They are funny. The Microsoft one's are funny too. As someone who develops for Apple and Microsoft (yes, that is possible) and beta tests Microsoft software I just have to laugh every time I see these commercials. Both platforms really have their perks if you have the opportunity I would get both. I have both right now and I couldn't ever go back to being a fanboy of either.
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[citation][nom]StevensJobzy[/nom]Sounds like the macheads are guilty of their own accusations. sounds to me that these fanboyeeeees have been using mac too long that they have no idea how windows works, but they just have to bust out a commercial to make those college kids proud of walking around with their super cool laptops. Whats worse? Buying a new peripheral and sometimes having to install a driver or buying a new peripheral only to find out that you absolutely cant even use it because no such driver even exists? Once again, a really weak point by mac.[/citation]
Hmm actually to the contrary, I'm pretty sure most Mac users use windows pc's very often (I use both mac and pc every day) while most PC users don't use macs more then once in two months if that much...
You are correct about the driver but if you noticed when something has a mac logo or is mac brand it just works... If something that the windows logo means it work in a version of windows... So for example, when I upgraded my media center to vista x64 but the creators of the NVTV decided that they just don't wanna even make a vista driver and not to mention since i'm running x64 your chances are even slimmer...
Hmm actually to the contrary, I'm pretty sure most Mac users use windows pc's very often (I use both mac and pc every day) while most PC users don't use macs more then once in two months if that much...
You are correct about the driver but if you noticed when something has a mac logo or is mac brand it just works... If something that the windows logo means it work in a version of windows... So for example, when I upgraded my media center to vista x64 but the creators of the NVTV decided that they just don't wanna even make a vista driver and not to mention since i'm running x64 your chances are even slimmer...
The Apple ads are entirely correct in their assessment of Windows PCs that most people buy. One part of me hopes people keep buying PCs so I can make money fixing them up regularly after something bad happens to the software (about every 6 months usually).
Of course a lot of readers here build their own and don't click on every stupid link to infect their machines with the crap that many Windows users seem to want. But then the Apple ads aren't aimed at the computer-savvy. They go after the large unwashed masses who want something that just works.
For myself, I use Linux. I see no reason to lock myself into an outdated (XP) or bloated (Vista) proprietary OS or proprietary hardware.
Of course a lot of readers here build their own and don't click on every stupid link to infect their machines with the crap that many Windows users seem to want. But then the Apple ads aren't aimed at the computer-savvy. They go after the large unwashed masses who want something that just works.
For myself, I use Linux. I see no reason to lock myself into an outdated (XP) or bloated (Vista) proprietary OS or proprietary hardware.
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Apple whines about how Microsoft uses their marketing dollars, yet what is Apple doing in response? Putting on a large marketing campaign. Lame.
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[citation][nom]aalkema[/nom]I fix everyone's computers in my dorm at university. About 2/3 of the people have PC's and the rest have Macs (two people have Linux). I spend most of my time fixing PC's, but it's almost always a printer driver, or something like that. The people with Mac's rarely need help. I hate Mac's with a firey passion, I've always only used Windows, and never had a problem. But for the common arts student out there... it always seems Mac is the better choice. It all comes down to personal opinions. Speaking of Microsoft commercials though, I love the one where the 8 year old kid makes a movie about 'mr teeth'.[/citation]
Well thanks for the honest unbiased opinion, it's hard to find on these forums...
I use both and it's annoying seeing people talk about something they don't know a thing about.
Well thanks for the honest unbiased opinion, it's hard to find on these forums...
I use both and it's annoying seeing people talk about something they don't know a thing about.
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I thought it was funny as hell, but I'm still not gonna buy a Mac 😀. The Mac commercials amuse me, but the truth is that PCs are generally easier for people to use only because they are use to them. As far as having to learn how to use a new OS, OSX isn't really too much more intuitive than Windows, or a polished Linux Distro. Mac elitists are pretty much the only ones who seem to think they are easier to learn. Of course there really are some people whom I would prefer to use a less intuitive Linux Version just so there's less of a chance for them to mess it up ^_^.
I'm getting a little tired of defending apple, however in my comment after this one I'm going to go to town on the truths for the disclaimer (in the commercial) for both pc's and apple.
For now thou here are some truths:
-When a major new apple revision comes out it is usually the same price if not cheaper than a dell counter-part.
-When a minor revision comes out it is usually around the same price, or be slightly more expensive than a dell.
-Just before a new revision comes out, when the apple technology is dated by a few months if not many months, the mac is usually a hundred or two or three more expensive than the equivalent dell.
-If you guys more ram or a larger hdd or whatever when building an apple computer on their site... you are basically just donating money to apple. It's like theaters selling soda for $5 to make up for their very small margins on ticket sales, except apples small margins are with their entry level machines.
-Driver support is basically guaranteed with an apple computer for both mac os x and windows. It takes a lot of research to be 99% sure you're computer parts will have perfectly working drivers.
-macbooks can have their memory, hdd, and battery replaced, and have very good instructions on how to replace them (both online and on the inside of the case on the battery door =P). This is usually the same for other laptops, unless you get a specific laptop, like my old z7100.
-mac os x has fusion. Windows has nothing.
-it is rarely an option to buy the best video or processor solution for a mac.
-It is much cheaper and their are many more options in building a PC.
-windows does not come standard with equivilent software to imovie, idvd, and garageband. I'm sorry... movie maker sucks compared to imovie. That is an unbiased comparison. It just doesn't compare.
-Most useful generic applications and os tools you can find for windows you can find for mac os x. More things you can find for mac os x can be found for windows. (when I say generic I mean a registry cleaner, or disk defrager makes little sense for mac os x which leads me to my next point)
-Case Insensitive and lack of full character support for the file system under windows. NTFS its self supports case sensitivity, but windows is retarded and doesn't.
-Windows can not read ext3 or ext4 file system formats.
-Windows and workgroups are retarded, and require configuring to get every computer to see each other, and as my above point mentions, excluding linux. My macbook can see every computer and xbox on the network in comparison.
That's all I got for now. Those are all hard facts about the 2 setups.
For now thou here are some truths:
-When a major new apple revision comes out it is usually the same price if not cheaper than a dell counter-part.
-When a minor revision comes out it is usually around the same price, or be slightly more expensive than a dell.
-Just before a new revision comes out, when the apple technology is dated by a few months if not many months, the mac is usually a hundred or two or three more expensive than the equivalent dell.
-If you guys more ram or a larger hdd or whatever when building an apple computer on their site... you are basically just donating money to apple. It's like theaters selling soda for $5 to make up for their very small margins on ticket sales, except apples small margins are with their entry level machines.
-Driver support is basically guaranteed with an apple computer for both mac os x and windows. It takes a lot of research to be 99% sure you're computer parts will have perfectly working drivers.
-macbooks can have their memory, hdd, and battery replaced, and have very good instructions on how to replace them (both online and on the inside of the case on the battery door =P). This is usually the same for other laptops, unless you get a specific laptop, like my old z7100.
-mac os x has fusion. Windows has nothing.
-it is rarely an option to buy the best video or processor solution for a mac.
-It is much cheaper and their are many more options in building a PC.
-windows does not come standard with equivilent software to imovie, idvd, and garageband. I'm sorry... movie maker sucks compared to imovie. That is an unbiased comparison. It just doesn't compare.
-Most useful generic applications and os tools you can find for windows you can find for mac os x. More things you can find for mac os x can be found for windows. (when I say generic I mean a registry cleaner, or disk defrager makes little sense for mac os x which leads me to my next point)
-Case Insensitive and lack of full character support for the file system under windows. NTFS its self supports case sensitivity, but windows is retarded and doesn't.
-Windows can not read ext3 or ext4 file system formats.
-Windows and workgroups are retarded, and require configuring to get every computer to see each other, and as my above point mentions, excluding linux. My macbook can see every computer and xbox on the network in comparison.
That's all I got for now. Those are all hard facts about the 2 setups.
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[citation][nom]JimmiG[/nom]The most stupid one so far was when Apple released an ad, complaining about Microsoft spending too much money on ads. [/citation]
Yeah...this wasn't exactly the pot calling the kettle black.
More like a shadow on a chunk of obsidian inside a black hole calling something else black.
The percentage of revenue that apple spends on advertising simply dwarfs many other companies. A lot of apple tax comes from that facet alone. However it has the effect that owners kind of feel extra warm and fuzzy...like a mascot on TV reaffirming that you are still cool and svelte for owning a mac.
Its part of their business model and all things considered its worked pretty well for the last few years in general. But trying to rag on MS for advertising? Might as well bend a pike into a circle and stab your own rear.
At the end of the day, brand recognition is a lot like politics. Its a mixture of truth, fantasy and outright lies presented in manners to make people believe in you and you alone.
Expecting intelligent, honest tactics to be employed is naive.
Yeah...this wasn't exactly the pot calling the kettle black.
More like a shadow on a chunk of obsidian inside a black hole calling something else black.
The percentage of revenue that apple spends on advertising simply dwarfs many other companies. A lot of apple tax comes from that facet alone. However it has the effect that owners kind of feel extra warm and fuzzy...like a mascot on TV reaffirming that you are still cool and svelte for owning a mac.
Its part of their business model and all things considered its worked pretty well for the last few years in general. But trying to rag on MS for advertising? Might as well bend a pike into a circle and stab your own rear.
At the end of the day, brand recognition is a lot like politics. Its a mixture of truth, fantasy and outright lies presented in manners to make people believe in you and you alone.
Expecting intelligent, honest tactics to be employed is naive.
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Ahh these ads still make me laugh. I love windows when it comes to gaming/having a great desktop pc but if i want a laptop that isn't necessarily for gaming im going to go with apple.. i love how you can customize pc's but when your stuck with a laptop and don't want to DIY apples laptops are in general better quality (software / design wise ) which is want i would want in a laptop, not to mention alot of battery life.
[citation][nom]JimmiG[/nom] ... and why do most Apple ads spend more time talking about PCs and Windows than Macs and OSX? If OSX is so great, it should be possible to market it on its own merits.[/citation]
That's what I've been wondering! I honestly haven't had much exposure to Macs, why don't they show me what's so great about them in their commercials? Who knows, I might even be impressed. I've never been impressed with their "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" commercials.
That's what I've been wondering! I honestly haven't had much exposure to Macs, why don't they show me what's so great about them in their commercials? Who knows, I might even be impressed. I've never been impressed with their "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" commercials.
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I support both in my work I would say that Mac's are just as problematic, if not more so than Windows PC's. Mac's are more difficult to configure in certain areas and require just as much updating. I centrally manage the updating of the Windows PC's but have no such ability with Mac's. A lot of download gets wasted with the Mac updates.
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What everybody seems to forget is that Apple is just another boutique computer reseller just like Alienware, Sager, or w/e. I could go on for ages. Some people will pay extra to have everything packaged all pretty and for services like repair gaurantee etc. etc. Macs are more expensive than their pc counterparts on a typical basis because Dell actually gives the customer the option to opt out of 3 year warranty plus accidental damage protection plus free tech support. I've priced out PCs and Macs before, and you will find a difference. Yes Macs are more expensive, any one saying otherwise frankly can ask my email address and I can give them a better laptop or computer for less.
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Once again, the "article writer" aka blogger interjects their own fanatasism and opinions. This isn't Colbert. Can we get the facts for ONCE? ONLY the facts??!!!
I say YOU are childish to go putting such a stupid headline up so you can get webpage hits.
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I really hope that Tom's didn't think that just because you're female people won't chastise you for stupid headlines. I like you Jane. We've even chatted a bit via email. But I hate sensationalism. I want FACTS and NEWS. Not OPINIONS, unless the column is STATED AS SUCH.
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most of those are styling elements
this is tech site man if you want something that looks good buy some sculpture
i go with performance
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There ads are so childish, especially in light of microsofts recent ads that were actually pretty good, and just to piss of apple im going to go jail break my Itouch now.
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I disagree, those are technological features. Most of them perform an active task in my day to day computing experience. The unbody enclosure plays an important role as a heatsink, and a darn good one. A scratch free screen could be considered stylish, but I can certanly see a functiom there.
I disagree, those are technological features. Most of them perform an active task in my day to day computing experience. The unbody enclosure plays an important role as a heatsink, and a darn good one. A scratch free screen could be considered stylish, but I can certanly see a functiom there.
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