Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[Deleted member 217926]

So glad to be proven wrong by Nvidia in so many things when it came to Pascal. So glad they upped the core count and found a way to bring GDDR5X to the market in the first half of the year. GTX 1080 can noticeably beat Gtx 980 Ti and Titan X as well which is awesome. Hats off to Nvidia.

However we still don't know much about the 1070. It will easily beat the 980, but I dont think we can say for certain that it will beat Titan X and 980 Ti until we see the core count. My quick guess is the 1070 will have similar core count to the 980 and be about level in performance with 980 Ti and Titan X. I don't think it will noticeably beat them in real world gaming. Still incredibly exciting, and we still have the final specs reveal to look forward to.

I am very impressed by this series and happy to be surprised by Nvidia again.

I can't help wondering why people get so hung up on core counts, comparing core counts across different architectures has never really worked as a way of measuring performance.

^ This. Apples to oranges.

 

[Math Geek]

if you recall in the presentation, it was said that the 1070 beat the titan x. so even if by a little bit that is still real impressive for a $380 card!! looking forward to some benchmarks to see what it does with 4k resolution. even reduced settings but playable 4k is pretty impressive for the low cost compared to what you pay now for passable 4k

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I'm sure we'll have our lovely Titan variant only to be trumped by the way cheaper 1080Ti again. I'd expect a Titan variant first, that's how Nvidia makes their money.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

if you recall in the presentation, it was said that the 1070 beat the titan x. so even if by a little bit that is still real impressive for a $350 card!! looking forward to some benchmarks to see what it does with 4k resolution. even reduced settings but playable 4k is pretty impressive for the low cost compared to what you pay now for passable 4k

They might only mean in VR applications by that statement, though. Even their graphs were strictly about VR performance, which will have an edge due to their VR optimizations.

 

[Math Geek]

very true a lot of the information was rather cryptic. some of it not sure at all what it applied to other than it sounded impressive.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I really want to buy a new GPU, but I just have to wait for Polaris and see what it brings.

 

[Math Geek]

i was planning on 2 new builds closer to black friday sales so was gonna wait anyway. but now it seems like the prudent choice so we can get all the various cards and specs sorted out at least for the initial cards released. by then the dust will have settled a bunch and cooler heads can prevail. sure is fun to get into the hype and lose yourself but in the end i am too picky and won't impulse buy something like this. was hoping to make one sff gamer for my desk so hope they make some smaller mini cards by then. wanna try my hand and super small yet powerful build.

 

[ern88]

I agree. I'm waiting for AMD's offering and real game benchmarks. Not Nvidia's propaganda info.

 

[Math Geek]

amd's propaganda will be just as fun to watch. i'm betting on something like "3X the performance at 1/4th the power" since they got a lot of extra power usage they can shed to get down to what pascal is at. will be watching that pr circus with a grain of salt as well

 

[ern88]

I am not buying any of the 2 GPUs makers propaganda till both have products released and benchmarks are out.

 

[Jonathan Cave]

Both AMD and Nvidia post heavily biased 'hand picked' games and video settings results - whatever will result in a win.

Personally im really interested to see AdoredTV's benchmarks or some other unbiased reviews. I wonder how much say nvidia/amd has in tech sites such as Toms/Anandtech/guru3d/overclockers etc... etc...

 

[cdabc123]

anyone know when they plan on releasing the tesla P100? if its before the titan and its a live card we should be able to hard mod it into a card that appears as a titan with a full p100 chip and 16 gigs hbm2 mem right?

 

[TheConsiderateIlliterate]

Anyone know the ropes about pre orders? Sounds like these are going to sell out ASAP at launch.

 

[detroitwillfall]

id be perfectly happy with the cheapest entry into the new gen. I only have 1080p monitor so makes no sense really to go beyond maybe 1060/1060ti unless 1070 price to performance is close. at the estimated roughly $100-$140 more, time will tell

 

[detroitwillfall]

i was planning on 2 new builds closer to black friday sales so was gonna wait anyway. but now it seems like the prudent choice so we can get all the various cards and specs sorted out at least for the initial cards released. by then the dust will have settled a bunch and cooler heads can prevail. sure is fun to get into the hype and lose yourself but in the end i am too picky and won't impulse buy something like this. was hoping to make one sff gamer for my desk so hope they make some smaller mini cards by then. wanna try my hand and super small yet powerful build.

exactly my thoughts, blackfriday, holiday times will surely allow some direction as to a clear front runner on price/performance and best bang for buck.

 

[Mousemonkey]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Shadow6822 : "GTX 1080 PSU requirements?"

I currently own an i7 4790k and a gtx 960. During the summer, I plan on picking up a gtx 1070 or 80 depending on if my psu can handle it. My current one gives out 500 Watts and I was wondering if this would be enough to support one of these new cards. I have seen that 500 is enough online, but i just want to make sure that my PC receives "clean power" and will not shut off while on it. Thanks.

a 600-650w quality power supply.

 

[renz496]

Lol i still remember when people refusing to get kepler and prefer to get fermi (gtx580) instead for their work because they believe kepler are weak in anything compute related because of nvidia decision for kepler design. When kepler was new that might be the case but as software being tuned to take advantage of new architecture feature the new architecture will end up with better performance.

@cdabc123

Even if it is possible to hard mod tesla P100 how to bench it with 3d application?

 

[cdabc123]

Lol i still remember when people refusing to get kepler and prefer to get fermi (gtx580) instead for their work because they believe kepler are weak in anything compute related because of nvidia decision for kepler design. When kepler was new that might be the case but as software being tuned to take advantage of new architecture feature the new architecture will end up with better performance.

@cdabc123

Even if it is possible to hard mod tesla P100 how to bench it with 3d application?

if its a live card their shouldnt be too much of a issue with that

 

[renz496]

Well to begin with there is no video output for tesla P100. Ultimately you need motherboard design specifically for tesla P100 since the card were using Nvlink replacing the standrard PCIE interface for regular graphic card.

 

[Michael Trenton]

Lol i still remember when people refusing to get kepler and prefer to get fermi (gtx580) instead for their work because they believe kepler are weak in anything compute related because of nvidia decision for kepler design.

I'm guilty of this. Please judge me. 😉

In fact that GTX 580 is still my current GPU so that's why I'm badly in need of a new card. Yeah, I haven't bought a new card in years so I'm really gonna splurge on the best this time.

^Please forgive my ignorance as I'm no expert on these things. So it shouldn't matter too much then?

Have to wait for the benchmarks and see.

Yes, I guess I'll need to be patient and wait. Still, it's a bit weird that they've decreased the number of CUDA cores from the 980Ti isn't it?

No. The 1080 replaces the 980. The 980 Ti replacement will be late this year or early next year and will have HBM 2.

Oh, okay. Thanks. Is there any real indication the Ti will be released already this year though? Seems most people here expect it to release this year, but checking wikipedia the original 980 was released September 18th 2014 and the 980Ti June 2nd 2015. That's approx nine months between the two cards. And if the new Titan gets released during second half this year Nvidia may not wanna repeat their 'mistake' of releasing another Ti card too close to the Titan. IDK. I would like to hold off and wait for the 1080Ti, but as long as I have no idea if that wait is gonna be a five months or a ten month wait then I'm not that comfortable waiting tbh. I could always buy a cheaper card and use that in the meantime I guess.

 

[TheConsiderateIlliterate]

Do you think non reference cards will be priced closer to the Founders Edition price point?

 

[Math Geek]

Do you think non reference cards will be priced closer to the Founders Edition price point?

i'd say that is a likely thing to happen. reference cards now are the cheaper ones most of the time and i don't expect that to end with these new cards. no one really knows what the difference is between the 2 reference cards but non reference cards are always a bit more expensive they are totally custom for the most part. but actual pricing is anyone's guess at this point. hopefully we'll get some 1080 prices soon and can make some educated guesses at what the other models might cost. it's also possible that amd moves in with their news cards and prices them in such a way that nvidia has no choice but to match. it's happened before and will probably happen again. jumping in right now while the hype is high and there is no amd competition will surely lead to higher prices than we'll see a few months from now.

i am seeing some rumors that non reference boards will also be available on may 27th so i suspect we may see some reviews and benchmarks of those models as well before they show up in stores. rumor is 17th for the nda to expire so we may see a bunch of different models exposed on that day. i sure hope so, we'll get a big picture of what will be available then. more rumors suggesting pre-orders should go live around that time as well, perhaps before. but these are only rumors right now

 

[maxalge]

Do you think non reference cards will be priced closer to the Founders Edition price point?

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I think they will probably be higher, they usually start out higher, then gradually eventually go lower than the reference cards, but not at first.

There's no way I'm buying any reference card, and there's no way I'm buying anything before the Polaris announcement.

I think the GTX 970/980 had reference cards right away.

 

[rcald2000]

Does the "Founders" edition card, simply mean Reference?