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Yeah, but for all I (we?) hate the FE shenanigan, it's not an "illegal" move, since the vendors are not forced to follow suit. Now, why would vendors choose *not* to follow suit to win extra *free* money? I really don't know, haha. Even more when people is actually *buying* them.

It's hard to rationalize, but like I said, it's just a market(ing?) thing. You can sell something your competition offers at any price point you want above cost. If people buys it, it is not something illegal on your part, unless you are coerced or something like that, which I would not think is the case for this mess.

Cheers!
 


Uhm... I get from where you're coming, but companies don't really care for us "gamers". They care first on ROI (return of investment) and other fancy metrics that say "this is good business for the investors".

Companies are not benevolent "beings" or institutions. They are ruthless well oiled machines that will take your money on each chance they get, haha. For this particular case, nVidia is just leveraging his brand image to secure extra money and third parties are cashing in on it as well. Supply issues not-withstanding, they are way above MSRP because people is actually buying them, so you can blame your fellow gamers willing to pay those prices than the companies offering them. Yeah, it's weird, but that is the way I see it at least.

Cheers!
 
Every thing you buy is priced based on supply and demand, I blame the relaters mainly. The last gen cards I am sure some OEMs have to many in stock so need to get rid of them fast before they are unsellable against newer cards whilst other are low enough to wait. As for the FEs they basically made a good quality reference design and over priced it to favour the OEMs own versions as they are essential to Nvidia this is a slight deviation from most past cards where the reference model was a cheap just about good enough design and was the cheapest, its only perceived as anti consumer due to lack of non reference models for sale and there high prices.
 
thanks for the heads up on the review. hopefully this means we can start seeing the card in stores. :)

i am a little sad to see it verified that this is an FE pcb and not one of the better ones MSI has. i thought it was but could not verify it yet. but it runs VERY cool and quiet for sure. and it oc's pretty well despite being based on the FE card.
 
Until they are released, we can only say the RX 480 doesn't compete with the 1070 nor 1080.

Now, nVidia is in a good position and there is no doubt about it. AMD better take this time to sell as many 480s as it can and hope the partners marvel us with mind blowing performance and designs.

Cheers!
 
now this looks VERY promising http://videocardz.com/61743/gigabyte-announces-geforce-gtx-1070-mini-itx-oc

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I think it will compete with both the 1050 and the 1060. As the RX 480 is most likely going to have performance in between both of those cards.
 
Yeah maybe but problem is that these small cards with tiny coolers are usually really loud under load. And in small itx cases with bad airflow they get too hot, so you're better off with a blower-design card in those (if they fit). But it's a nice solution if you have only room for a small <20cm card and if the case still provides some decent airflow for it.
 
i cannot wait for the 1050/1060 and hopefully a ti version would be nice..

this is potentially the price range im aiming to be in if/when there released.

although come holiday depending on whats out a 1070/1080 will always do 😀

 


Basic law of Supply/Demand still applies. Supply is low, demand is high, and if people are willing to pay $2000 to get a product NOW, then frankly, companies are economically justified selling it at that price. That's how Capitalism works.
 
GTX 1060 looks promising. I'm backing in the reference GTX 1060 6GB to beat the reference GTX 480 8GB by a small margin of around 5-10%, without the PCIe overload issues that come from a small overclock on the 480.

However custom RX 480 vs custom GTX 1060 should be a much more interesting battle. I'm keen to see what an 8-pin version of RX 480 with a better cooler can actually do.
Will hopefully make for some very competitive prices for the mainstream in a couple of months when stock settles down.
 
The AMD 480 reviewed by Jayz2Cents. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRDgiWBfs5I

Apparently a fraction under the performance of the GTX 970. I guess that means the NVidia GTX 1060 will comfortably beat it. The 1070 and 1080 are far off from it then; like dust. (I added I saw this since lots of folk were speculating the 480 comparative to 1000 series NVidia performance.) Although the 970 he compared it with was an EVGA SSC (super-super-clocked).

He does say however that the 480 overclocks extensively. Given that I read the 480 is made in 14nm FinFET, I was surprised since the 1080 (in 16nm) reports minimal overclocking.

Anyway I posted on this before. However I don't know if I must have hit the post button right.


(EDIT: I did also see someone say they saw X-fire 480s equal the 1080 for considerably less money. I'd still rather have a single card (1080) though, at the right price like a year from now at least. Haha.)
 
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