I deleted the post. The first one didn't mention Nvidia and this is the Nvidia thread. I think you need to read up on the 480 power issues though.
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Tell you what I noticed happening with 1080 vids where benchmarks are shown. Many of the Youtube reviewers have stopped showing results for either of the previous generation 980 or 970. Whereas the reviews many seem to show are inlcuding 980 Ti, and different versions of the 1080 like an FE.
Whereas most of us want the 1080/1070 compared with cards we own. I am not trying to open up a case for people to say they own the 980 Ti etc. However the 970 was vastly more popular so you'd think that would be on every benchmark for the 1080.
Whereas most of us want the 1080/1070 compared with cards we own. I am not trying to open up a case for people to say they own the 980 Ti etc. However the 970 was vastly more popular so you'd think that would be on every benchmark for the 1080.
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considering it is well established how the FE 1070 and 1080 compares to the older 970/80 cards, i don't think it is necessary anymore to add them in. we're looking more now as to whether any of the cards will be able to pull away from any of the other 1070/80 cards. the answer so far is no, they won't be able to. so knowing that the FE is so many % better than older 970/80 and the custom cards get like literally only a few more fps. some VERY simple math will easily tell you how it compares to a 970 or 980. how close are all the cards? well if this leaves any doubt in your mind, then you're not really paying attention anymore!!
from the new seahawk review here http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-sea-hawk-x-review,1.html feel free to click on any other game to see the same results. or pick any other site that has reviewed multiple cards to see the same results when comparing the cards.
here's another big test involving a bunch of 1080 cards https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/geforce-gtx-1080-partnerkarten-vergleich-test/ it's in german but the graphs are easy to read. clear winner on power draw and temps but performance was almost the same for each card.
from the new seahawk review here http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-sea-hawk-x-review,1.html feel free to click on any other game to see the same results. or pick any other site that has reviewed multiple cards to see the same results when comparing the cards.
here's another big test involving a bunch of 1080 cards https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/geforce-gtx-1080-partnerkarten-vergleich-test/ it's in german but the graphs are easy to read. clear winner on power draw and temps but performance was almost the same for each card.
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yes stock settings but i can tell you for sure after having read all these reviews that overclocking may add another 4-5 fps to each card. they all still fall right in line like this and perform the same!! every card oc's to the same levels and just adds a couple to the fps but still no card pulls away from the others.
it's a new world for the nvidia gpu and overclocking is basically not gonna be worth doing right now for the pascal cards. it is not bad chips but rather how good the boost technology is. it already monitors the card and adjusts the clocks on the fly after considering the power and thermals of the card. they've just made the oc of the card automatic now so we don't have to do it ourselves. overall, this is a good thing but it's gonna take a while for folks to learn about the new features and stop applying the old card features to the new cards
it's a new world for the nvidia gpu and overclocking is basically not gonna be worth doing right now for the pascal cards. it is not bad chips but rather how good the boost technology is. it already monitors the card and adjusts the clocks on the fly after considering the power and thermals of the card. they've just made the oc of the card automatic now so we don't have to do it ourselves. overall, this is a good thing but it's gonna take a while for folks to learn about the new features and stop applying the old card features to the new cards
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yes stock settings but i can tell you for sure after having read all these reviews that overclocking may add another 4-5 fps to each card. they all still fall right in line like this and perform the same!! every card oc's to the same levels and just adds a couple to the fps but still no card pulls away from the others.
it's a new world for the nvidia gpu and overclocking is basically not gonna be worth doing right now for the pascal cards. it is not bad chips but rather how good the boost technology is. it already monitors the card and adjusts the clocks on the fly after considering the power and thermals of the card. they've just made the oc of the card automatic now so we don't have to do it ourselves. overall, this is a good thing but it's gonna take a while for folks to learn about the new features and stop applying the old card features to the new cards
it's a new world for the nvidia gpu and overclocking is basically not gonna be worth doing right now for the pascal cards. it is not bad chips but rather how good the boost technology is. it already monitors the card and adjusts the clocks on the fly after considering the power and thermals of the card. they've just made the oc of the card automatic now so we don't have to do it ourselves. overall, this is a good thing but it's gonna take a while for folks to learn about the new features and stop applying the old card features to the new cards
Not really, this falls in line pretty well with previous generations. Sometimes binning matters more or less than the previous generation, but quite often all the cards clock about the same given that you max out the cooling on each card. What you're paying for with add-in boards is better cooling and better longevity (at least in theory). From my memory, most Geforce 8800 GT cards tended to clock about the same speed, GTX 640 too, those are just ones I can recall off the top of my head. I've noticed a number of people only comparing the 10 series cards to the previous generation and saying how everything is different. This is just not reasonable because Nvidia is on what? the 20th GPU generation from them at this point.
It's mostly dependent on how close the stock clocks are the to the maximum potential of the GPU design. This time around the stock clock is about 300Mhz off the maximum achievable frequency of most GPUs. Frankly, it's amazing that they've gotten them to clock up to nearly 2000mhz on the new process. I honestly wasn't expecting that, neither was AMD.
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Quixit :
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yes stock settings but i can tell you for sure after having read all these reviews that overclocking may add another 4-5 fps to each card. they all still fall right in line like this and perform the same!! every card oc's to the same levels and just adds a couple to the fps but still no card pulls away from the others.
it's a new world for the nvidia gpu and overclocking is basically not gonna be worth doing right now for the pascal cards. it is not bad chips but rather how good the boost technology is. it already monitors the card and adjusts the clocks on the fly after considering the power and thermals of the card. they've just made the oc of the card automatic now so we don't have to do it ourselves. overall, this is a good thing but it's gonna take a while for folks to learn about the new features and stop applying the old card features to the new cards
it's a new world for the nvidia gpu and overclocking is basically not gonna be worth doing right now for the pascal cards. it is not bad chips but rather how good the boost technology is. it already monitors the card and adjusts the clocks on the fly after considering the power and thermals of the card. they've just made the oc of the card automatic now so we don't have to do it ourselves. overall, this is a good thing but it's gonna take a while for folks to learn about the new features and stop applying the old card features to the new cards
Not really, this falls in line pretty well with previous generations. Sometimes binning matters more or less than the previous generation, but quite often all the cards clock about the same given that you max out the cooling on each card. What you're paying for with add-in boards is better cooling and better longevity (at least in theory). From my memory, most Geforce 8800 GT cards tended to clock about the same speed, GTX 640 too, those are just ones I can recall off the top of my head. I've noticed a number of people only comparing the 10 series cards to the previous generation and saying how everything is different. This is just not reasonable because Nvidia is on what? the 20th GPU generation from them at this point.
It's mostly dependent on how close the stock clocks are the to the maximum potential of the GPU design. This time around the stock clock is about 300Mhz off the maximum achievable frequency of most GPUs. Frankly, it's amazing that they've gotten them to clock up to nearly 2000mhz on the new process. I honestly wasn't expecting that, neither was AMD.
There never was a GTX640 IIRC.
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New NON-RUMORS of the GTX 1060: http://videocardz.com/61780/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-rumors-part-1
What's cool is that there will not be a GTX 1060 ti, but rather the GTX 1060 will possibly have two completely different variants. The 3GB will NOT support SLI and use a different GP chip while the 6GB model will support SLI and uses a different GP chip.
What's cool is that there will not be a GTX 1060 ti, but rather the GTX 1060 will possibly have two completely different variants. The 3GB will NOT support SLI and use a different GP chip while the 6GB model will support SLI and uses a different GP chip.
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the nice thing is right now there seems to be a clear separation of cards and performance. will be less of the "390 v 970 or 280 v 960" type stuff we have seen before. seems like right now there will be distinct performance levels at distinct prices. at least for now. makes it a lot easier to pick a card 😀
460--470--480--1060--1070--1080 all at slightly rising prices. at least until nvidia decides to drop a 1050 model if they are going to.
460--470--480--1060--1070--1080 all at slightly rising prices. at least until nvidia decides to drop a 1050 model if they are going to.
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They should just call the 3gb 1060 a 1050 then, this "minor variant" thing is too confusing for most consumers.
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Agree. But if the performance is not off by much and just the vRAM halved then it does make sense. Like RX480 8&4GB
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The 1060 will run on a 192-bit memory interface bus. That is only divisible evenly by 3 and 6 for an even amount of memory modules to be placed on the PCB (on the top anyway). Now 8 will go into 192 evenly (24), but that would be a waste on a 192-bit bus as it would choke that 8GB down as 8GB of VRAM needs at least a 256-bit bus to get full use of it. Never mind 8GB on it would raise the price of the 1060 even more and send it into the no-man's land of $330 or so, getting dangerously close to the non-FE 1070 territory when those prices and supply finally stabilize back to normal.
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I found this top comment posted on one of jays videos the other day, quite interesting!
Team Green:
GTX 1080 Ti = SLI 980 Ti = $749
GTX 1080 > Titan X = $600
GTX 1070 > Titan X = $379
GTX 1060 > 980 = $249/$300
GTX 1050 > 970 = $159 to $199
Team Red:
RX 490x = Titan X = $449 to $499
RX 490 = GTX 980 = $299 to $349
RX 480 = GTX 970 = $199/$$239
RX 470 = GTX 960 = $149 to $169
RX 460 = GTX 950 = $99 to $129
When I think of graphics card quality Nvidia is a Lamborghini and AMD is a Honda Civic Pros/Cons:
NVIDIA: Ansel SMP Single pass in pipeline for VR Quiet Cool Power Efficient Good driver support on newer cards Drivers improver performance over time Bad driver support for older cards Premium pricetag (you get what you pay for)
AMD: VR premium (not sure what that is) Cheaper cards (price to performance) Crossfire 480s beat GTX 1080 at a cheaper price(in supported games) Loud Hot Not as power efficient as hoped Expensive in certain countries Better async performance Drivers get better over time
*NOT STARTING A FLAME WAR!!* MEANT AS A MEANS OF NOTING FUTURE PRICEPOINTS FOR OTHER POTENTIAL CARDS
Having said all that, the verdict is buy the single best card you can afford as i keep hearing. For me, until more cards become available and these prices SLOWLY come down over the next 6 months- a year i will be in the 1050-1060 range.
Team Green:
GTX 1080 Ti = SLI 980 Ti = $749
GTX 1080 > Titan X = $600
GTX 1070 > Titan X = $379
GTX 1060 > 980 = $249/$300
GTX 1050 > 970 = $159 to $199
Team Red:
RX 490x = Titan X = $449 to $499
RX 490 = GTX 980 = $299 to $349
RX 480 = GTX 970 = $199/$$239
RX 470 = GTX 960 = $149 to $169
RX 460 = GTX 950 = $99 to $129
When I think of graphics card quality Nvidia is a Lamborghini and AMD is a Honda Civic Pros/Cons:
NVIDIA: Ansel SMP Single pass in pipeline for VR Quiet Cool Power Efficient Good driver support on newer cards Drivers improver performance over time Bad driver support for older cards Premium pricetag (you get what you pay for)
AMD: VR premium (not sure what that is) Cheaper cards (price to performance) Crossfire 480s beat GTX 1080 at a cheaper price(in supported games) Loud Hot Not as power efficient as hoped Expensive in certain countries Better async performance Drivers get better over time
*NOT STARTING A FLAME WAR!!* MEANT AS A MEANS OF NOTING FUTURE PRICEPOINTS FOR OTHER POTENTIAL CARDS
Having said all that, the verdict is buy the single best card you can afford as i keep hearing. For me, until more cards become available and these prices SLOWLY come down over the next 6 months- a year i will be in the 1050-1060 range.
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