Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[TehPenguin]

Thanks! It seems I need my patient pants for now. My HD5870(yes, you read that right, ancient technology)is shivering out of excitement that she can retire soon. Knowing mid 2016 is going to be huge I waited so long to upgrade that right now every week seems like a year. On the up side though, my pc-budged nearly doubled in the meantime so woop-woop for spending unnecessary amounts of money to build a pretty computer.

 

[Math Geek]

i'd wait for the 1070's and whatever amd is putting out to show up before making any decisions personally. got that money eating a hole in your pocket i am sure but a little more patience cause you're almost there.

 

[DustinV]

I don't know, I think dropping $1200 on a Titan x is totally worth it right now

 

[Mousemonkey]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from dogeboss : "When will custom gtx 1080 cards be released?"

when are custom cards from Nvidia’s board partners likely coming out?

Soon ™

-Wolf sends

How long after the release of the founders edition (27 May) will custom cards be released?

 

[U6b36ef]

GTX 1080 specs:
•CUDA Cores: 2560
•Core Clock: 1607MHz
•Boost Clock: 1733MHz
•VRAM: 8GB GDDR5X
•TFLOP: 9
•Memory Clock: 10Gbps GDDR5X
•Memory Bus Width: 256-bit
•TDP: 180W
•Transistors: 7.2b
•Manufacturing process: TSMC 16nm

GTX 970 specs:
•CUDA Cores: 1920
•Core Clock: 1506MHz
•Boost Clock: 1600MHz
•VRAM: 8GB GDDR5
•TFLOP: 6.5
•Memory Clock: 8 Gbps
•Memory Bus Width: 256-bit
•TDP: 150W
•Transistors: 7.2b
•Manufacturing process: TSMC 16nm


I am confused. The specs listed here are for the GTX 1080 which is listed elsewhere as the Founders Edition.

I correct in believing there are two GTX 1080 versions. One with lower specs than the Founders Edition. It's mentioned on this vid at 8:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWvmt9wk0n4

What then are the specs of the normal GTX 1080? Please does anyone know?

 

[DustinV]

Founders edition = reference
It will perform worse than aftermarket versions, which we don't know much info on yet

The bottom one is the Gtx 1070

 

[TehPenguin]

Haven't seen any lower specked 1080's. This one seems fine, too.

 

[U6b36ef]

I am thinking that the GTX 1080 is release price of $600. The Founders is release price of $700.

The card that every reviewer is looking at is the Founders Edition. The most expensive, and higher specced. No-one has mentioned the specs of the cheaper 1080 anywhere. Totally confusing.

I am thinking if the:
GTX 1080 specs:
•CUDA Cores: 2560
•Core Clock: 1607MHz
•Boost Clock: 1733MHz
•VRAM: 8GB GDDR5X

are the $600 card, in the UK it will be £400 and a worthy upgrade to my GTX 980.

However everyone is saying these specs are the Founders Edition, the $700 card.


The two different prices and cards are mentioned here (a standard and a Founders edition), at 8:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWvmt9wk0n4

 

[DustinV]

The $600 card will be better than the more expensive $700 card
Seems backwards, but it's so nvidia doesn't compete with board partners
You should expect the $600 versions to have higher clock speeds than the founders edition

 

[TehPenguin]

ASAIK the Founders Edition is no different from the non-founder edition. It's nVidia's own cooler design an a higher price to not compete with board partners. Also: the only one available at launch.

 

[Math Geek]

normally, the reference card is the lowest specs once the custom cards come out. Nvidia chose to add a $100 price premium to the reference card this time around. they named it the "founders edition" like has been seen. it seems that the custom cards can start at $600 but where they are actually priced is anyone's guess at this point.

again normally, the custom cards are clocked higher and better cooled than reference cards and i don't expect the 1080's to be any different. we don't have any specifics yet but once we do, you can bet they will make it here

sit tight for now and wait is all we can do. probably a couple weeks before we see any custom cards even in reviews. anyone paying $700 for the reference card right now without waiting for the custom card specs and pricing is asking to be second guessing that purchase for sure 😉

 

[U6b36ef]

Thanks folks.

@TehPenguin. Ah so you think the Founders is for a new fandangled Nvidia cooler. I think I heard or read that, now you mention it.

My plan is wait for the other manufacturers to release theirs. Wait and see if there are any issues like RAM-gate with the GTX 970. Then buy probably an Asus GTX 1080 if it is all OK.

 

[U6b36ef]

Thank you also Math Geek. Sit tight.

 

[DustinV]

You realize the 970 would of been a 3gb card if nvidia didn't figure out the new way to increase the ram to 3.5 gb and 512mb at slower speed

 

[Rossdowling321]

You realize the 970 would of been a 3gb card if nvidia didn't figure out the new way to increase the ram to 3.5 gb and 512mb at slower speed

Yeah but their advertising was misleading as always, fair enough it was a 4gb card but its performace cap was 3.5gb.

 

[Jonathan Cave]

Not everyone! They left out me, what the hell? But in all seriousness I'm starting to contemplate making my own channel just to get free stuff from vendors. Does anybody know how many subs you ought to have so that vendors send you stuff? Seriously - all these big "tech" youtubers suck - it's a pain to watch their videos but there's no other way to learn about some particular products - unless you have just nearby a retailer with great return policy but even then trying out all the stuff you consider buying is a pain in the ass. I cringe at their lame attempts at humor that can entertain only a 12 year old and the way they carry themselves like they're tv anchors or something is effing ridiculous. It all could've been overlooked if not for the fact that they don't make REALLY important videos like head to head comparison of gpus or monitors by different vendors (smaller channels do that but not the big ones - politics, I guess). For me, the last straw with all these douchebags was when they kept uploading all these meaningless videos before the keynote speech and then after before the 17th of May talking about NOTHING useful - just blabbing about NOTHING. Jesus, all these media whores should be ashamed of themselves - I can't think of them as descent people no matter how hard I try.

The only credible and unbiased reviews are from Gamers Nexus, Digital Foundrt and TechYesCity - everyone else makes cringe. Watch their 1080 videos and you'll see what i mean. They are the only youtubers which seem to have integrity and don't 'spin' stuff.

 

[Jonathan Cave]

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Love these guys

 

[velzelvul]

Not everyone! They left out me, what the hell? But in all seriousness I'm starting to contemplate making my own channel just to get free stuff from vendors. Does anybody know how many subs you ought to have so that vendors send you stuff? Seriously - all these big "tech" youtubers suck - it's a pain to watch their videos but there's no other way to learn about some particular products - unless you have just nearby a retailer with great return policy but even then trying out all the stuff you consider buying is a pain in the ass. I cringe at their lame attempts at humor that can entertain only a 12 year old and the way they carry themselves like they're tv anchors or something is effing ridiculous. It all could've been overlooked if not for the fact that they don't make REALLY important videos like head to head comparison of gpus or monitors by different vendors (smaller channels do that but not the big ones - politics, I guess). For me, the last straw with all these douchebags was when they kept uploading all these meaningless videos before the keynote speech and then after before the 17th of May talking about NOTHING useful - just blabbing about NOTHING. Jesus, all these media whores should be ashamed of themselves - I can't think of them as descent people no matter how hard I try.

The only credible and unbiased reviews are from Gamers Nexus, Digital Foundrt and TechYesCity - everyone else makes cringe. Watch their 1080 videos and you'll see what i mean. They are the only youtubers which seem to have integrity and don't 'spin' stuff.

Thanks, man.

 

[U6b36ef]

You realize the 970 would of been a 3gb card if nvidia didn't figure out the new way to increase the ram to 3.5 gb and 512mb at slower speed

If they had made it a 3.5GB card, everyone would have been OK about it. I would. Trouble was when you hit RAM-gate, perfomance bombed. I had it with Shadow of Mordor in 1440p maxed. The Frame rate dropped from about 40-60fps, and bombed down to about 23fps.

Definitely a good idea to hold on and see what the deal really is with the 1080. I will want one for when I buy The Withcer 3 season pass I think. Though it's fine on 1080p with the 980, I think I want a 1440p monitor which the 980 is only just about OK with.

 

[U6b36ef]

I don't know, I think dropping $1200 on a Titan x is totally worth it right now

Very funny. (Don't try this at home kids.)

 

[renz496]

Are you sure you're not mistaking lack of raw performance causing the performance drop and not the VRAM configuration on 970? People say the performance will tank once the VRAM usage exceed 3.5GB but what did you do again to increase VRAM usage? That's it. Using much more demanding setting like much higher res texture or higher level of anti aliasing. the reduction in performance is to be expected because of much demanding setting so you can't blame the VRAM config for that. The real problem with segmented VRAM was stutter. I used to own 660SLI. if VRAM usage exceed 1.5GB my game will stutter. But my FPS are not largely affected by that. there is only reduction with my average because i was using setting that ia much more demanding. 970 memory segmentation is the evolution from what we are seeing in 660s. With SoM ultra texture i can see VRAM usage shoot up to 4GB even on 1080p. But there is no stutter and my FPS still easily maintained at 60fps save for the situation where cpu can be the bottleneck (like in crowded battle).

 

[U6b36ef]

Are you sure you're not mistaking lack of raw performance causing the performance drop and not the VRAM configuration on 970? People say the performance will tank once the VRAM usage exceed 3.5GB but what did you do again to increase VRAM usage? That's it. Using much more demanding setting like much higher res texture or higher level of anti aliasing. the reduction in performance is to be expected because of much demanding setting so you can't blame the VRAM config for that. The real problem with segmented VRAM was stutter. I used to own 660SLI. if VRAM usage exceed 1.5GB my game will stutter. But my FPS are not largely affected by that. there is only reduction with my average because i was using setting that ia much more demanding. 970 memory segmentation is the evolution from what we are seeing in 660s. With SoM ultra texture i can see VRAM usage shoot up to 4GB even on 1080p. But there is no stutter and my FPS still easily maintained at 60fps save for the situation where cpu can be the bottleneck (like in crowded battle).

Pretty sure it was RAM-gate. Shadow of Mordor with settings maxed and 1440p regularly exceeded 3.5GB RAM. Sometimes it used all 4GB of the RAM. When over 3.5GB performance crashed intermittently. It and without warning as said, from 40-60fps and crashed to about 23fps for minutes at a time.

 

[renz496]

And they work just fine with my 970. Still got high frame rates (exceed 60 to be exact) when VRAM usage exceed 3.5GB. I did try with other games to see how they affect other games but the only games that stutter (still not as bad as my 660sli) was assassin creed unity. Games like SoM, advance warfare, dying light have no stutter when VRAM usage exceed 3.5GB. all this with 1080p res though. In your case did the game stutter when VRAM usage exceed 3.5GB?

 

[Bossyfins]

Not everyone! They left out me, what the hell? But in all seriousness I'm starting to contemplate making my own channel just to get free stuff from vendors. Does anybody know how many subs you ought to have so that vendors send you stuff? Seriously - all these big "tech" youtubers suck - it's a pain to watch their videos but there's no other way to learn about some particular products - unless you have just nearby a retailer with great return policy but even then trying out all the stuff you consider buying is a pain in the ass. I cringe at their lame attempts at humor that can entertain only a 12 year old and the way they carry themselves like they're tv anchors or something is effing ridiculous. It all could've been overlooked if not for the fact that they don't make REALLY important videos like head to head comparison of gpus or monitors by different vendors (smaller channels do that but not the big ones - politics, I guess). For me, the last straw with all these douchebags was when they kept uploading all these meaningless videos before the keynote speech and then after before the 17th of May talking about NOTHING useful - just blabbing about NOTHING. Jesus, all these media whores should be ashamed of themselves - I can't think of them as descent people no matter how hard I try.

You won't get anywhere with that expectation...
You gotta earn the respect from the community first, once you build up you go up. I used to write articles for a smaller website, not sure If i can disclose it, but we used to only have lower companies that sponsored us, then we got AMD, and now we have NVIDIA. And that work was based off of 200 pages worth of articles. All the way back in the 600 series days,

 

[Bossyfins]

Not everyone! They left out me, what the hell? But in all seriousness I'm starting to contemplate making my own channel just to get free stuff from vendors. Does anybody know how many subs you ought to have so that vendors send you stuff? Seriously - all these big "tech" youtubers suck - it's a pain to watch their videos but there's no other way to learn about some particular products - unless you have just nearby a retailer with great return policy but even then trying out all the stuff you consider buying is a pain in the ass. I cringe at their lame attempts at humor that can entertain only a 12 year old and the way they carry themselves like they're tv anchors or something is effing ridiculous. It all could've been overlooked if not for the fact that they don't make REALLY important videos like head to head comparison of gpus or monitors by different vendors (smaller channels do that but not the big ones - politics, I guess). For me, the last straw with all these douchebags was when they kept uploading all these meaningless videos before the keynote speech and then after before the 17th of May talking about NOTHING useful - just blabbing about NOTHING. Jesus, all these media whores should be ashamed of themselves - I can't think of them as descent people no matter how hard I try.

The only credible and unbiased reviews are from Gamers Nexus, Digital Foundrt and TechYesCity - everyone else makes cringe. Watch their 1080 videos and you'll see what i mean. They are the only youtubers which seem to have integrity and don't 'spin' stuff.

Aye, Bryan. Him and I had a bit of a dis-agreement over whether you can call the 1070 nerfed. His reasoning was there was only about a 20% cuda count change between the 970/980, where as the 1070/1080 is 33%. However, I told him to look at its a new card which sould perform on par with the 980 ti, hell even higher, for 400$.

Although great content. His used PC videos are the best, and his kid is cute.