Build Advice New build project planned -- help please ?

[TannerH96]

I'm looking to build a high quality gaming PC that can handle live streaming. I haven't purchased anything yet, i'm just doing a lot of research and i'd like to get your thoughts on the parts below and what i can improve on/if anything is overkill.

I'm located in United States, i'd like to stay under 2K for my budget. I don't have any preferred websites for purchasing parts as this is my 1st PC build and i'm quite new to this.

https://newegg.io/e1162737

Thank you in advance!

CPU: Intel i7-13700K
GPU: RTX 4070 12 GB
Power Supply: CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM850x CP-9020200-NA 850 W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply
SSD: Samsung 1TB
CPU cooler: DeepCool AK620
Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6400 Desktop Memory Model F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE AX LGA 1700 Intel Z790 ATX Motherboard with DDR5, Quad M.2, PCIe 5.0, USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C, Intel WiFi 6E, 2.5GbE LAN, Q-Flash Plus, PCIe EZ-Latch

Approximate Purchase Date: as soon as possible!

Budget Range: prefer to stay under 2K

System Usage from Most to Least Important: mostly for gaming and livestreaming but i'd like to use it for my online biz as well which involves lots of excel and large files.

Are you buying a monitor: I didn't plan on buying one.



Parts to Upgrade: everything, i have no parts. fresh build.

Do you need to buy OS: yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com is what i know, not familiar with other part sites

Location: United States

Parts Preferences: no preference, just want the best parts possible for my budget.

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: i'd prefer something is quiet but not required.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I'm tired of console gaming, i'd like to get into PC gaming and i haven't had a good build ever.

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

You might want to stylize your thread with info asked of in this thread;

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

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From your build listed above, you should also include a PCPartPicker link in order for the community to easily swap over parts or spot any other glaring issues in your build.

You should also include where you're located, what your preferred site for purchase is and your budget for the build to act as stipulations for said build.

 

[Why_Me]

I'm looking to build a high quality gaming PC that can handle live streaming. I haven't purchased anything yet, i'm just doing a lot of research and i'd like to get your thoughts on the parts below and what i can improve on/if anything is overkill.

Thank you in advance!

CPU: Intel i7-13700K
GPU: RTX 4070 12 GB
Power Supply: CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM850x CP-9020200-NA 850 W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply
SSD: Samsung 1TB
CPU cooler: DeepCool AK620
Memory: G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6400 Desktop Memory Model F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK
Motherboard: GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE AX LGA 1700 Intel Z790 ATX Motherboard with DDR5, Quad M.2, PCIe 5.0, USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C, Intel WiFi 6E, 2.5GbE LAN, Q-Flash Plus, PCIe EZ-Latch

You want a ATX 3.0 psu for these RTX 40XX cards due to the adapter, that dual tower cpu cooler won't clear that RGB RAM due to height issues, larger SSD, etc ... What country are you located, what is your budget and what is your monitor resolution?

 

[TannerH96]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

You might want to stylize your thread with info asked of in this thread;

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

forums.tomshardware.com

From your build listed above, you should also include a PCPartPicker link in order for the community to easily swap over parts or spot any other glaring issues in your build.

You should also include where you're located, what your preferred site for purchase is and your budget for the build to act as stipulations for said build.

Okay i'll check that out. I appreciate the help!

 

[TannerH96]

You want a ATX 3.0 psu for these RTX 40XX cards due to the adapter, that dual tower cpu cooler won't clear that RGB RAM due to height issues, larger SSD, etc ... What country are you located, what is your budget and what is your monitor resolution?

I appreciate the help!

2K budget and i'm located in the US. my current monitors resolution is 1920x1080 but i'll likely buy a new monitor in the future.

 

[Why_Me]

NVIDIA NVENC Obs Guide

Configure OBS to get the most quality out of your stream.

www.nvidia.com

The 120mm fan goes inside the back of this case for a exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700KF 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($303.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.97 @ B&H)
Video Card: *Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ Newegg)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($8.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: *Gigabyte GS27Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1900.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-12 23:19 EDT-0400

A better look at those components.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/GS27Q#kf

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-Z790-TOMAHAWK-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-review

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N407TSEAGLE-OC-16GD#kf

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4162

https://www.arctic.de/us/P12-PWM-PST/ACFAN00120A

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4

 

[TannerH96]

NVIDIA NVENC Obs Guide

Configure OBS to get the most quality out of your stream.

www.nvidia.com

The 120mm fan goes inside the back of this case for a exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700KF 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($303.49 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *ID-COOLING FROZN A720 BLACK 98.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Silicon Power UD90 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.97 @ B&H)
Video Card: *Gigabyte EAGLE OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ Newegg)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.90 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($8.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: *Gigabyte GS27Q 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1934.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-12 18:35 EDT-0400

A better look at those components.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/GS27Q#kf

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-Z790-TOMAHAWK-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-40-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.idcooling.com/Product/detail/id/441/name/FROZN A720 BLACK

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/id-cooling-frozn-a720-and-a620-review

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N407TSEAGLE-OC-16GD#kf

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4162

https://www.arctic.de/us/P12-PWM-PST/ACFAN00120A

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/focus/focus-2/black-tg-clear-tint/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG4vFQbDn4

This will be able to play all games like apex, call of duty, etc, while being able to livestream? Anything else i'd need to put everything together once i receive all parts?

Thank you for taking the time to help!

 

[Why_Me]

This will be able to play all games like apex, call of duty, etc, while being able to livestream? Anything else i'd need to put everything together once i receive all parts?

Thank you for taking the time to help!

Yes and yes and no you won't need anything else other than Windows 11 Home.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

For the cooler look at the Thermalright coolers like the peerless assassin I think they’ve good another called the phantom spirit. I’ve got the peerless assassin on my 12600kf and am very happy with it.

 

[TannerH96]

Yes and yes and no you won't need anything else other than Windows 11 Home.

Is there anything on that build you'd upgrade down the line or something that cost slightly more right now but improves performance significantly or is that best bang for my buck?

Thanks again.

 

[Why_Me]

Is there anything on that build you'd upgrade down the line or something that cost slightly more right now but improves performance significantly or is that best bang for my buck?

Thanks again.

Nothing I can think of.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

for a brand new system, i would suggest AM5:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($37.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650E PG RIPTIDE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-850 ATX 3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: MSI G274QPF-QD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor ($199.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1895.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-13 16:42 EDT-0400

 

[TannerH96]

for a brand new system, i would suggest AM5:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($37.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650E PG RIPTIDE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-850 ATX 3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: MSI G274QPF-QD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor ($199.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1895.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-13 16:42 EDT-0400

I'm going to do more research on these parts! what entices you about this build? Where would this be better/worse compared to the part list why_me sent above? Could this build handle streaming + gaming at same time?

Thank you for your time and help!

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The 7800X3D is the current gaming cpu king.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

If you are worried about more cores for streaming:

7900X3D - $404 - https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XccgXL/amd-ryzen-9-7900x3d-44-ghz-12-core-processor-100-100000909wof

AM5 is an upgradable platform. You can upgrade to the next 2 generations of CPUs, if it's like AM4. That's almost 5 years platform support for next gen CPUs.

The z790 mobo will not support 15th gen intel cpu. You would have to replace the Motherboard along with the cpu.

The gaming performance lags behind 7800X3D / 7900X3D.

7900X3D can handle all the gaming and streaming tasks you throw at it.

 

[TannerH96]

The 7800X3D is the current gaming cpu king.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

If you are worried about more cores for streaming:

7900X3D - £393 - https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...x3d-44-ghz-12-core-processor-100-100000909wof

AM5 is an upgradable platform. You can upgrade to the next 2 generations of CPUs, if it's like AM4. That's almost 5 years platform support for next gen cpu.

The z790 mobo will not support 15th gen intel cpu. You would have to replace the Motherboard along with the cpu.

The gaming performance lags behind 7800X3D / 7900X3D.

7900X3D can handle all the gaming and streaming tasks you throw at it.

If i decided to buy the 7900X3D instead of the 7800X3D, would i need to change any other parts on that parts list you sent yesterday?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

If i decided to buy the 7900X3D instead of the 7800X3D, would i need to change any other parts on that parts list you sent yesterday?

Nope. All the parts are compatible.

 

[TannerH96]

Nope. All the parts are compatible.

do i need to worry about bottlenecking?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

do i need to worry about bottlenecking?

The cpu is the best that you can get.

The GPU is not too bad either:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

more than 120 fps in 1440p ultra settings. If you enable DLSS 3 and G sync, the experience should be smooth.

 

[TannerH96]

The cpu is the best that you can get.

The GPU is not too bad either:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

more than 120 fps in 1440p ultra settings. If you enable DLSS 3 and G sync, the experience should be smooth.

Sounds good, thank you.

For windows 11, will this do the trick? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hMYmP6/microsoft-windows-11-home-retail-usb-64-bit-haj-00108 -- I realized i had the DVD version and switched to USB.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^ Yup, should work.

 

[helper800]

Sounds good, thank you.

For windows 11, will this do the trick? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hMYmP6/microsoft-windows-11-home-retail-usb-64-bit-haj-00108 -- I realized i had the DVD version and switched to USB.

With the 7900X3D it can have inconsistent performance because only 6 of the cores have the 3D v-cache. @Lucky_SLS have they gotten down the thread scheduling for games with the two CCD X3D chips? This is my only concern for the OP's build. He may be better served with the 7800X3D in his use case.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

With the 7900X3D it can have inconsistent performance because only 6 of the cores have the 3D v-cache. @Lucky_SLS have they gotten down the thread scheduling for games with the two CCD X3D chips? This is my only concern for the OP's build. He may be better served with the 7800X3D in his use case.

AMD released its AMD PPM Provisioning Driver for ryzen 9 CPUs to address this exact issue. This was a known issue and they rectified it.

 

[helper800]

AMD released its AMD PPM Provisioning Driver for ryzen 9 CPUs to address this exact issue. This was a known issue and they rectified it.

For sure, I did not see any articles on such a fix, thanks for letting me know. You really can get the best of both worlds now!

 

[TannerH96]

for a brand new system, i would suggest AM5:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($279.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($37.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650E PG RIPTIDE WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($123.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($799.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-850 ATX 3.0 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: MSI G274QPF-QD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz Monitor ($199.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $1895.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-13 16:42 EDT-0400

I'm going to start building later today once all the parts arrive. do you recommend any videos to help the building process go smooth? never done this before so don't want to mess anything up.

Thank you

 

[helper800]

I'm going to start building later today once all the parts arrive. do you recommend any videos to help the building process go smooth? never done this before so don't want to mess anything up.

Thank you

If you get stuck we are always here! Typically never 'force' anything together. Here is an exhaustive guide video. Make sure that you look up separate videos for the specific parts you are going to be installing like how to install an AMD 7000 CPU with your specific cooler. Typically there are decently made guides that come with individual parts as well!