Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[TechyInAZ]

I tried two differente psus.
Both of them good quality psu, antec hcg and corsair rmx.
And get the same coil whine with both of them D:

Unfortunately there is no way to fix the coil wine you have. Unless you want to try some SERIOUS modding (which will void your warranty and possible kill your video card).

My best suggestion I can give you is to see if hopefully you can RMA the card and get a new one.

 

[TehPenguin]

So I figured out why the EVGA GTX 1060 Superclocked edition is so much more expensive/desired. After reading the reviews on Newegg I see it's the better cooler. It doesn't really justify $300+. But it has a better cooler with 2 heat pipes, while the standard edition has a low end cooler that tends to run hot with people reporting theirs reaching 89-90C. If you look, you can actually see the different coolers in the images online. "The different coolers on the cards will certainly have different performance characteristics. The SC edition has a twin heatpipe cooler, while the base model uses a standard heatsink, similar to a CPU cooler."-EVGA support

I also thought I couldn't justify the extra $$ for the exact same GPU but after a week with the cheaper Palit Dual card I decided to go with MSI, the reason being: silence. With the MSI 1060 I can stress my PC to the absolute limits and even still, a toddler could sleep next to it. With the cheaper cooler you could hear the whine while gaming. I must admit, only if the game itself got quieter but that's really the only instant where it counts.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I would always adjust my fan curve if I want silence so the fan stays very low until the GPU hits TJ Max.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Yes you are correct but my PC has silent Noctuas so for me it's ideal.

 

[TehPenguin]

The problem was, that even if all 5 case fans ran at full speed(~1300 RPM), the GPU wouldn't get much cooler. It ran at 70-80% fan speeds with temps reaching 80 degrees Celsius. My sweet spot for case fans is 300-400 RPM. Inaudible and the airflow is decent. Everything above gives diminishing returns. It really was the poorly cooled GPU with small heatsink and too few heatpipes.

 

[U6b36ef]

Another thing that bothers me about the 1080, (and the 1070 I suppose) is how big they are. What I mean is how big are they. When I see measurements, I can not work out where they measure cards from.

I suspect that the Asus or Gigabyte 1080 will not fit in my case. However they might.

The listed dimensions of the 1080Strix are: 29.8 x 13.4 x4 Centimeter
The listed dimensions of the 980Strix are: 28.86 x 13.44 x4.09 Centimeter

It shows the 1080 is 1cm longer than my Strix 980, and my case would accommodate that. However I read in a review that they are bigger than specced. However I don't know where the reviewer got the specs from, and it may have been Amazon.

Do they measure from the output plate? Or do they include the output plate tab at the top that overhangs? Anyway never mind of no-one knows, since for now, the 1080 is of my list. I am doing great with my 980 for a good while.

 

[Math Geek]

all the specs i listed were from product pages. very few reviewers bother to measure so it's hard to verify anything. some brands don't even list dimensions like colorful for instance.

i'd love to see a pic of the card with the measurements on it that way. more like a blueprint would have dimensions shown. one thing you can do is look at the pics for the i/o plate view. this at least lets you see if the card is taller than the i/o bracket which is a standard size.

being a math geek, if i really wanted a good guess this is how i would go about it. since we know the dimensions of the i/o bracket are standard. you can look at a pic and write a quick proportion to estimate the length of the card. you can measure the bracket and length on the screen easily and then use the known size of the bracket to build the proportion. only missing number is true length which is the variable you'll solve for. at least this is how i would do it for a good guesstimate if i really needed it. 😀 rather common way to estimate dimensions from photos really, used it all the in the army when looking at photos, looked for some known dimension and used it to work out the rest. rather accurate method really.

 

[Math Geek]

here is a nice little review using 4 different 1080 cards http://hothardware.com/reviews/custom-geforce-gtx-1080-round-up-with-asus-evga-and-gigagyte

FE, strix, evga sc and G1 cards. still showing so little difference it's hard to recommend the expensive cards.

 

[James Mason]

I bet there are probably youtube videos out there where they have a 1080 next to a 980/ti to show the difference in size, if any or not at all though.

 

[TechyInAZ]

GTX 1060 Xtreme is finally on sale! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125904

 

[turkey3_scratch]

GTX 1060 Xtreme is finally on sale! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125904

The light sabers are the greatest selling point.

 

[U6b36ef]

@Math Geek, yeah. A card laid out with dimensions written on top of it would be good. Or at least a note saying where measurements are point to point.

I looked at that link you showed of the HotHardware1080 reviews. You are quite right in what you have been saying about the premium that Asus are charging. That's way too much at $150 over the price of the EVGA or the Gigabyte.

For us that have hard panel cases, it sticks in the throat to even have to pay for lights. In that respect manufacturers should release a non-led version of their cards. I bet for $x-dollars less, most customers would opt for the cheaper non-led version.

@James Mason, yeah maybe. I will google Strix 980 vs Strix 1080

 

[TehPenguin]

@Math Geek, yeah. A card laid out with dimensions written on top of it would be good. Or at least a note saying where measurements are point to point.

I looked at that link you showed of the HotHardware1080 reviews. You are quite right in what you have been saying about the premium that Asus are charging. That's way too much at $150 over the price of the EVGA or the Gigabyte.

For us that have hard panel cases, it sticks in the throat to even have to pay for lights. In that respect manufacturers should release a non-led version of their cards. I bet for $x-dollars less, most customers would opt for the cheaper non-led version.

@James Mason, yeah maybe. I will google Strix 980 vs Strix 1080

Don't forget silence is also a factor. The more expensive cards, usually, have better coolers with more heatpipes. It turns them inaudible, even under load. MSI and the Strix cards seem to be the case at a premium price.

 

[U6b36ef]

Yeah. My Strix 980 is brilliantly quiet. Even when I have case fans on minimum it barely becomes audible. If it ever does become audible, I just up my case fans to medium setting, where they are almost inaudible. (Just a faint whoosh.) It does mean a lot to some gamers, to have a quiet card. It's excellent when you win in the quiet lottery with them.

Gigabyte cards are quiet too though. They got three fans on the 1080, and should be as good as the Strix. Asus are just charging an absolute premium for 3fps more I think. (Or maybe only 1fps over the G1.) Dunno where they are getting the idea people are going to buy a Strix 1080 at £750 (Amazon UK). Amazon have not had them in stock yet though I think. I think they have a higher price then drop the price to normal retail when in stock. It's just that Strix's are expensive everywhere.

My plan is to use my 980 for a long time. Like I have ten untouched games in Steam. I found a few in some mega cheap bundles. I can play almost anything @ constant 60 fps @1080p, so I am fine.

If I were looking seriously though, isn't the 1070 much better bang for buck?

 

[Warmacblu]

I performed a search on Newegg this morning and the 1070 STRIX is 459 for the OC model and 437 for the non OC model. In comparison the Gigabyte model is 430 and the rest of the OC models from MSI, eVGA, and Zotac are 449 or 459. The 1070 STRIX pricing falls in line with the rest of the board partners, maybe it's 5 to 10 dollars more. Hardly the premium that everyone is making it out to be.

Note - all prices are in USD and I did not look at the 1080s.

 

[TehPenguin]

1070 is obviously the better bang for buck. Like all xx70 cards in the past.

 

[U6b36ef]

I performed a search on Newegg this morning and the 1070 STRIX is 459 for the OC model and 437 for the non OC model. In comparison the Gigabyte model is 430 and the rest of the OC models from MSI, eVGA, and Zotac are 449 or 459. The 1070 STRIX pricing falls in line with the rest of the board partners, maybe it's 5 to 10 dollars more. Hardly the premium that everyone is making it out to be.

Note - all prices are in USD and I did not look at the 1080s.

It's good to know, thank you. However if you look on that link Math Geek added above, the review lists the Strix about $150 more than EVGA and Gigabyte. On Amazon UK the Strix is very pricey, but I don't recall how much the others are.

 

[Warmacblu]

It seems like there is still some price gouging for the 1080s while the 1070s have started to close the gap.

 

[Math Geek]

was something i considered when i first listed the prices i found for the various cards. i know they fluctuate but i tried to find the price they would stay at for a while when i listed it. when i get time i'll revisit some sellers and see if any adjustments need to be made to what i have on page 1.

some of the cards are not sold in the US and seem to only be asian market stuff. if anyone is from those areas and would like to link me to a place i can find prices for those cards, i'd be happy to add those in. i just have no idea where to look for prices for those markets.

galax and colorful seem to be the 2 i don't see anywhere i have looked. what regions sell these and at what prices?? anyone know?

 

[Math Geek]

here is a test of Asus Strx 480's in Xfire against an MSI Gaminx X 1070 http://www.comptoir-hardware.com/articles/cartes-graphiques/32165-test-crossfire-de-rx-480-vs-gtx-1070.html?start=0

about the same as have seen before for results. 1070 wins some, 480 xfire wins some.

 

[Warmacblu]

I don't think Gainward is available in the US either.

 

[Math Geek]

i found prices for gainward on oc.uk so those should be good enough for a baseline price anyway.

i did read that colorful was bringing some mobo's and other stuff to the us through an amazon and ebay store. we may start seeing some gpu's as well. should keep the price down some if they are selling directly through an amazon store. no idea when/if it will happen but mobo's should start being for sale soon from them.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

i found prices for gainward on oc.uk so those should be good enough for a baseline price anyway.

i did read that colorful was bringing some mobo's and other stuff to the us through an amazon and ebay store. we may start seeing some gpu's as well. should keep the price down some if they are selling directly through an amazon store. no idea when/if it will happen but mobo's should start being for sale soon from them.

There's no way I'm buying a colorful motherboard.

 

[RobCrezz]

Thats fine, you can overclock it your self to the same spec for free...

And it's easier than you think, it's mostly just tedious trial and error:
http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2749337/safe-gpu-overclocking-guide-2016.html

I dont think much of that guide to be honest... Maxing out the voltage as one of the first steps.. ok.

 

[TehPenguin]

Overclocking Pascal is basically: "Increase Core Clock by X", play a game for an hour. "Increase Core Clock by X+50", play a game for an hour. And so on until your game crashes. No voltage tweaking needed and you can easily get 2GHz.

Or as I've done it:
Increase by 250 - it would crash and then reduce by 25 until you reach a stable clock. I got 175MHz offset on my card plus 500MHz on memory.

No super fool proof as some games might crash and the others won't but it's a method that doesn't require you to do much more than play games you play anyway.