Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[paulbatzing]

Are there any benchmarks of the 1080 with a couple of cpus at 1080p and 1440p? Because the lead of the 1080 increases with resolution, it seems to me some games might be CPU bound at these resolutions, although that is impossible to say without some good benchmarks.

 

[renz496]

i haven't follow the story closely but they say even the most recent intel CPU (at stock clock) will have slight bottleneck to 1080. personally i'm thinking if we already at that point where even the latest cpu having trouble keeping up with single gpu. ever since sandy intel has been slowing down on their IPC improvement and focus more on power efficiency instead and try to compete with ARM on the mobile space. this slow down on CPU improvement (on performance) also probably one of the reason why nvidia readily ditching 3 way and 4 way SLI.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

 

[James Mason]

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

Depends what GPU you already have. It is kinda tempting at that price.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

Depends what GPU you already have. It is kinda tempting at that price.

I have none right now. Welp, too late; they sold out.

 

[Math Geek]

Are there any benchmarks of the 1080 with a couple of cpus at 1080p and 1440p? Because the lead of the 1080 increases with resolution, it seems to me some games might be CPU bound at these resolutions, although that is impossible to say without some good benchmarks.

i saw one early one for the 1080 with a handful of cpu's. there was no bottleneck if i recall right for i5/7's haswell or skylake. i'll see if i can find that one again. was within a few days of the cards being released so it's been a while now.

 

[renz496]

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

that heatsink reminds me of nvidia reference design heatsink for GTX460.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

that heatsink reminds me of nvidia reference design heatsink for GTX460.

It just doesn't look good. If I look at EVGA's 1060 which is small like the Zotac I feel like it appears to be much better built. Honestly, not sure what I am going to do. I'll probably buy a cheaper graphics card, $100-$130 to be honest. I'll put the rest of the money into an SSD and get rid of my grindy, loud, vibrating WD Blue 1TB.

 

[TehPenguin]

Yeah they sell out pretty quickly. The Palit 1060 that I bought was sold out only hours after I've found it.

 

[renz496]

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

that heatsink reminds me of nvidia reference design heatsink for GTX460.

It just doesn't look good. If I look at EVGA's 1060 which is small like the Zotac I feel like it appears to be much better built. Honestly, not sure what I am going to do. I'll probably buy a cheaper graphics card, $100-$130 to be honest. I'll put the rest of the money into an SSD and get rid of my grindy, loud, vibrating WD Blue 1TB.

as long as it can get the job done. most people probably don't even care about how the card look lol. and the design is intended for mini ITX mobo. and most mini ITX cases don't even have window. for me instead of new GPU i was thinking if i should get new CPU replacing my current 2500K.

 

[mr91]

Are there any benchmarks of the 1080 with a couple of cpus at 1080p and 1440p? Because the lead of the 1080 increases with resolution, it seems to me some games might be CPU bound at these resolutions, although that is impossible to say without some good benchmarks.

i saw one early one for the 1080 with a handful of cpu's. there was no bottleneck if i recall right for i5/7's haswell or skylake. i'll see if i can find that one again. was within a few days of the cards being released so it's been a while now.

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

that heatsink reminds me of nvidia reference design heatsink for GTX460.

It just doesn't look good. If I look at EVGA's 1060 which is small like the Zotac I feel like it appears to be much better built. Honestly, not sure what I am going to do. I'll probably buy a cheaper graphics card, $100-$130 to be honest. I'll put the rest of the money into an SSD and get rid of my grindy, loud, vibrating WD Blue 1TB.

as long as it can get the job done. most people probably don't even care about how the card look lol. and the design is intended for mini ITX mobo. and most mini ITX cases don't even have window. for me instead of new GPU i was thinking if i should get new CPU replacing my current 2500K.

Which CPU do you want to get?

 

[Johnpombrio]

It seems that the new Titan X is overkill for anything resolution under 5K. That is about the only place where it shows a substantial increase in frame rates. One thing that is does do extremely well is consistent in drawing frames with extremely few dropouts (according to the PCPer review). that may be its most important role in sales for 4K and under, terrifically smooth gameplay.

 

[renz496]

Are there any benchmarks of the 1080 with a couple of cpus at 1080p and 1440p? Because the lead of the 1080 increases with resolution, it seems to me some games might be CPU bound at these resolutions, although that is impossible to say without some good benchmarks.

i saw one early one for the 1080 with a handful of cpu's. there was no bottleneck if i recall right for i5/7's haswell or skylake. i'll see if i can find that one again. was within a few days of the cards being released so it's been a while now.

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

that heatsink reminds me of nvidia reference design heatsink for GTX460.

It just doesn't look good. If I look at EVGA's 1060 which is small like the Zotac I feel like it appears to be much better built. Honestly, not sure what I am going to do. I'll probably buy a cheaper graphics card, $100-$130 to be honest. I'll put the rest of the money into an SSD and get rid of my grindy, loud, vibrating WD Blue 1TB.

as long as it can get the job done. most people probably don't even care about how the card look lol. and the design is intended for mini ITX mobo. and most mini ITX cases don't even have window. for me instead of new GPU i was thinking if i should get new CPU replacing my current 2500K.

Which CPU do you want to get?

just thinking to replace it but still not set on what cpu to take. but most likely not CPU from this gen. i want to see how Zen fares as well.

 

[mr91]

Are there any benchmarks of the 1080 with a couple of cpus at 1080p and 1440p? Because the lead of the 1080 increases with resolution, it seems to me some games might be CPU bound at these resolutions, although that is impossible to say without some good benchmarks.

i saw one early one for the 1080 with a handful of cpu's. there was no bottleneck if i recall right for i5/7's haswell or skylake. i'll see if i can find that one again. was within a few days of the cards being released so it's been a while now.

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

that heatsink reminds me of nvidia reference design heatsink for GTX460.

It just doesn't look good. If I look at EVGA's 1060 which is small like the Zotac I feel like it appears to be much better built. Honestly, not sure what I am going to do. I'll probably buy a cheaper graphics card, $100-$130 to be honest. I'll put the rest of the money into an SSD and get rid of my grindy, loud, vibrating WD Blue 1TB.

as long as it can get the job done. most people probably don't even care about how the card look lol. and the design is intended for mini ITX mobo. and most mini ITX cases don't even have window. for me instead of new GPU i was thinking if i should get new CPU replacing my current 2500K.

Which CPU do you want to get?

just thinking to replace it but still not set on what cpu to take. but most likely not CPU from this gen. i want to see how Zen fares as well.

Cool

 

[mr91]

It seems that the new Titan X is overkill for anything resolution under 5K. That is about the only place where it shows a substantial increase in frame rates. One thing that is does do extremely well is consistent in drawing frames with extremely few dropouts (according to the PCPer review). that may be its most important role in sales for 4K and under, terrifically smooth gameplay.

Titan x pascal is Good for 4k 60 or 3440 x 1440 100 hz. Basically if you want to get a 4k Monitor turn up the settings in a game like the Witcher 3 and get close to a solid 60 fps this is the solution at a 500 premium over the gtx 1080.

This card will even benefit 1440p 144 hz and 165 hz monitors...

 

[10tacle]

Titan x pascal is Good for 4k 60 or 3440 x 1440 100 hz. Basically if you want to get a 4k Monitor turn up the settings in a game like the Witcher 3 and get close to a solid 60 fps this is the solution at a 500 premium over the gtx 1080. This card will even benefit 1440p 144 hz and 165 hz monitors...

Exactly. People keep forgetting that G-sync 4K monitors above 60Hz still have yet to be introduced. And there are also those who want to run 3x 1440p which not even SLI 1080s can push at 60+FPS. Even a single 144Hz 1440p G-Sync monitor will not be able to fully utilize SLI 1080s in games like Far Cry 4/Primal and Witcher 3 (meaning running at 144FPS).

I don't think I've ever in nearly 20 years of PC building have come across a period where the latest display technology doesn't keep up with the latest GPU power because the GPU was too powerful.

 

[Ronald_26]

8 left in stock, should I get it? https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600A-10L-GDDR5-Compact/dp/B01IA9FEOO/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470409220&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1060+zotac

Only thing is the heat sink looks kind of mediocre to me, like an Intel stock cooler replica. It also says 6GB VRAM on the product name but the box shows 3GB?

Depends what GPU you already have. It is kinda tempting at that price.

I have none right now. Welp, too late; they sold out.

Try Fry's if there is one close to you. I just picked up a MSI 1060 Armor OC for $279 at the store in Renton WA on Friday (8/5). It was $60 cheaper than the jacked up price on Amazon.

 

[-Fran-]

What about Amperage? I might have run into an Amperage problem!?
PSU: Antec TruePower 650W (22+22+25+25A)
MB: GA-Z77X-UD3H
CPU: i7 3770K
GPU: GV-N1070G1 GAMING-8GD

What I've heard is that 1070 demands 30A which could explain things. Trying to pull up to 30A through one 8-pin connector which would mean max 22-25Aw with my Antec. THat could explain whu Time Spy is lagging like hell (1.200p)

I hate these problems and if this is my problem I don't get why more people don't have the same problem 🙁

20A at 12V will deliver 240W on their own. The ATX spec caps the Amps in the 12V for the 8-pin at ~13A, so your PSU is well above that cap.

In short, your PSU is not giving you any issues at all.

Cheers!

EDIT: Added quote.

 

[RobCrezz]

Had to RMA my 1060 Strix, has horrendous Coil whine/buzzing. The MSI 1060 Gaming X I bought for my friends build is totally whine free. Luck of the draw I guess!

Hopefully my replacement is silent.

 

[U6b36ef]

The latest couple of games I have been playing, I have seen people complaining their Pascal's are having problems.

Like just now I am playing Borderlands: TPS. Someone who is maxing it says they are getting terrible frame drops. I think it's the PhysX because installing older Legacy PhysX drivers helps. ..You just wouldn't think the 1080 would struggle with anything would you. .....My 980 is dropping too.

Also Assassin's creed: Syndicate. Some folk are reporting terrible performance. Whereas I play it faultless on my 980; using almost the top level ambient occlusion, and only FXAA.

 

[-Fran-]

Take what I'll say here with a ton of salt, since this is from what I have gathered reading years and years of forums, complains and articles that talk about nVidia drivers.

In my opinion, nVidia suffers from "over optimization" on the driver front, to a point where old stuff, unless optimized, performs like crap on new gens. There are several threads and histories of how nVidia not only "tweaks" drivers very specifically for games, but creates full exclusive render paths for them in the drivers to get the max performance out of the GPU playing it; even going "off-standard" if necessary (read a lot of this in Linux forums).

So, yeah, it does not surprise me one bit some cards have issues with not-so-old-games-but-not-current-hot. I'm sure nVidia will address them soon, but it's just the nature of the beast when you depend so much on driver optimization and less on "brute force" (sort of speaking) for performance; this last bit, I don't even know how to assign % to either side, but the evidence is everywhere it is the case for both camps.

I bet nVidia will just add the profiles inside the drivers soon. If you have nVidia inspector (I use it a lot in my notebook that has a GTX580M) then play around with the profiles and see if it fixes some of the "issues". Changing the profiles to their closest best helps in some cases. Sometimes you can't start the games or suffer graphical corruption, haha.

Cheers!

 

[renz496]

this is interesting:

https://www.techpowerup.com/224976/samsung-to-optical-shrink-nvidia-pascal-to-14-nm

 

[-Fran-]

I would imagine they want to benchmark the node before moving production from TSMC anywhere else.

Oh, the other option is they want to produce *something else* with Samsung... There was the rumor of the Nintendo NX using nVidia hardware, so they could be looking at Samsung for additional manufacturing muscle.

Cheers!

 

[renz496]

their primary fab most likely still TSMC. it is no secret that nvidia want an alternative to TSMC. JHH even openly talk in the public about how intel should open their fab to others. the talk about nvidia to use samsung fab is not new. i heard something similar back in 2012. but as it is TSMC are the only company that can fab their big GPU.

 

[Math Geek]

hello everyone in the nvidia thread been on a long vacation and finally back home where i can begin reading a lot more and update what i find on the world of nvidia. seems nvidia has announced a 3 gb version of the 1060 like was rumored before. seems silly not to name it the 1050 but it is what it is http://videocardz.com/63134/nvidia-confirms-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-has-1152-cuda-cores

and some exciting news on the pascal mobile chips. looks like we will get gddr5 1080/70/60 mobile chips for laptops. http://videocardz.com/63141/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-mobile-gets-gddr5x-memory