Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[paulbatzing]

Looks pretty good to me (Asus GTX 1080 Strix).

the gpu only touching 3 out of 5 of the heat pipe. some people would take that as a bad design 😛

Well, it is certainly better then having 3 heatpipes only. The two outer heatpipes are in thermal contact with the other three, and at least for a high DT scenario, this design should lead thermal equilibrium between the five heatpipes. Anyway, since the whole of the gpu is covered in heatpipes, this design should anyway be removing as much heat as is possible directly, plus cooling down the heatpipes since they have contact to two extra.

It might be unnessecary, and it might elevate the cost more then it helps cooling, but then again ASUS Rog cards are never really about the reasonable price/performance ratio, hey are about cooling as much as possible on air. I wouldn't buy it, but it is designed as it is on purpose.

 

[RobCrezz]

I found the quote I was looking for. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3135290/graphics-cards-money/page-2.html

Considering what we've seen from Asus on their Polaris Strix cards and the poor VRAM and VRM cooling, I'm wary of recommending their cards this generation.

I swear, I'm not kidding, the review of the RX 470 must have been edited. Something was wiped out, I know I even made some comments on the matter that seem to be gone. Since Tomshardware is the only site with this thermal camera to measure this, I wouldn't be surprised if Asus asked them to remove the part about the memory running quite past its maximum rated temperature on the RX 470. I just know it was there. And now it's gone. This isn't the first time I've seen stuff disappear from this site.

You sure its not just relating to the vram cooling? Which isnt a big deal anyway, as vram chips really dont generate much heat.

 

[James Mason]

It might be unnessecary, and it might elevate the cost more then it helps cooling, but then again ASUS Rog cards are never really about the reasonable price/performance ratio, hey are about cooling as much as possible on air. I wouldn't buy it, but it is designed as it is on purpose.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure MSI has the best air cooler.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Maybe it was just VRAM cooling, but I don't think it's healthy for VRAM to run past its specifications for temperature. Look at how normal RAM fails, RAM is a common thing to fail in a PC. Would that not be consistent for VRAM, and would not a high temperature speed the failure process up? Anyway that portion of the article is deleted from earth. Next time something like this happens I am saving the HTML to my computer so I can have proof if something gets modified.

 

[U6b36ef]

For reference, this is the Asus Strix GTX 980 cooler. The 1080 cooler looks slightly more aggressive.

Then to show the better cooler on the 980 over the 970. This is the Asus Strix 970 cooler.

 

[RobCrezz]

Maybe it was just VRAM cooling, but I don't think it's healthy for VRAM to run past its specifications for temperature. Look at how normal RAM fails, RAM is a common thing to fail in a PC. Would that not be consistent for VRAM, and would not a high temperature speed the failure process up? Anyway that portion of the article is deleted from earth. Next time something like this happens I am saving the HTML to my computer so I can have proof if something gets modified.

Where is it showing the vram going past its spec temps? I suspect if the part has been removed it must have been false...

Where are you getting these statistics? I work with 1000s of computers, RAM failures are very very rare in my experience.

 

[Math Geek]

I found a benchmark of the GTX 1060 3GB that was updated on the 18th and posted yesterday, might be legit. https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4yurw3/gtx_1060_3gb_benchmarks/

Another benchmark http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/234201-nvidia-quietly-launches-new-gtx-1060-3gb-with-fewer-cores-200-price-point

thanks for the links the extreme tech article is reporting on guru3d's review and sharing their findings. so that one is not very useful.

i like the other one as the graph says it is the inno3d card reviewed and the numbers are consistant witht he gur3d review of the gaming x so looks pretty legit. however, when going to the site it is from, http://en.expreview.com/, i don't see the full review on there anywhere. only gpu review i see is for an rx 480. if you can find the full review i'd be happy to check it out and link it 😀

either way keep the links coming, i don't have time to scan every site in the world for reviews so any that other members share is always greatly appreciated. i'd like to eventually have at least 1 review for every card model released. lofty goal i know but should be possible if everyone shares what they find.

thanks again

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Their thermal camera was not false. It was there. And now it's not.

If it's not important than why would Asus have requested the portion to be deleted? Ask RedJaron since he is a Tons author and even stated it himself. I'd be interested to hear what he says.

 

[RobCrezz]

Its all guess work though. VRMs are usually good for 130'c and vram chips to 100'c IIRC.

 

[paulbatzing]

@James Mason:
I have no personal experience (I am still running a non Rog Asus 780, because it was in stock when I bought, and because it was at a discount), but the tests I found on Guru3d indicate that the Asus card is slightly cooler but slightly noisier under load (but in both cases not much of a difference). Of course they don't note down ambient temps, so that might not be conclusive. Anyway, they seem to be more or less identically good cooled, and both seem adequate on the GPU temps. As the MSI is cheaper, it is the better card. But the cooler Asus has seems just as good on GPU temps at least.

Edit:
See http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_rog_strix_geforce_gtx_1080_review,11.html
(The thermal imaging page seems to tell us the cooling of the VRMs is adequate, although they don't mention Vram so IDK)
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1080_gaming_x_8g_review,11.html

 

[detroitwillfall]

Hey im back, sorry been busy.. anything new? LOL

 

[renz496]

nothing really apart from 1060 3GB that finally become a reality. (they really should called it as GTX1060 SE)

 

[Odinn21]

Hello there.

I'm on the verge of buying my new pc. I decided to get a GTX 1070. But couldn't decide which one to get. Here are options and prices (on my own currency) from my retailer;
Evga SC / 1940 bucks
Asus Strix 8G / 1955 bucks
Gigabyte G1 / 1960 bucks
Msi Gaminx X / 1975 bucks
Zotac AMP! Extreme / 2010 bucks
Evga FTW / 2030 bucks

I checked out their scores at YouTube channel MultiTechnopark. (Only Evga FTW was missing). While Evga SC and Msi Gaming X were identical, Asus Strix and Zotac AMP Extreme were the best ones. Gigabyte G1 was the one at the middle.

Personally, I don't consider overclocking much. Quite possibly I'll stick with factory clockspeeds. Also, I never liked that much Msi and Asus. And I have a soft spot against Gigabyte. But my main goal is getting the best performance and the best cooling. So I won't rule out Msi and Asus just because I don't like 'em. I want the optimal solution.
Which one do you suggest? Which one should I get? Thank you already.

(English isn't my native language, hopefully I did OK to explain myself.)

 

[RobCrezz]

Can vouch for both the Strix and the Gaming X, both very nice.

 

[Odinn21]

Thanks for the quick response.
Asus Strix was the best one in terms of performance according to the tests I saw. And it's the 2nd cheapest one. But I wonder about cooling. If its cooling system is one of good ones, then it's the obvious choice. (Tho, I'd like to have 2nd choice in my pocket in case.)

 

[RobCrezz]

The cooler on the Strix is brilliant in my opinion. My 1060 has the exact same cooler and its extremely quiet and cool.

 

[Odinn21]

The cooler on the Strix is brilliant in my opinion. My 1060 has the exact same cooler and its extremely quiet and cool.

Turned out, the Asus Strix that my retailer has is 8G. Not O8G. 8G is 140 MHz slower(boost mode).
The O8G version is priced at 2045 bucks at another retailer which has a reputation for bad customer service.

Back to square one...

 

[RobCrezz]

Thats fine, you can overclock it your self to the same spec for free...

 

[lucas_7_94]

Agreed, that missing Mhz will not give you 30 fps or more.

 

[James Mason]

Thats fine, you can overclock it your self to the same spec for free...

And it's easier than you think, it's mostly just tedious trial and error:
http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2749337/safe-gpu-overclocking-guide-2016.html

 

[Tommynew]

I tried two 1070 gigabyte g1, and both has awfull coil whine.
Buying another brand will solve that?

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I tried two 1070 gigabyte g1, and both has awfull coil whine.
Buying another brand will solve that?

Sometimes if you have a PSU with poor ripple it can contribute to the coil whine, so I've heard.

 

[Tommynew]

I tried two differente psus.
Both of them good quality psu, antec hcg and corsair rmx.
And get the same coil whine with both of them D:

 

[turkey3_scratch]

The you are unlucky.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

So I figured out why the EVGA GTX 1060 Superclocked edition is so much more expensive/desired. After reading the reviews on Newegg I see it's the better cooler. It doesn't really justify $300+. But it has a better cooler with 2 heat pipes, while the standard edition has a low end cooler that tends to run hot with people reporting theirs reaching 89-90C. If you look, you can actually see the different coolers in the images online. "The different coolers on the cards will certainly have different performance characteristics. The SC edition has a twin heatpipe cooler, while the base model uses a standard heatsink, similar to a CPU cooler."-EVGA support