Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[mr91]

Do you mean 2x the performance of the 970 or 970 in a sli config?

i'm referring to those who are saying that a 1070 will be double a single 970 in performance. too far fetched for me. i'm expecting between a 980 and 980ti for the 1070's performance. still great for the price it will be for sure.

when i say double the performance of a 970 that is sli. i owned 2 x 970s in sli and sold them because a single titanx/980 ti > 2x 970's

During the CEO's 1080/1070 'overview' towards the end (1hr 11mins in) he said the 1080 was twice the perfomrance of the Titan X. This figure clearly relates to his previous VR Slides. He then goes on to introduce the 1070... he said verbatim "6.5 GFLOPS, 8 GB G5 memory, Faster than a Titan X Faster than a titan X" - Yes he said it twice.

i hope the 1070 can match a titan x because thats not far off 1080 performance surely... and with o/c headroom you might be able to o/c a 1070 to a stoc 1080 - wishful thinking perhaps but it may be possible.

Titan X with an OC will beat 970 in SLI in some games... It's possible that the 1070 will beats the Titan x by a bit however we will need to wait until the benchmarks to confirm.

http://videocardz.com/59962/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-final-specifications-and-launch-presentation

 

[renz496]

Here are some leaked slides showing a ton of information on the 1080 from videocardz.com. they don't give a source for the slides but they are supposed to be official nvidia docs. http://videocardz.com/59962/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-final-specifications-and-launch-presentation

most likely part of the reviewer guide?

 

[renz496]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Shahan16 : "you think gtx 1080 will come bundled with a game?"

for example when i bought my gtx 970 it came with batman arkham knight, u think 1080 will also be bundled once companys such as MSI / EVGA get there hands on it

during official launch they will not.

 

[Thomas_115]

ok so here is the thing, I upgraded my pc with r9 390 STRIX and kind of happy with it. NO this 1080 comes and I am thinking should I just sell my r9 390 and go for 1080 or should I stay with this 390. Because according to Nvidia, 1070 n 1080 will be much better than Titan X and that is something.Any suggestions?

 

[detroitwillfall]

ok so here is the thing, I upgraded my pc with r9 390 STRIX and kind of happy with it. NO this 1080 comes and I am thinking should I just sell my r9 390 and go for 1080 or should I stay with this 390. Because according to Nvidia, 1070 n 1080 will be much better than Titan X and that is something.Any suggestions?

when you say kind of happy do u mean u were happy till u found out ur 390 costs as much as the 1070? lol its okay! i returned an r9 380 nitro i never opened and didnt want buyers regret.

the way i see it, once reviews come and a front runner and some solid 3rd partys put out stuff then make ur decision and know that u wont have to upgrade for awhile

 

[Thomas_115]

ok so here is the thing, I upgraded my pc with r9 390 STRIX and kind of happy with it. NO this 1080 comes and I am thinking should I just sell my r9 390 and go for 1080 or should I stay with this 390. Because according to Nvidia, 1070 n 1080 will be much better than Titan X and that is something.Any suggestions?

when you say kind of happy do u mean u were happy till u found out ur 390 costs as much as the 1070? lol its okay! i returned an r9 380 nitro i never opened and didnt want buyers regret.

the way i see it, once reviews come and a front runner and some solid 3rd partys put out stuff then make ur decision and know that u wont have to upgrade for awhile

"u were happy till u found out ur 390 costs as much as the 1070?" :/ Yes exactly. This bugs me alot.
Yes i do know I am fine and dont need an upgrade but a card more powerful than TiTAN X and cost like 390 then I want it ASAP.

 

[KillSwitch07]

ok so here is the thing, I upgraded my pc with r9 390 STRIX and kind of happy with it. NO this 1080 comes and I am thinking should I just sell my r9 390 and go for 1080 or should I stay with this 390. Because according to Nvidia, 1070 n 1080 will be much better than Titan X and that is something.Any suggestions?

when you say kind of happy do u mean u were happy till u found out ur 390 costs as much as the 1070? lol its okay! i returned an r9 380 nitro i never opened and didnt want buyers regret.

the way i see it, once reviews come and a front runner and some solid 3rd partys put out stuff then make ur decision and know that u wont have to upgrade for awhile

"u were happy till u found out ur 390 costs as much as the 1070?" :/ Yes exactly. This bugs me alot.
Yes i do know I am fine and dont need an upgrade but a card more powerful than TiTAN X and cost like 390 then I want it ASAP.

Most people are like this, I always want to upgrade my build constantly and stay on the cutting edge. Then i have to make myself realize; what i have now is fine, it does what i need it to do and will for a good year or two to come. Everytime i go to purchase something for my pc i have to second guess myself because its like "yeah my 390/970 will run all the games i play maxed out on 1080p but ohhh new hardware that has bigger numbers, better sell my current stuff for a 35% loss to buy the new stuff i didnt need in the firstplace. "

 

[Thomas_115]

ok so here is the thing, I upgraded my pc with r9 390 STRIX and kind of happy with it. NO this 1080 comes and I am thinking should I just sell my r9 390 and go for 1080 or should I stay with this 390. Because according to Nvidia, 1070 n 1080 will be much better than Titan X and that is something.Any suggestions?

when you say kind of happy do u mean u were happy till u found out ur 390 costs as much as the 1070? lol its okay! i returned an r9 380 nitro i never opened and didnt want buyers regret.

the way i see it, once reviews come and a front runner and some solid 3rd partys put out stuff then make ur decision and know that u wont have to upgrade for awhile

"u were happy till u found out ur 390 costs as much as the 1070?" :/ Yes exactly. This bugs me alot.
Yes i do know I am fine and dont need an upgrade but a card more powerful than TiTAN X and cost like 390 then I want it ASAP.

Most people are like this, I always want to upgrade my build constantly and stay on the cutting edge. Then i have to make myself realize; what i have now is fine, it does what i need it to do and will for a good year or two to come. Everytime i go to purchase something for my pc i have to second guess myself because its like "yeah my 390/970 will run all the games i play maxed out on 1080p but ohhh new hardware that has bigger numbers, better sell my current stuff for a 35% loss to buy the new stuff i didnt need in the firstplace. "

Y u did this to me. This was something I didnt need to know
Sure 390 can run all games maxed out for 2 to 3 years but its 1080. Better than TITAN X. One must have this cauz winter is coming. Must have this before winter LoL

 

[detroitwillfall]

ok so here is the thing, I upgraded my pc with r9 390 STRIX and kind of happy with it. NO this 1080 comes and I am thinking should I just sell my r9 390 and go for 1080 or should I stay with this 390. Because according to Nvidia, 1070 n 1080 will be much better than Titan X and that is something.Any suggestions?

when you say kind of happy do u mean u were happy till u found out ur 390 costs as much as the 1070? lol its okay! i returned an r9 380 nitro i never opened and didnt want buyers regret.

the way i see it, once reviews come and a front runner and some solid 3rd partys put out stuff then make ur decision and know that u wont have to upgrade for awhile

"u were happy till u found out ur 390 costs as much as the 1070?" :/ Yes exactly. This bugs me alot.
Yes i do know I am fine and dont need an upgrade but a card more powerful than TiTAN X and cost like 390 then I want it ASAP.

Most people are like this, I always want to upgrade my build constantly and stay on the cutting edge. Then i have to make myself realize; what i have now is fine, it does what i need it to do and will for a good year or two to come. Everytime i go to purchase something for my pc i have to second guess myself because its like "yeah my 390/970 will run all the games i play maxed out on 1080p but ohhh new hardware that has bigger numbers, better sell my current stuff for a 35% loss to buy the new stuff i didnt need in the firstplace. "

Y u did this to me. This was something I didnt need to know
Sure 390 can run all games maxed out for 2 to 3 years but its 1080. Better than TITAN X. One must have this cauz winter is coming. Must have this before winter LoL

lol winter is coming. and the only thing we have to say to death is..not today

 

[-Fran-]

Hey guys what do you think these cards will cost in Europe? I expect them to cost in euros as they cost in dollars in US, 599e and 379e respectively?

well you can sort of guess

the 980 ti amp! costs ~$529 in the us and £539.99 n the uk

if we went with just currency exchange rates then the 980 ti amp! should cost £369.38 in the uk, 46% premium

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB WINDFORCE 3X is $594.99 in the us, in the uk it costs £518.80.

If we went with currency exchange one again then it should cost £414.68, 25% premium

so just with this you can expect a 25% to 46% premium

$599.99 us, would then fall in between £749.98 to £875.98 in the uk

€951.25 to €1111.06

XD would be better to use more examples but this is just for funsies

You are forgetting the US does not list prices with local taxes because of the way different states tax stuff. In the UK (and most places around the world) you have a unified tax for technology in the Country. In the UK's case it's 20% (for now). For California, I think the tax was ~14%?

Cheers!

PS: Your spacing is horrible. It really breaks the readability of your post.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Seems like Nvidia's marketing is working on @Thomas_115! LOL

 

[TechyInAZ]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from zoar : "1080gtx should i get founders or reg 1080gtx"

i have i7-4770 CPU
2 3.5 ghz 16gb. should I get founders or reg 1080gtx

Get a normal one, the founders (reference) cards arent worth the extra money I doubt.

 

[Math Geek]

it's a good question and we won't know for sure until we see the cards. $100 is a big premium but the cooling seems to be top notch and a solid overclocker.

custom cards should be cheaper but as always the high end custom cards will cost way more than normal cards. like the asus strix, evga ftw, gigabyte g1 and so on. those always cost a premium over the other cards. they are gonna have to compete with the founder's edition now and not just each other.

 

[James Mason]

I hope the 3rd party card makers sell pre-OC'd 2.1 GHz versions of the 1080/70s.

Assuming they also make better air coolers as well, maybe 2.1 is a low request.

 

[Math Geek]

i'd expect better myself with the crazy high end cards a good bit higher. 2.5 ghz does not seem too crazy to me for the evga ftw and other super overclocked cards. all depends on how the chips overclock. they are already much higher than we have seen before so it's possible that 2.1 is already pushing it near the max.

tomorrow tomorrow, i love ya tomorrow, you're only a day away...........

 

[Rossdowling321]

Yep, I can't wait to check out all of the 4k benchmarks after work tomorrow

 

[ShertheLove]

Here's what I'm hoping doesn't happen, but I see as a possibility:

As we know, $599 is the MSRP while the Founder's Edition is $699. From what we've seen, the Founder's Edition is plenty capable of overclocking while keeping cool temps (per Nvidia press conference).

What I'm hoping doesn't happen is that the Founder's Edition is basically the premium performance range. This would mean that the $599ish cards will run at the base clock and have slight overclocking capabilities, making them the new "reference" performance range cards. However, the board partners will still release custom designs, but won't see much of an increase in performance since the Founder's Edition is already close to maxing out.

Hopefully that makes sense how I explained it.

TLDR - $599 equals "reference" performance of the past while $699 is basically the start of the premium cards.

Thoughts?

 

[Gurg]

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52097/leaked-geforce-gtx-1080-benchmarks-show-dominating-titan-fury/index.html

About 1600 points lower on Firestrike Ultra than my 2x980s(overclocked) in sli.

 

[James Mason]

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52097/leaked-geforce-gtx-1080-benchmarks-show-dominating-titan-fury/index.html

About 1600 points lower on Firestrike Ultra than my 2x980s(overclocked) in sli.

Care to prove that?

That leaked benchmark is probably also at stock speeds, so i don't think it's unreal that 2 980s being overclocked in could beat it, but 1600 points sounds a bit much.

 

[James Mason]

Here's what I'm hoping doesn't happen, but I see as a possibility:

As we know, $599 is the MSRP while the Founder's Edition is $699. From what we've seen, the Founder's Edition is plenty capable of overclocking while keeping cool temps (per Nvidia press conference).

What I'm hoping doesn't happen is that the Founder's Edition is basically the premium performance range. This would mean that the $599ish cards will run at the base clock and have slight overclocking capabilities, making them the new "reference" performance range cards. However, the board partners will still release custom designs, but won't see much of an increase in performance since the Founder's Edition is already close to maxing out.

Hopefully that makes sense how I explained it.

TLDR - $599 equals "reference" performance of the past while $699 is basically the start of the premium cards.

Thoughts?

Nvidia said the Founder's aren't special cards, they're just cards with Nvidia's reference cooler priced at a level that gives the 3rd party manufacturer's plenty of room to still sell their cards without feeling they are actually competing with Nvidia for card sales.

If you want an nvidia reference card, there's a $100 premium cost on it basically.

 

[rgd1101]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from smoggy12345 : "GTX 1070/1080 & Nvidia 'Fast Sync'"

So theres an article out recently about the new GFX 1080/1070 and goes into some details about the features on the new cards....

The one I'm interested in is 'Fast Sync'.

In the slide about fast sync its explains about an alternative to Vsync with uncapped framerates and low latency.....sure sounds like AMD's free sync! I'm hoping this is Nvidia officially supporting adaptive sync therefore working on Freesync enables monitors.

I read articles everywhere about how Nvidia wont support freesync etc... But this does not make sense ot me as G-Sync has a premium.....quite a BIG premium infact which has already turned off MANY potential customers...alot are now opting for Freesync monitors and AMD cards, myself inclued, as the outlay for similar performance is much cheaper....so unless Nvidia want to lose a pretty large chunk of GPU sales it only makes sense to support adaptive sync??

Thoughts?

 

[rgd1101]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Doubledigit12 : "non reference 1070s released on same day as reference?"

Hey guys,
As you guys probably know the release of nvidias new graphics cards the 1080 and 1070 is coming up and I have a question. I have never bought a gpu on release day before and I was wondering if on the day of June 10 ,when the 1070 is released, will there be aftermarket cards (evga, asus etc) available or will it only be reference cards available. I yes do you have any idea when the aftermarkets will be available?

Cheers,
James

 

[ShertheLove]

Here's what I'm hoping doesn't happen, but I see as a possibility:

As we know, $599 is the MSRP while the Founder's Edition is $699. From what we've seen, the Founder's Edition is plenty capable of overclocking while keeping cool temps (per Nvidia press conference).

What I'm hoping doesn't happen is that the Founder's Edition is basically the premium performance range. This would mean that the $599ish cards will run at the base clock and have slight overclocking capabilities, making them the new "reference" performance range cards. However, the board partners will still release custom designs, but won't see much of an increase in performance since the Founder's Edition is already close to maxing out.

Hopefully that makes sense how I explained it.

TLDR - $599 equals "reference" performance of the past while $699 is basically the start of the premium cards.

Thoughts?

Nvidia said the Founder's aren't special cards, they're just cards with Nvidia's reference cooler priced at a level that gives the 3rd party manufacturer's plenty of room to still sell their cards without feeling they are actually competing with Nvidia for card sales.

If you want an nvidia reference card, there's a $100 premium cost on it basically.

The other question is what Nvidia's end game is by charging a premium for the reference design. Also, what's the margin difference for the board partners selling the reference design, that can be greatly overclocked, and designing/testing their own boards and coolers (we'll probably never know this). They might be able to factory overclock the Founder's Edition the same extent they can with their own designs.

Perhaps it's Nvidia pulling their own MS Surface products. MS said they weren't "competing" but just showing what could be done hardware wise with the software and now look at the Surface line. Nvidia's end game could be selling directly to consumers and retailers and cutting out some board partners. Currently, the Founder's Editions are still sold by the board partners, so the board partners still get a cut.

 

[17seconds]

HardOCP put out an explanation of the Founder's edition cards.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/09/nvidia_founders_edition_cards_yea_or_nay/

 

[ShertheLove]

HardOCP put out an explanation of the Founder's edition cards.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/09/nvidia_founders_edition_cards_yea_or_nay/

I understand the concept of the Founder's Edition cards, but this part of the article helped:

"These NVTTM cards of course have the "reference cooler" installed. All of these NVTTM cards are also built by NVIDIA, usually either by Foxcon or Flextronics, that also happen to build a lot of NVIDIA's professional workstation Quadro cards. All of these cards built by NVIDIA are put together with exacting standards in terms of PCB quality, power component and other circuitry quality, cooler quality, sound profile, and packaging. I have literally been told for years, that NVIDIA either breaks even or loses money on NVTTM/reference cards sold into the market."

Perhaps this is Nvidia's way of trying to make a profit on these cards rather than breaking even or losing money. Additionally, this says Nvidia themselves contracts out the production through Foxconn or Flextronics. Afterwards, the cards must be sent to board partners for packaging and distribution in addition to handling warranties for customers.