked sku, you have some additional performance to eek out.

Don't get me wrong, it's not the 'best' CPU out there and going to allow you to run infinite mods etc, but you should be able to get near i3-10100 performance from it. Still no slouch.
 

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Something to consider/forgot to mention is I often have multiple tabs open or have some audio running and maybe discord (very rarely) in the background while gaming, that's kinda why I was aiming at the 10900k because of the extra cores + threads, sure it's expensive and older... while an i5 12600k can run circles around a 10900k while being half the cost of the i9.

I was originally aiming for an i9 9900k, since that CPU is tied with a i7 10700k in terms of core + thread count but the 9900k is older and I get it most of the Z390 Motherboards weren't built with good VRM's and a 12400/12600k will run circles around that CPU (9900k) too.

I always thought i7s and or i9s were better for multitasking with audio in the background, I never thought an i5 could match i7 or trample an i9.... In terms of performance and longevity and price...
 
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Barty1884

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Something to consider/forgot to mention is I often have multiple tabs open or have some audio running and maybe discord (very rarely) in the background while gaming,
But you do have a 4770K right now? What's stopping you testing the theory rather than guessing?

I always thought i7s and or i9s were better for multitasking with audio in the background, I never thought an i5 could match i7 or trample an i9.... In terms of performance and longevity and price...
Many still operate with this perception. There was a time this was true, i7 > i5 > i3 etc, but now there is a lot of overlap.
Todays i5's jumping off point is better than an i7-8700K/808K at 6c/12t without factoring in IPC gains and the 'e' cores.

Realistically, background, lower priority tasks will be handled (at least in part) by the e-cores anyway. A dedicated 6c/12t "performance" chip, essentially for gaming etc. An i5-12600K is a smarter move for longevity purposes (with the p/e setup) compared to a 9th or 10th Gen i9/i7... IMO.
 

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Yes, but I don't have a GPU installed in the PC, the last one failed due to poor build quality (Gigabyte RX 590) AMD
You don't have a GPU at all? Even if it meant moving a GPU over and a bit of an inconvenience, I would recommend doing so.

If you don't have one at all and need to budget for both, then fair enough.
If that's the case, 12600K gets my vote.
 

N1njaDestr0yer

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i5 12600K is probably the way to go

I guess I'm 50/50 I still don't want to admit that an i5 can outpace an i7 or even i9, But with the way the current technology is evolving I guess an i5 (12th Gen) would be the way to go....
Also how expensive would a Z590 PC cost? That includes an i9 10900k + Cooler + Motherboard and RAM? Cause I am just not ready to commit to an i5 "Gaming" PC also how long can a i5 12600k last?
 
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N1njaDestr0yer

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You don't have a GPU at all? No I still have the GPU it just doesn't work anymore started showing problems which send to it's demise. Was having VRM Issues and not responding when being turned back on from being shut off, I've tried DDU several times but just failed...

GPU itself

Gigabyte AMD 590 8GB,
Problem, Started having issues with the Drivers, Anytime I shut down the PC, and turn in on after X amount of time, boots like normal, but the drivers are nowhere to be seen, uninstalled somehow, also no amount of DDU can fix this GPU, I suspect faulty construction of this GPU VRAM is bad? IDK?

I can still use the GPU, but no dual displays and the missing drivers and the Bad coloring possibly due to bad VRMs,
 

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I have been curious as to see if an AIO would help a i7 12700k to be cooler and perform better than traditional Air Coolers and which brand/manufacturers would work best?? And where would Iook into buying it? Amazon? or Bestbuy?
 

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