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Do both strix models of the 1060 not have the eye light up? or is it just the non-oc version? i was reading one review and it said just the 1070/1080 but was hoping that that just applied to the non-oc model..
 
i assume you mean the eye on the backplate of the card? reviews say it does not light up and the product page does not show it lighting up like it does for the 1070/80 cards.

so i don't think it does light up for the 1060 models. guess it's part of the extra cost of the more expensive cards.
 


ahh i see, well certainly not a make or break detail and definitely not worth the choice over a 1060+ alone.. however i guess thats why they say by the best single card you can afford. lol

 
NVidia has announced the high end Pascal Quadros. http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-graphics-with-pascal.html

Two other interesting leaks are making the rounds. The first is an interesting update to the NVidia GPU Roadmap. The claim is that Volta is a next year 14nm chip, vice a 2018 10nm chip.

The second is a specsheet for the 1080Ti without a release date. 3328 shaders with 8GByte GDDR5 memory. Notice no GDDR5X memory, which is suspect. The remainder is about as I expected. Around 25% above a 1080 with no price point indicated.
 


That's my thought, as well. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
 
consumer probably won't ever get HBM at all (with nvidia cards)? even AMD seems decided not to stay long with HBM. with navi they will use something new. when AMD show polaris with GDDR5 earlier this year i was making wild assumption that we probably won't see any new card using HBM this year even from the red camp. of course some people will not agree. saying that AMD have spent a lot of R&D developing HBM together with Hynix so it doesn't make sense if their new card not using HBM. the low end will stick to GDDR5 but card with performance of 390 and above should get HBM treatment. so in the end AMD launching RX480 and HBM did not happen on those card.

i think HBM still too costly to implement hence why polaris 10 did not get HBM treatment. AMD usually undercut nvidia pricing but they did not did so with Fury X. and then AMD charge $650 for nano just because the card was tweaked to be more power efficient and having very small form factor. when they did that i was suspecting the HBM forcing AMD to sell their card at such pricing.
 


Interesting for nVidia to push the release one year earlier. Hope this means they suspect/know AMD has something good up their sleeves with Vega.
 
It's possible Nvidia is just reverting back to its original release schedule. The one that had Volta as the successor to Maxwell.

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It's almost impossible not to wonder what's going on.
 
Lot's of possibilities ran through my head when I saw the leak. The first was the life of a processor meme. I don't know how long it takes NVidia to go from a design concept to first silicon, but Intel is on record as saying it takes 5 years, more or less.

If a processor is ready, nothing good happens from waiting. I think Volta was always a 14nm part. That's the first thing I though of. NVidia would have had to have identified the need for Pascal very early in the Volta process to release it first. I certainly don't think NVidia is above some light subterfuge with processor roadmaps and schedules.

My actual opinion is that the present roadmap was always the real thing concerning a successor to Fermi and Kepler.

Once a design is finalized and is ready for taping, every day you wait is a fool's bargain. Waiting on a process that is not ready, when the process that is ready is a sufficing solution makes no business sense. In real business, design dollars and man-hours are no different than production dollars and man-hours. It all has to be paid for by the product. A product that is not for sale makes no money. Business 101.
 
I'd expect a good amount of time before we see newer generations of GPUs from either side. We have Polaris and Pascal, so let's be happy with that. There is no real reason for them to be rushing out new products when people purchase their current ones, that just costs them more money. I'll probably expect 2018 until we see Vega or whatever AMD has coming up. It just seems that nothing gets released on time in the tech world, so that's something I just personally believe, that the release dates will always be way past when people think.
 


just because nvidia talk more detail of volta in GTC2017 it doesn't mean volta will launch in the same year. nvidia first show pascal prototype in GTC 2014 but pascal did not actually launch until mid 2016. still nvidia have contract to fullfill in 2017-2018 time frame with volta (Summit and Sierra). us regular consumer probably will not going to get volta flavor until mid 2018.
 


it is possible nvidia ramping up volta because if intel instead of AMD.
 


i think after the 40nm disaster nvidia start making back up plan. nvidia can design the processor how they want but it is useless if there is no fab can manufacture their design. and for them TSMC is the only fab that capable to manufacture their gpu. they did try looking other such as samsung but samsung doesn not have the expertise and experience making large gpu they need. and after 40nm nvidia also dedicated more of their engineer to work closely with TSMC. i think nvidia know early on that 20nm will be no go for gpu. i think that's how they able to re-tweak maxwell and still releasing maxwell in 2014.
 


i think Vega most likely be 2017 product. i don't think AMD intend to keep Fury X as their top single gpu flagship for three years. even if DX12 can make Fury X truly show it's true capability there is no way they can keep up with nvidia brute force with pascal. just like Fury X AMD most likely waiting for HBM2 to be ready for Vega.
 


I agree. The DX12 and Vulkan titles are not coming out fast enough or in a big enough quantity (yet) for AMD to rely on that factor. They need to more closely match DX11 performance with their flagship cards if they hope to make decent sales at any point in the short and medium term.
 
Based on the updated review of GTX 1070, Founder's Edition GTX 1070 uses surprising amount of power from PEG; the power consumption from PEG hovers around 75W WITHOUT overclocking. That's is above the limit of 65W.

Would the card consume more power from PEG when the card is overclocked and the power limit is lifted? Would there be any long-term stability issue of the motherboard when it is paired with a 1070FE? Why no one ever talks or tests this?

I have seen virtually no any other reviews showing separate power consumption from 6/8-pin connectors and PEG until after RX480 reported the issue two weeks ago.

Does any owners of 1070FE have any experience related to this issue over overclocked and non-overclocked 1070FE and the stability of the motherboard?

I have a workstation with Xeon E3-1276v3 on a ASUS P9D WS motherboard with 32GB of ECC memory. I want to use just this workstation instead of building another one just for gaming, and I have to make sure this PC for work is as stable and durable as possible. I can't afford it to go wrong in any ways. So I have not installed the card since I received it two weeks ago.

Power Consumption Results
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-pascal-performance,4585-7.html
 
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