Build Advice New PC Advice

[Greatham]

Hello all,

First of all, thanks for any feedback =]
Currently wanting to have a good upgrade on my pc, some of my pc parts are reusable.
This is for a gaming build am not an overly hard core gamer however I would like to build a PC that will last me a few years without requiring updates,

What I am thinking:

Motherboard: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Z390-AORUS...TER+9th&qid=1558337229&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr0
Cost: 260.99
CPU: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX80684I78700-Core-i7-8700-Processor/dp/B07598HLB4/ref=sr_1_13?keywords=cpu+socket+1151&qid=1558018119&s=gateway&sr=8-13&th=1
Cost: 275.85
SSD: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07PM347GV/ref=sspa_dk_detail_7?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07PM347GV
Going for NVMe, Cost: 127.44
RAM: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Viper-Stee...s=DDR4-4400&qid=1558341228&s=computers&sr=1-1
Cost: 129.59 (maybe get 16gb instead of 8)

I have not yet decided on a case however I am looking to buy one with good cable management,

From my current PC I have a PSU which is 750w,
My Graphics card is https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb...mhz-gddr5-gpu-1140mhz-boost-1279mhz-cores-166
Normal SSD and a few HDD

I am aware with this build my graphics card is a bit rubbish and outdated, I will probably update this later in the year. or if I see my graphics card is clearly holding the PC back.

I have 2 questions,
If I put my budget to say 1k....
Does my above build seem good enough? or is there any changes you would recommend? (better equipment for a slightly more money)
I was debating putting a better cooling system in the computer, however not sure if it will make a massive difference?

Thanks again for any advice given,
G

 

[iMatty]

Well if you'll pair a 970gtx with i7-8700 you'll probably have some kind of a bottleneck in GPU intensive games.
You could go with a cheaper motherboard instead of paying all that and go for a better gpu?
What is the make and model of your psu and how many years have it been used?

 

[Greatham]

Well if you'll pair a 970gtx with i7-8700 you'll probably have some kind of a bottleneck in GPU intensive games.
You could go with a cheaper motherboard instead of paying all that and go for a better gpu?
What is the make and model of your psu and how many years have it been used?

Thanks for the reply,
I was thinking if I get the rest of my kit sorted then after a month or two more of saving I will get a new GPU, so i wont be without a good gpu for a long time

My PSU is worse than I thought, 650w and is 9 year old. (now thinking I might have to upgrade that as well...)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000X24ISU/?tag=20001a-20

 

[ElectrO_90]

I'd go down the AMD route, save money and keeps performance great
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£130.97 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler (£54.40 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (£89.98 @ AWD-IT)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£84.98 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£102.98 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£45.89 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case (£58.97 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£72.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £641.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-20 12:35 BST+0100

 

[iMatty]

I would recommend to upgrade it as well yeah, and you could go with the kit for now then save up for a better GPU yeah.

 

[Greatham]

Thanks both for the replies =]
As it seems my current pc is worse than I expected I guess i'll look at a new build,

CPU
Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor £273.00

CPU Cooler
Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler £25.23

Motherboard
Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS MASTER ATX LGA1151 Motherboard £251.99

Memory
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £70.19

Storage
Western Digital - Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £113.96

Video Card
Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB AORUS XTREME Video Card £389.99

Case
Phanteks - ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case £58.97

Power Supply
EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £118.97

Total: £1306.28

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TDsnP3

Id be happy spending between 1500 and 2000 on this so will be happy upgrading anything if you feel I can do better with some of them,

I could be wrong as I've always gone for Intel, I understand AMD are cheaper but am I correct at thinking Intel usualy is better?
Thanks again for any suggestions

 

[ElectrO_90]

You probably haven't read a CPU review for 3+ years. AMD win win win in most things now.
Ryzen's rule the roost in most things for a price comparison.
But lose in some games at 1080p but at 1440p or better as good
For non gaming software, Ryzen normally wins because more cores and more threads

Also this is not good for Intel
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-amd-mitigations-performance-impact,39381.html

 

[ScrewySqrl]

Ryzen is indeed your best bang-for-buck right now (and superior at multitasking)

and in any case, an 8700 is old, you should be using the 9700 instead of the 8700

 

[iMatty]

8700 isn't old? its legit 8th gen still up there in CPU's, plus not all ryzen CPU's are better in multitasking, only different between both of them is gens and probably some cores and threads.
Is the OP has the money to buy the 8700k its a really good option for gaming and such.
Plus the 8700k has more threads than the 9700k which makes it better for demanding games.

 

[ElectrO_90]

8700 isn't old? its legit 8th gen still up there in CPU's, plus not all ryzen CPU's are better in multitasking, only different between both of them is gens and probably some cores and threads.
Is the OP has the money to buy the 8700k its a really good option for gaming and such.

He was going to by the 8700, plus Intel already superseded it with 9th gen and are about to push out their 10th gen.... because Intel loves to keep re-releasing same shit, with not much improvement, then change the motherboard every 2 gens. Remember the 7th gen lasted only 9 months before the 8th gen was released. Which again needed a new motherboard. Even though technically you don't, they make it so you have to upgrade and upgrade

 

[iMatty]

Well if i had a 8700k CPU i wouldn't want to change my CPU neither motherboard for another few years, upgrading each year is not suited for everyone some of them has the cash to spend so they do it.
I have had my i5-4960k for a month so far, had a 4460 but bought that one from a friend, and i dont think i'll be replacing anything anytime near.
8700K should be more than enough for like 3 or so years.

 

[SgtScream]

With Ryzen third gen right around the corner, we are looking to see 8 core 16 threads as mid range processors. I would advise against purchasing the i7 8700k because 6 core 12 threads is basically a hyper-threaded i5. You'll essentially pay extra money for a 6 core processor right before a new line of Ryzen processors are released.

 

[iMatty]

Well you never know if that ryzen processor will be cheap enough for people like OP to buy it or not.
And if he is on a hurry the 8700k is a good option.
If the rumors were to be true i wouldn't give it a price lower than 400$ or something around that.

 

[Greatham]

Thanks, Interesting regarding CPUS, it has never been my strong point, either way tho, no matter what one I go for it seems there may be a new gen coming out for either, as mentioned they release cpus every few months so am never going to have the best cpu out there,
I was debating getting an i9 however a decent one does add an extra 200 quid (Which is doable in my current situation) I just dont if it is worth the extra or not?