Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[maxalge]

Hey guys what do you think these cards will cost in Europe? I expect them to cost in euros as they cost in dollars in US, 599e and 379e respectively?

well you can sort of guess

the 980 ti amp! costs ~$529 in the us and £539.99 n the uk

if we went with just currency exchange rates then the 980 ti amp! should cost £369.38 in the uk, 46% premium

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB WINDFORCE 3X is $594.99 in the us, in the uk it costs £518.80.

If we went with currency exchange one again then it should cost £414.68, 25% premium

so just with this you can expect a 25% to 46% premium

$599.99 us, would then fall in between £749.98 to £875.98 in the uk

€951.25 to €1111.06

XD would be better to use more examples but this is just for funsies

You are forgetting the US does not list prices with local taxes because of the way different states tax stuff. In the UK (and most places around the world) you have a unified tax for technology in the Country. In the UK's case it's 20% (for now). For California, I think the tax was ~14%?

Cheers!

PS: Your spacing is horrible. It really breaks the readability of your post.

that would not explain the 46% premium on the amp


also in the us there are places where you dont pay sales tax, like oregon

sales tax in california is 7.5%

that's the first time I ever read someone complain about too much spacing

 

[Math Geek]

thank goodness we still don't pay sales tax online in most states in the US. only a couple are trying to collect that so far. saves a ton of cash building pc's from online stores not paying tax on $1000+ builds

 

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I think/hope that the Founder's card is going to represent the top end price (except for maybe a Lighting, HoF, Matrix Platinum, or Kingpin ultra-card). We've already seen this generation's $599 reference cards, like this one from Galax:

The pattern in the past has been that custom models only tack on ~$20-$30 beyond the reference price. So I'm expecting/hoping to see the Strix, ACX SC, Gaming, Windforce models to come in around $630 or so give or take.

 

[James Mason]

I think/hope that the Founder's card is going to represent the top end price (except for maybe a Lighting, HoF, Matrix Platinum, or Kingpin ultra-card). We've already seen this generation's $599 reference cards, like this one from Galax:
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The pattern in the past has been that custom models only tack on ~$20-$30 beyond the reference price. So I'm expecting/hoping to see the Strix, ACX SC, Gaming, Windforce models to come in around $630 or so give or take.

I'm expecting the 3rd party cards to come in at $599 if not lower for non-OC'd/higher end coolers. Of course retailers might change the prices based on demand.

And yeah, the lightning/kingpin will likely be around / a little above reference price, but if it has 2.1 GHZ OC i'll pay it 😛

 

[-Fran-]

that would not explain the 46% premium on the amp

also in the us there are places where you dont pay sales tax, like oregon

sales tax in california is 7.5%

that's the first time I ever read someone complain about too much spacing

Well, labor in the UK (transport, shipping and advertising) is way more expensive than the US for the most part (base salary is like USD$1400 a month). I also don't think the parts cost the same (as in 1:1) for the UK importers and you have to add profit margins to that. Tax is also way more overall. 20% from the base price is *a lot*. Even if you *might* get it as tax return. It all adds up and the price difference, at least to my eyes, is explainable.

In any case... I mentioned tax, because it's the biggest reason why you see such big differences. The counter point is, if any of our fellow US citizens gets sick, they won't be able to pay for any fancy piece of hardware 😛

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RE: 1080FE.-

I find that reason very stupid to ask $100USD more for *the same* card. It's like saying: "yeah, our partners make such bad cards that we have to step up and show them how it's done". They are all assembled in China, by one or another company that might be affiliated to Foxconn anyway and the only difference is QA? Why is everyone taking the nVidia shill pill so easy? AMD asked CM to make the watercooled solution for the Fury X and it charged $100 more over the Fury. And it's even higher clocked (for what it's worth).

Cheers!

 

[James Mason]

RE: 1080FE.-

I find that reason very stupid to ask $100USD more for *the same* card. It's like saying: "yeah, our partners make such bad cards that we have to step up and show them how it's done". They are all assembled in China, by one or another company that might be affiliated to Foxconn anyway and the only difference is QA? Why is everyone taking the nVidia shill pill so easy? AMD asked CM to make the watercooled solution for the Fury X and it charged $100 more over the Fury. And it's even higher clocked (for what it's worth).

Cheers!

The 1080FE 100 is so they DON'T compete with the board partners. You consumers still kind of demand to use a reference cards, and they've proved to be better in SLI configurations because of reduced airflow. So Nvidia is making it so board partners don't have to sell reference cards, and they don't have to compete with Nvidia for stock cards at the same price points.

 

[Alerean]

RE: 1080FE.-

I find that reason very stupid to ask $100USD more for *the same* card. It's like saying: "yeah, our partners make such bad cards that we have to step up and show them how it's done". They are all assembled in China, by one or another company that might be affiliated to Foxconn anyway and the only difference is QA? Why is everyone taking the nVidia shill pill so easy? AMD asked CM to make the watercooled solution for the Fury X and it charged $100 more over the Fury. And it's even higher clocked (for what it's worth).

Cheers!

The 1080FE 100 is so they DON'T compete with the board partners. You consumers still kind of demand to use a reference cards, and they've proved to be better in SLI configurations because of reduced airflow. So Nvidia is making it so board partners don't have to sell reference cards, and they don't have to compete with Nvidia for stock cards at the same price points.

I agree. At first the business model doesn't seem to make much sense, but I think it's just Nvidia's way of being able to sell a portion of their own cards independently of board partners, while at the same time not shooting those same partners in the back. As you say, there are reasons you might want to get a blower style card and if what they say about the quality of the reference cards is true it'll be a logical purchase for quite a few people. Now if board partners release their own blower designs at a lower price point it will make the Founder edition a tough sell (are they even allowed to do this?!).

 

[ShertheLove]

RE: 1080FE.-

I find that reason very stupid to ask $100USD more for *the same* card. It's like saying: "yeah, our partners make such bad cards that we have to step up and show them how it's done". They are all assembled in China, by one or another company that might be affiliated to Foxconn anyway and the only difference is QA? Why is everyone taking the nVidia shill pill so easy? AMD asked CM to make the watercooled solution for the Fury X and it charged $100 more over the Fury. And it's even higher clocked (for what it's worth).

Cheers!

The 1080FE 100 is so they DON'T compete with the board partners. You consumers still kind of demand to use a reference cards, and they've proved to be better in SLI configurations because of reduced airflow. So Nvidia is making it so board partners don't have to sell reference cards, and they don't have to compete with Nvidia for stock cards at the same price points.

RE: 1080FE.-

I find that reason very stupid to ask $100USD more for *the same* card. It's like saying: "yeah, our partners make such bad cards that we have to step up and show them how it's done". They are all assembled in China, by one or another company that might be affiliated to Foxconn anyway and the only difference is QA? Why is everyone taking the nVidia shill pill so easy? AMD asked CM to make the watercooled solution for the Fury X and it charged $100 more over the Fury. And it's even higher clocked (for what it's worth).

Cheers!

The 1080FE 100 is so they DON'T compete with the board partners. You consumers still kind of demand to use a reference cards, and they've proved to be better in SLI configurations because of reduced airflow. So Nvidia is making it so board partners don't have to sell reference cards, and they don't have to compete with Nvidia for stock cards at the same price points.

I agree. At first the business model doesn't seem to make much sense, but I think it's just Nvidia's way of being able to sell a portion of their own cards independently of board partners, while at the same time not shooting those same partners in the back. As you say, there are reasons you might want to get a blower style card and if what they say about the quality of the reference cards is true it'll be a logical purchase for quite a few people. Now if board partners release their own blower/reference designs at a lower price point it will make the Founder edition a tough sell.

Aren't the board partners still the ones packaging and distributing the FE cards? They all have them on their websites with boxes shown (although this could just be for marketing till they get their own versions). From my understanding, Nvidia is just the one's producing them and the board partners and in charge of the rest. That would mean the board partners are still getting a cut. And depending on what kind of contracts they have, the board partners could stop buying the FE cards from Nvidia once they have their own designs.

 

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I wonder how long it will take people to figure this out, given how many are still trying to figure out Turbo Boost 2.0.

 

[axlrose]

I know 5/27 will be crazy. I remember back when I was one of those people when the 280 came out. . I'm going to be out of town at the beginning of June so getting a card only to have it sit makes no sense. What do you expect the scene to look like late June?

 

[Thomas_115]

Seems like Nvidia's marketing is working on @Thomas_115! LOL 😛

ANd you think that Nvidia wont be delivering what they showed in the press event? 1080 would not be a big deal??

 

[KillSwitch07]

Seems like Nvidia's marketing is working on @Thomas_115! LOL 😛

ANd you think that Nvidia wont be delivering what they showed in the press event? 1080 would not be a big deal??

They will deliver, on vr. We shouldnt expect much more than an overhyped card on release that was made for vr.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Overhyped in what way? It's 30%-60% faster than a TitanX depending on clock speed. And that's only up to 2.1Ghz. The water cooled cards are rumored to hit 2.5Ghz. That's in gaming performance not VR. Not bad since it will be cheaper than a 980 Ti. I paid almost $725 for my 980 Ti directly from EVGA after shipping and tax about a month after they released last year. I certainly don't think paying over $100 less for over half again as much performance here 8 or 10 months later is indicative of hype?

 

[Alerean]

Why don't you wait for credible benchmarks and testing before throwing it under a bus? Given what we know already I think that assumptions like that are a bit premature. At the very least it's going to provide better performance per dollar and higher efficiency than current cards, both of which are valuable to consumers.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Seems like Nvidia's marketing is working on @Thomas_115! LOL 😛

ANd you think that Nvidia wont be delivering what they showed in the press event? 1080 would not be a big deal??

I was mainly meaning the fact that your returning the r9 390. It typically takes a LOT for somebody to do that.

I mean't it half jokingly aswell.

 

[imnotagamer007]

Will it be worth upgrading to the 1070 from a 970?

 

[Alerean]

Will it be worth upgrading to the 1070 from a 970?

We'll find out soon.

 

[Rossdowling321]

Anyone got any benchmark videos/links yet?

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Anyone got any benchmark videos/links yet?

http://videocardz.com/59882/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-overclocking-performance

 

[Rossdowling321]

Anyone got any benchmark videos/links yet?

http://videocardz.com/59882/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-overclocking-performance

Nono, sorry I mean 1080p/1440p/2160p FPS benchmarks now the NDA is lifted

 

[NiCkS_91]

hi guys I'm going to open a new post on the eternal challenge between blowers and open air coolers. I need your help to figure out if I can buy an open air cooled OC card with my system or I have to go for the Founders Edition base clocks (i am not an expert on manual OC at all).
I have a mid tower case with a single fan on the front to extract air (not so efficient in my opinion), and two 120mm exhaust fan, one on the top and one on the back. My cooling is very basic, in fact I use the stock CPU Intel cooler.
I have currently an MSI GTX 670 using the blower design but with a little OC, and temperatures are 82° fix the card, and the CPU can go from 60 to 70° on the basis of the load which is required by the game.
I am really wondering if substituting the card with a 1080 open air cooled version will increase the CPU temperature at a level which will make me loose all the benefits of an OC (and will harm the system).
In such situation would you buy the Founders, wait for an MSI/ASUS/... custom, or wait for an improbable blower design card with factory OC?

 

[paulbatzing]

hi guys I'm going to open a new post on the eternal challenge between blowers and open air coolers. I need your help to figure out if I can buy an open air cooled OC card with my system or I have to go for the Founders Edition base clocks (i am not an expert on manual OC at all).
I have a mid tower case with a single fan on the front to extract air (not so efficient in my opinion), and two 120mm exhaust fan, one on the top and one on the back. My cooling is very basic, in fact I use the stock CPU Intel cooler.
I have currently an MSI GTX 670 using the blower design but with a little OC, and temperatures are 82° fix the card, and the CPU can go from 60 to 70° on the basis of the load which is required by the game.
I am really wondering if substituting the card with a 1080 open air cooled version will increase the CPU temperature at a level which will make me loose all the benefits of an OC (and will harm the system).
In such situation would you buy the Founders, wait for an MSI/ASUS/... custom, or wait for an improbable blower design card with factory OC?

What CPU so you have? 70 on a CPU is not dangerzone, and the newest ones "throttle" at around 80, so a bit more is possible without any danger. The 1080 has however 10W higher TDP at stock. If I were you I would buy a new cooler for the CPU and an openly cooled gpu, then you should be golden. I would however wait for after some aftermarked specs are revealed before deciding on one or the other, there will probably be several blower style gpus this time around, and prices will vary between designs. Anyway, wait for bechmarks before you decide to buy.

 

[NiCkS_91]

hi guys I'm going to open a new post on the eternal challenge between blowers and open air coolers. I need your help to figure out if I can buy an open air cooled OC card with my system or I have to go for the Founders Edition base clocks (i am not an expert on manual OC at all).
I have a mid tower case with a single fan on the front to extract air (not so efficient in my opinion), and two 120mm exhaust fan, one on the top and one on the back. My cooling is very basic, in fact I use the stock CPU Intel cooler.
I have currently an MSI GTX 670 using the blower design but with a little OC, and temperatures are 82° fix the card, and the CPU can go from 60 to 70° on the basis of the load which is required by the game.
I am really wondering if substituting the card with a 1080 open air cooled version will increase the CPU temperature at a level which will make me loose all the benefits of an OC (and will harm the system).
In such situation would you buy the Founders, wait for an MSI/ASUS/... custom, or wait for an improbable blower design card with factory OC?

What CPU so you have? 70 on a CPU is not dangerzone, and the newest ones "throttle" at around 80, so a bit more is possible without any danger. The 1080 has however 10W higher TDP at stock. If I were you I would buy a new cooler for the CPU and an openly cooled gpu, then you should be golden. I would however wait for after some aftermarked specs are revealed before deciding on one or the other, there will probably be several blower style gpus this time around, and prices will vary between designs. Anyway, wait for bechmarks before you decide to buy.

My CPU is a i7 3770 and in fact I am not worried at all for the current temps, but think about paying so many dollars for a card and than risking to have temp problems, so I feel to be at a borderline situation. Of course I'll wait to see which will go out. Maybe is time to go for a Corsair H60. Let's see the benchmarks first

 

[Michael Trenton]

It's May 17th so isn't the NDA lifted? Yet I see no people having posted their 1080 reviews and benchmarks on youtube yet. I'd expect those youtube reviewers who have had the card on their hands for a while to upload their videos just past midnight to be the first ones to post reviews?

 

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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/26.html