Question Need Help With Liquid Metal

[Nero1024]

I want to use liquid metal on NVME SSD between chips and copper heatsink. Is it safe?

 

[kanewolf]

Do you know you have a thermal problem with your SSD?

 

[1LiquidPC]

Wouldn't recommend it. What seems to be the problem?

 

[Nero1024]

Do you know you have a thermal problem with your SSD?

62 °C on second sensor without doing much on SSD seems like a bad temperature. I want to drop it to as low as possible

 

[Nero1024]

Wouldn't recommend it. What seems to be the problem?

Why not? Problem is that I want to extend lifetime of my SSD to maximum value and be worry free about throttling ever

 

[kanewolf]

62 °C on second sensor without doing much on SSD seems like a bad temperature. I want to drop it to as low as possible

Unless it is thermal throttling, I wouldn't worry about it.

Liquid metal would require a pressure force to keep the heatsink attached. Would you have that or do you need a thermal pad type substance to secure as well as transfer heat?

 

[Nero1024]

Unless it is thermal throttling, I wouldn't worry about it.

Liquid metal would require a pressure force to keep the heatsink attached. Would you have that or do you need a thermal pad type substance to secure as well as transfer heat?

I will use tight, heat resistant rubber bands for that)))

 

[kanewolf]

I will use tight, heat resistant rubber bands for that)))

There are a lot of things with voltages on an SSD. I would not use a conductive thermal compound. There are lots of good non-conductive thermal compounds. Why risk it for a few deg C?

 

[1LiquidPC]

Some components on these NVMe actually degrade less from higher temps. GamerNexus had a story about it awhile back I believe. The aftermarket heatsinks can attribute to this. I'm doubtful the service life would be impacted much by those temps.

 

[Nero1024]

There are a lot of things with voltages on an SSD. I would not use a conductive thermal compound. There are lots of good non-conductive thermal compounds. Why risk it for a few deg C?

I think nail polish would solve that problem. Or am I wrong?

 

[kanewolf]

I think nail polish would solve that problem. Or am I wrong?

I have no idea. It sounds like you have your mind made up that you have the best approach, so all I can say is good luck.

 

[Nero1024]

Some components on these NVMe actually degrade less from higher temps. GamerNexus had a story about it awhile back I believe. The aftermarket heatsinks can attribute to this. I'm doubtful the service life would be impacted much by those temps.

Yeah, I saw that video, but GamerNexus seems to be the only one who said that. Also, which exact component and what is considered warm for this component?

 

[Nero1024]

I have no idea. It sounds like you have your mind made up that you have the best approach, so all I can say is good luck.

Which material is used for chips outer layer? I think it's not conductive, right?

 

[USAFRet]

Which material is used for chips outer layer? I think it's not conductive, right?

And when a teeny bit of that liquid metal oozes out onto the rest of the SSD?

 

[Nero1024]

And when a teeny bit of that liquid metal oozes out onto the rest of the SSD?

You didn't answer the question on my reply

 

[Nero1024]

So, waffers are conductive or not?

 

[USAFRet]

You didn't answer the question on my reply

Yes, the outer layer is (I believe) non conductive.
And my question still stands...what happens when some leaks out?

 

[USAFRet]

You're wanting to use a substance not meant for this application, on a device that does not need it, to solve a problem that does not exist.

 

[Nero1024]

Yes, the outer layer is (I believe) non conductive.
And my question still stands...what happens when some leaks out?

You are saying like it WILL happen. It won't

 

[USAFRet]

You are saying like it WILL happen. It won't

Good luck.

 

[Nero1024]

You're wanting to use a substance not meant for this application, on a device that does not need it, to solve a problem that does not exist.

That's subjective. I just want maximum efficiency out of what I have

 

[USAFRet]

That's subjective

"62 °C on second sensor without doing much on SSD seems like a bad temperature. "
..is also 'subjective'.

 

[Nero1024]

Good luck.

Thanks))

 

[Nero1024]

"62 °C on second sensor without doing much on SSD seems like a bad temperature. "
..is also 'subjective'.

Every chip made benefits from lower temperatures, and it's objective

 

[Karadjgne]

Point of diminishing returns. With a cpu it's @ 70°C. Under that temp, there's zero benefit to a cooler running chip.

And no, you are making a basic mistake. There's more than 1 temp going on in any chip. Surface temps affect core temps, depending on the level of cooling, but the two are not the same. Even with extreme measures like LN2 thats -196°C, the cpu is still running 30-70°C core temps, the liquid nitrogen doing nothing but absorbing excess heat from the workload and speeds.

A cpu at 40°C will last just as long as if that same cpu spent its entire life at 60°C. Having the lowest possible temp is just as much a falicy as having the highest possible fps, once you pass the point of diminishing returns, it's pointless.