Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[rcald2000]

@turkey3_scratch My understanding from all the rumors is that the 1080 Ti will have a 225 watt TDP, as opposed to the 980 Ti's 250 watt TDP. I know that's a measure of heat and not power consumption, but I sincerely hope that rumor is true. It would be nice to have consumption go down, even if just by 25 watts.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

@turkey3_scratch My understanding from all the rumors is that the 1080 Ti will have a 225 watt TDP, as opposed to the 980 Ti's 250 watt TDP. I know that's a measure of heat and not power consumption, but I sincerely hope that rumor is true. It would be nice to have consumption go down, even if just by 25 watts.

Currently the GTX 1080 has higher power requirements than the GTX 980, so we will see. It seems like Nvidia went for more performance this time around rather than raw efficiency. From my totally non-biased opinion, I think Polaris will have lower power requirements than Pascal by a good margin.

 

[Math Geek]

there is a reason they focused on power usage based off the titan x and not the card it is supposed to replace

the extra performance is nice the high clock speeds seem to imply more of a brute force approach rather than a more elegant approach. per watt performance still looks good though so far.

 

[Bossyfins]

^ Power efficiency won't let AMD make money. Performance will be the key factor. So, yes polaris might have better power, but its performance is the deciding factor.

 

[TechyInAZ]

For those who missed the live stream yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfyG_xLwNyY

 

[turkey3_scratch]

^ Power efficiency won't let AMD make money. Performance will be the key factor. So, yes polaris might have better power, but its performance is the deciding factor.

AMD is going to price their same-performing cards the same price as Nvidia. And they'll probably require less power at that same price and same performance.

Cards are always priced competitively based on performance. You won't find a card being $50 less than another card and performing better - just doesn't happen.

 

[Math Geek]

and based on what we have been hearing for the last few years now, lower power consumption trumps all. 390 does better than a 970? yah but the 970 uses less power.

280 does a touch better than a 960? yah but the 960 uses little power. and so on and so on. so we'll just go with the whole "power consumption don't matter if it performs well" kind of idea like the last few years did not happen since it looks like amd might be on the lower power usage side this time 😀

i feel that performance is the most important thing but it is VERY obvious that i am in a very small minority on that topic.

 

[TheNewPCGuy]

The 1080 looks absolutely insane. All that power and nearly half the price of a Titan X... oh baby.

Come on AMD! Give us something to drool over, otherwise I might be purchasing my first Nvidia card.

 

[Math Geek]

i'm liking the 1070 myself but now have to begin not so patiently waiting for whatever amd is gonna do with polaris

 

[Deleted member 217926]

My 980 Ti lets me max everything at 1440p. Since I just upgraded to both the 980 Ti and the 1440p screen last year I'll probably skip these and wait until the big card with HBM is released before I consider upgrading. Then maybe I'll look at adopting VR as well.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

and based on what we have been hearing for the last few years now, lower power consumption trumps all. 390 does better than a 970? yah but the 970 uses less power.

280 does a touch better than a 960? yah but the 960 uses little power. and so on and so on. so we'll just go with the whole "power consumption don't matter if it performs well" kind of idea like the last few years did not happen since it looks like amd might be on the lower power usage side this time 😀

i feel that performance is the most important thing but it is VERY obvious that i am in a very small minority on that topic.

It'll be interesting to see Nvidia at the other side of that table. A common argument for Maxwell is "lower power" - and now if Polaris requires a lot less power than Pascal, it's going to be, "Oh, power doesn't matter at all, performance only does".

 

[Jonathan Cave]

I sold my 980 Ti a few weeks back pending 10x series launch because i was getting 35-40fps ultra in games. e.g. the division.

I want to play games @ 60fps 4k Gsync ultra.

I was going to wait for 1080 ti however 2 x 1070's in SLI might be tempting and at $379 per card its actually viable. All speculation at this stage, i'll want to see some benchmarks first and see what custom PCB's / Aftermarket cooling solutions look like. Perhaps nvidia cracked the cooler (not literally) this time.

 

[msproject251]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from msproject251 : "gtx 1080 founders edition?"

What is the difference between the nornal 1080 and the 1080 founders edition?

 

[Mousemonkey]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from ninisapoel : "Gtx 1080 ti"

Is the GTX 1080 OC edition the new TI or will there be a TI later on?

 

[Math Geek]

we are assuming that there will be a separate 1080 ti model but that is still rumor and that's all. later this year is all we can guess for this card and a new titan as well.

as for the founder edition they really did not specify but i believe it was said last night that it would have the better binned gpu's for better overclocking ability. they will cherry pick the best processors for the more expensive model. this is not unusual and expected.


@turkey, already seeing the back peddling on that issue and we don't even have any official specs for polaris. does make me laugh knowing it is coming from the nvidia fans and getting to watch it unfold.

 

[Mousemonkey]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Avik Garain : "Pascal GTX 960"

Hello to all. I want to buy a GTX 960 during mid-late July or August. Will the Pascal architecture GTX 960 be released by that time? If it's so, how much increase in performance (and price too, lol) can I expect from the same model of card? Also, will the price of current Maxwell GTX 960 decrease? Please help me out with your best educated guesses.

current estimate by nvidia is that 1080 is twice as fast as titan X costing at 599usd or so. (this has not been verified by any benchmarks so take it with grain of salt)
based on the fact that new cards will outperform older ones like 2 to 3 times and cost LESS than current top models, yes, 960 prices will drop?
since gtx1070 will come out in june/july, I don't think 1060 would come out at same time.

how much prices will drop? good question, I myself will wait and see.

1060/1060 ti has not been given a release date (if that's what you're asking? the 960 isn't on Pascal, it's Maxwell) as far as I know. I believe the only two given a definitive launch date last night were the 1070 and 1080.

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40594-third-gp104-sku-could-be-the-gtx-1060-ti
if the leaks are right the 1060ti have 6g of ddr5 ram and a 192 bit bus. and a cut down 1070 gpu chip.
myself if the new gpu is in the 200-250.00 at lanch that wont be a bad price point.

 

[Michael Trenton]

I'm glad I decided to not buy the 980Ti and wait for this keynote before doing anything. I think I will definitely be getting the 1080.
Does anyone know what date to realistically expect a STRIX Version of the 1080 to release?

 

[Deleted member 217926]

It took me a month after the 980 Ti was released to find one in stock. With the 1080 using GDDR5X and GDDR5X being in short supply it could be several months before the non reference cards are available at all and longer before they are readily available.

 

[Michael Trenton]

It took me a month after the 980 Ti was released to find one in stock. With the 1080 using GDDR5X and GDDR5X being in short supply it could be several months before the non reference cards are available at all and longer before they are readily available.

That long? Ah well. Maybe I ought to settle for a 980Ti Strix after all then? Price is sure to drop once 1080 hits the market I guess.

Because here is my one worry about the 1080 that I didn't think about at all when watching the presentation; It has 2560 CUDA cores. The 980Ti has 2816 cores (TITAN X has 3072 cores).
Does the lower number of CUDA cores mean that the 1080 will be a weaker card for CUDA rendering and acceleration in programs like Premiere Pro etc?

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Have to wait for the benchmarks and see.

 

[Mousemonkey]

It took me a month after the 980 Ti was released to find one in stock. With the 1080 using GDDR5X and GDDR5X being in short supply it could be several months before the non reference cards are available at all and longer before they are readily available.

That long? Ah well. Maybe I ought to settle for a 980Ti Strix after all then? Price is sure to drop once 1080 hits the market I guess.

Because here is my one worry about the 1080 that I didn't think about at all when watching the presentation; It has 2560 CUDA cores. The 980Ti has 2816 cores (TITAN X has 3072 cores).
Does the lower number of CUDA cores mean that the 1080 will be a weaker card for CUDA rendering and acceleration in programs like Premiere Pro etc?

You're comparing core counts of two different architectures,

 

[Michael Trenton]

^Please forgive my ignorance as I'm no expert on these things. So it shouldn't matter too much then?

Have to wait for the benchmarks and see.

Yes, I guess I'll need to be patient and wait. Still, it's a bit weird that they've decreased the number of CUDA cores from the 980Ti isn't it?

 

[Justin Millard]

So glad to be proven wrong by Nvidia in so many things when it came to Pascal. So glad they upped the core count and found a way to bring GDDR5X to the market in the first half of the year. GTX 1080 can noticeably beat Gtx 980 Ti and Titan X as well which is awesome. Hats off to Nvidia.

However we still don't know much about the 1070. It will easily beat the 980, but I dont think we can say for certain that it will beat Titan X and 980 Ti until we see the core count. My quick guess is the 1070 will have similar core count to the 980 and be about level in performance with 980 Ti and Titan X. I don't think it will noticeably beat them in real world gaming. Still incredibly exciting, and we still have the final specs reveal to look forward to.

I am very impressed by this series and happy to be surprised by Nvidia again.

 

[Mousemonkey]

So glad to be proven wrong by Nvidia in so many things when it came to Pascal. So glad they upped the core count and found a way to bring GDDR5X to the market in the first half of the year. GTX 1080 can noticeably beat Gtx 980 Ti and Titan X as well which is awesome. Hats off to Nvidia.

However we still don't know much about the 1070. It will easily beat the 980, but I dont think we can say for certain that it will beat Titan X and 980 Ti until we see the core count. My quick guess is the 1070 will have similar core count to the 980 and be about level in performance with 980 Ti and Titan X. I don't think it will noticeably beat them in real world gaming. Still incredibly exciting, and we still have the final specs reveal to look forward to.

I am very impressed by this series and happy to be surprised by Nvidia again.

I can't help wondering why people get so hung up on core counts, comparing core counts across different architectures has never really worked as a way of measuring performance.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

^Please forgive my ignorance as I'm no expert on these things. So it shouldn't matter too much then?

Have to wait for the benchmarks and see.

Yes, I guess I'll need to be patient and wait. Still, it's a bit weird that they've decreased the number of CUDA cores from the 980Ti isn't it?

No. The 1080 replaces the 980. The 980 Ti replacement will be late this year or early next year and will have HBM 2.