Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

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I think it's hilarious! As I typed <-- those words, another sucker was just born. I remember back in April 2011 scoring a GTX 680 on NewEgg by sheer luck logging in and seeing the "in stock" button. I hit it without even thinking and got one. For weeks they were hard to come by. Mine was a $520 EVGA SC variant (which I still have two of in SLI in a now backup gaming rig). It was tempting to Amazon/eBay it for $800+, and in hindsight, I should have. That's what others were selling their new acquisitions for.

My only problem is that there are trolls on Amazon giving that GPU 1-star reviews because of the price gouging by those who got lucky and snapped one up. Amazon needs to clean that mess up and leave the legit reviews up.
 


My best explanation for why Amazon and Newegg stars/eggs are mostly a joke are those knock-off power supplies that are highly dangerous and usually get 4 stars.
 


That's because they all review them only after they've had the PC for half a year.
 
no need for such language. can get your point across much better without resorting to that.

amd seems to be doing better with dx12. so i'd assume this trend will continue. the nvidia cards are running great fps anyway but if you have to have the best fps, then whatever amd drops as a high end card later in the year may take that crown in dx 12 titles.
 


Surely you mean 1080 Ti. :bounce:
 
Sorry for that :ange:
If you dont mind ill make the question again.

With the nvidia problem with async compute, its possible that 1070 and 1080 will fall in performance against their amd counterparts prematurely?
 


Will they? Will they really? Do you really think that every game in the future will rely on Async compute?
 
yup, it'll be the same in the future as it is now. a developer who uses certain features that favor a particular card will of course see better performance from that brand. one who chooses a different feature set or game engine will favor the other brand and thus they will do better in that one. does not seem like there will ever be a single card that just does great in every game. it's just not gonna happen unless everyone follows a common architecture.

as i said above. the 1070/80 may fall short of an amd gpu in that type of game but it will still perform to a high level even if it does not "win" we are starting to put way too much into simply having the most fps in a given game. there is so much more to it than that. we see lots of reviews of cards that do not beat another card, yet the review will say something like "though it did not beat the _____ the gameplay was noticeably smoother and lacked the stuttering we saw with the _______" just grab a card and be happy about it. unless your only goal is to say "mine is faster than yours" 😛 then just play the game it "wins" at and stick to your pseudo victory.

the other thing you are missing is dx 12 itself. it is not a single thing that has a list of features and every game uses them. there is a list of options and a developer can pick and chose what to use. async is only a single option among dozens. some will use it, some won't. so not every future game, even when dx12 is the norm, will favor amd. look at dx11. amd wins some, nvidia wins others. it's still a version of dx and developers still get to chose what features they use. game engine is also a factor as are a number of other things beyond simple dx version.
 


Highly doubtful, not the near future. Remember, game companies exist to make money, so if DX12 is going to be a huge pain in the rear for them to develop for, why would they put the extra money and resources into making their game DX12 when instead they could earn more profit making it DX11? DX12 is out, it's been out for a significant amount of time, and we have three games for it so far: Ashes, Hitman, and Tomb Raider. Two of those games are quite heavily AMD biased, and Tomb Raider gets worse FPS on DX12 than in DX11.

The GTX 1080 actually does very well in Ashes of Singularity. There are upcoming DX12 games like Battlefield 1, so surely it is going to become more adopted, but it probably won't reach DX11 adoption until 2017. But you are right in that DX12 games numbers are increasing.
 
Oh i see so nvidia is having problems with async compute but not with dx12.
So even when dx12 becomes the standar, thats doesnt mean that every game uses async compute and harm nvidia.
Right?
Thank you.
 


Near future? No. Eventually, perhaps. Look back to when DX10 was supposed to be the future, even now DX11 is only just being used more than DX9.0c and as has already been pointed out Async Compute is just ONE of the DX12 feature list, it is not the ENTIRE DX12 feature list.
 
980 Ti prices have sneaked back up since I posted them dropping a couple of days ago. They probably know the 1000 series custom cards are not coming for a while.

You know they said that the chip manufacturers are having trouble producing the chip, like that webpage reported it was. It might always be slow, with on and off sales.

Whatever though, the prices are the worst right now, so we gotta hope they will come down. However if supply remains slow, prices will always be high. (Damn I a being pessimistic.)
 



980ti went down €10 for the cheapest variant.
at least here: http://geizhals.eu/?cat=gra16_512&asd=on&asuch=gtx980ti&sort=p
 


Not a Monopoly. There is no single vendor out there pushing prices up; there are at least 5 and it doesn't even classify as a Oligopoly. It's just an effect on demand vs offer, nothing less, nothing more.

Cheers!
 
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