Nvidia CEO: Apple Uses the Best Technology

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[citation][nom]Glorian[/nom]Best technology huh? then tell me why when I was pricing gaming laptops between alienware vs apple, granted for two different laptops with the same cpu/ram/ssd I was supprised they were priced within 50 bucks...EXCEPT the apple comes with a 9600m gt graphics and the alienware comes with crossfired 4870's?! for 50 bucks less!I know its alienware/dell but i used it to prove a point.[/citation]

oh god don't buy a laptop form either company. sagernotebook.com
 
the first batch of defective nvidia 8600m GT's are still being warrantee for up to three years in the second generation mac book pro's..... i don't know who to point the finger at more here....
 
If Mr. Huang is saying that Apple is using the best technology for the computer, why is there over 120 pages of discussion on the SATA II issue? If Apple used the best technology and the full embody experience (Apple's differentiating experience), why has this issue not be resolved in a timely manner?
 
If Mr. Huang is saying that Apple is using the best technology for the computer, why is there over 120 pages of discussion on the SATA II issue? If Apple used the best technology and the full embody experience (Apple's differentiating experience), why has this issue not be resolved in a timely manner?
 
[citation][nom]DalaiLamar[/nom]You know what he has for breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper? You guessed it. MACARONI.[/citation]

And here I thought he was talking about the Mac Donnalds. Getting nice big fat burgers for his whole family, 2 for his son, 1 extra for him, 1 for his daughter and 1 for his wife. Mac for everyone.

Ah well, at least linux drivers are good for nvidia, they are testing it on a mac.
 
That dude needs to work on his public speaking ability, it sounds like he just took one setence and copy/pasted it about 6 times...

And yea, best technology...HAH, when I can buy a Intel i7 Macbook with ATI58XX graphics, then we can talk...
 
"best technology" Is that why they all overheated and thier was a massive recall on the motherboards. You know cause the best technology (nvidia gpu's) overheated. I would rather have a chip that doesnt take down millions of laptops, thank you very much.
 
Here...let me get out my box of crap I don't want. Let's see...I need to make some room here. Let me move Apple over here...this bag of genital warts needs to move over here...this can of explosive diarrhea should fit here....and there...that gives me enough room to place nvidia right here in the middle.
 
This thread is turning into a Mac Vs PC, Intel Vs nVidia, and nVidia Vs ATI thread all in one. I do hate Macs though and I like nVidia PhysX and ATI eyefinity. Why can't we just get along and go up against Apple.
 
[citation][nom]ubernoobie[/nom]then where are the i7s and 5870 crossfires from apple? i've never seen one[/citation]

If you looked at their Mac Pros you would see that they use Xeon Chips with the Nehalem core so essentially you are getting the i7.

As for their macbooks who knows. Also after being in the R and D of a company there is a lot of testing to be done with newer technology (yes I know i7 has been out for a bit now) before they can implement it.

I'm not defending Apple and you can see from my previous posts on other threads im not a fanboy; however I do know how the software and hardware testing cycles go before you launch a product.
 
[citation][nom]dogofwars[/nom]I suppose it's one of the reason now there is a "new" GTX 285 for Mac now lol, usually you have ATI stuff in Mac computer no!??? It's kinda confusing but I am no Mac expert so what do I know Somebody could clarify???[/citation]

So here it is. It was ATI yesterday, it will be nVidia for now, likely may switch back to ATI later. Could be nVidia chipsets now, intel tomorrow. The idea is that Apple does not restrict itself to a single manufacturer, so they can provide a mix and match of the best components available at a snapshot in time, and build a solid system with significant longevity on it.

This does NOT mean they offer the absulute FASTEST or most powerful, or bleeding edge components, it means the SUM of all the comonents is the best package they can make for a PARTICULAR system lineup in a given price range...

It may be a PR rant, and Apple may be their best customer (they're intel's best customer as well, nearly twice the profitabiltiy of Dell for intel, and they go further to actually assist both intel and nVidia, and others too, in DEVELOPING those components to work even better), but the rant is right.

Apple spends a TON of money designing, testing, and tweaking systems. They don;lt just builkd one model and tweak it, they build a dozen machines with different configs, develop their software over time work work best with ALL the components, then release a product based on the ones that truly work well together. Then they contract with the provider to make that chipset or item a flagship item, pay IN ADVANCE for significant chip quantities often requesting higher quality standards as part of that process, and standardize their model line on those components for a year or more.

Dell takes whatever crap is availible at the lowest price each day, slams a bunch of other comodity priced components together, throws windows and some drivers at it and see's if it runs without crashing and calls it a new model. They advertise the highest CPU speed and RAM size for the price they can get it for, but they make no efforts to have synergy between components, and manufacturters and vendors don;t get to see their chips shine like they could, and people who buy Dells say "this GPU is slow" when it;s actually a slow system bus causing bottlenecks to an underclocked processor...

Apple DOES make great stuff. It;s not the most powerful, but for the price, it;s more powerful than the competition, and based on a design you can expect to have around a while and outlast other systems, and you know the OS and the software will run great on it because they didn't just put parts together that the OS runs on, they changed the OS to run better on it, and fully support it.
 
[citation][nom]jenesuispasbavard[/nom]9600m GT = best performance? Yeah, right.[/citation]

No, 9600M GT = best OVERALL SYSTEM performance, when looking at the SUM of the parts, not the individual chip, looking at comperable hardware from other vendors at that price point.

Go on, find a 27" machine with an LED (not tft) display, and these components. you can't even build a machine on New Egg for that price.

Find a 15" machine with a 9600 or better GPU, 1066 frontside and RAM, full 1080p support, 1400x900 or better LED display, 2.66GHz dual core or better, wireless N, bluetooth, 5+ hour battery, and the other components of a MacBook pro (you can even skip the card readers, backlit keyboard, webcam, optical audio, firewire and other bonus features). There is no real competitor that's better that's also not well over $2K... I just bought one this weekend for $1849...

Yea, you can find a knockoff machine for $500 from any vendor, but clearly that's not "the best stuff" either. Don;t forget to take into account Apple's single source support status, extensive OS and software tweaking to eek out better performance from the products, and the reputation they stake by shipping millions of machines with the same chips (compared to even dell's most popular models, for which only a few tens of thousands go out using the same board, conponents, and configuration before the model is replaced/changed). Dell can afford to have flaky systems since only a few who are effected even notice the issue, apple has to GUARANTEE their stuff works, and they spend MILLIONS making sure it does. They still have occasionall issues, but once the issue is verified (which apple automatically denies for about 2-3 weeks while doing phorensices, as Sony and any other company does, they just get bad press for it), Apple replaces any bad components, or gives free 3 year waranties. In 25 years of working macs, i have not had a SINGLE part failure not covered by apple (aside a pair of machines kille dby a flood, and one killed by a car accident). We've owned more than a dozen macs and 2 dozen other apple devices.

 
[citation][nom]amabhy[/nom]And on a side note, would you look at the author. The Yamster strikes again![/citation]
I thought we had been through this a million times, dont attack the newsreader for reporting the news. Honestly, fuckwit comments get -10 in minutes for this exact reason.
 
Not Googd nVidia, you just dropped a notch in my respect for you. What a PR pawn and complete tool. As if I believe Macs use the best technology (which would include hardware by-the-way)... BULLSHIT. I can build a $1,000 system that uses much higher quality parts than ANY Mac ever built. Period.
 
I've gone from gforce fx 5200 --> radeon 9800 pro --> 8800 GTS (First gen) --> ati 4870. I'm usually shooting for the best bang for my buck, although I have to say I used to get BSOD's with the 8800 GTS and haven't yet with the 4870. Point is thank god for their competition I bought my 4870 for like 150$ a couple months ago and I'm playing Dragon Age on max settings. Nvidia has made some ill-advised moves lately which lead me to believe there is a serious chance of them going under. We need their competition, similarly I support AMD 99% of the time even though I know I'm not getting the greatest hardware I can buy for the sole fact AMD's competition is needed to keep Intel honest.
 
Have to post twice: but I seriously think this pro-MAC rant by the CEO is going to get him ousted. nVidia just took a major blow by the PC enthusiast crowd that buy and recommend products to all the average computer users...and my guess is a lot of us are going to start looking a lot closer at ATI as a result. Mr CEO may have took the first step in ending his relationship with nVidia, he certainly just cost the company milllllllions in future revenue loss. ATI must be loving this one.
 
Awesome, another factually false Apple PR "Article" my Marcus. Can't wait for the next one.

By the way, I think the Nvidia CEO accidentally said "Best" instead of "Most expensive".
 
Its the same guy who says that DirectX 11 its no big deal for his company, and that thinks a GTX295 @ $550 its better than Radeon 5870 @ $390 with better performance and less power... Same way apple with Mobile CPU's thinking that are better than Desktop "Overclockable" CPU's for less money. Maybe i live in a planet where better for less its always right and he live in another different one.
 
[citation][nom]ritalinod[/nom]Yer an Idiot. Sony makes the same damn thing for windows users. AND makes a touch screen version for those that are into that kind of thing.[/citation]

+1

Someone must have gotten blown for making this statement. Not sure if Jen-Hsun was pitching or catching though.

On a serious note no Macs do not all use the "best" technology, their mac pros use older video cards, and smaller HD. Sure the iMacs have the LED backlit screens and cudos to you, but the rest of the hardware is trash, Core 2 Duo? 8x "superspeed" burner 8X!!! (I wish i could make the 8 bigger) that's like 2006. It's a completely unbalanced piece of hardware. If you had a line graph it would go down if you started with the 27" monitor. Plus that model is $1700.

The same can be said with the mac pro (no i7 there). etc etc... so yeah someone got blown for this.
 
The reason you don't get 5870s and 9xx series I7s in Macs is because they're catering to completely different markets. 5870s are for gaming and gaming alone, people don't game on Macs - they buy them to get actual work done. At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference - if you like the look and feel of OSX, the confidence knowing your system is built to a high-standard and are willing to pay for that confidence, go Mac. If you want to tinker and play games, go Windows. For everyone else, go Mac, they're just easier to use.
 
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