Nvidia GeForce GTX 1000 Series (Pascal) MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[Math Geek]

i found prices for gainward on oc.uk so those should be good enough for a baseline price anyway.

i did read that colorful was bringing some mobo's and other stuff to the us through an amazon and ebay store. we may start seeing some gpu's as well. should keep the price down some if they are selling directly through an amazon store. no idea when/if it will happen but mobo's should start being for sale soon from them.

There's no way I'm buying a colorful motherboard.

i have no experience with the brand at all. never seen any reviews for their stuff so have no idea if they are good or not. i know there is a lot of stuff available to the asian market that we never see. but never looked into those brands since i can't buy them anyway

 

[RobCrezz]

i found prices for gainward on oc.uk so those should be good enough for a baseline price anyway.

i did read that colorful was bringing some mobo's and other stuff to the us through an amazon and ebay store. we may start seeing some gpu's as well. should keep the price down some if they are selling directly through an amazon store. no idea when/if it will happen but mobo's should start being for sale soon from them.

There's no way I'm buying a colorful motherboard.

i have no experience with the brand at all. never seen any reviews for their stuff so have no idea if they are good or not. i know there is a lot of stuff available to the asian market that we never see. but never looked into those brands since i can't buy them anyway

People have said similar about Biostar, but I have done builds with Biostar motherboards and they did the job just fine.

 

[Eximo]

I think a lot of it is just historical, and goes back to when a lot of motherboards were made with the cheapest parts available. But today, those cheapest parts are the decent quality ones produced on a massive scale.

Oddly you also have to factor in computing for board layout. Even your less well funded companies can now afford to spend time on board optimization following standards laid down by the software they purchased.

Seeing even cheap motherboards and video cards dropping electrolytics in favor of solid caps makes a big difference as well. Board death was pretty common in the 90s.

Personally I've had the worst luck with MSI motherboards, but now they are a well known brand for motherboards and gpus.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I don't see a single electrolytic cap on modern GPUs and boards.

 

[RobCrezz]

I think a lot of it is just historical, and goes back to when a lot of motherboards were made with the cheapest parts available. But today, those cheapest parts are the decent quality ones produced on a massive scale.

Oddly you also have to factor in computing for board layout. Even your less well funded companies can now afford to spend time on board optimization following standards laid down by the software they purchased.

Seeing even cheap motherboards and video cards dropping electrolytics in favor of solid caps makes a big difference as well. Board death was pretty common in the 90s.

Personally I've had the worst luck with MSI motherboards, but now they are a well known brand for motherboards and gpus.

Yeah I also had MSI boards fail in the 90s and Gigabyte in more recent times. I still avoid Gigabyte but the modern MSI stuff seems good.

 

[Eximo]

Some of the OEMs for the big computer companies still do it. Foxconn as an example. They tend towards decently rated ones at least.

About the only place you'll see electrolytics on a direct to consumer part is in the audio area for sound cards and premium sound on motherboards.

 

[renz496]

I think a lot of it is just historical, and goes back to when a lot of motherboards were made with the cheapest parts available. But today, those cheapest parts are the decent quality ones produced on a massive scale.

Oddly you also have to factor in computing for board layout. Even your less well funded companies can now afford to spend time on board optimization following standards laid down by the software they purchased.

Seeing even cheap motherboards and video cards dropping electrolytics in favor of solid caps makes a big difference as well. Board death was pretty common in the 90s.

Personally I've had the worst luck with MSI motherboards, but now they are a well known brand for motherboards and gpus.

Yeah I also had MSI boards fail in the 90s and Gigabyte in more recent times. I still avoid Gigabyte but the modern MSI stuff seems good.

lol between asus and gigabyte i prefer to have gigabyte boards. i had some issues with my asus Z77 board where sometimes they have issues detecting my hard driver. played around with BIOS but the problem still exist. well maybe the issue is specific to my board only. my current gigabyte Z77 is fine except that awful Via Vinyl on board sound which end me up getting creative recon 3d sound card. also have gigabyte G41 chipset mobo that i paired with my E7500 in the past. not the best but it work rock solid with my E7500 OCed to 3.6Ghz.

 

[RobCrezz]

I think a lot of it is just historical, and goes back to when a lot of motherboards were made with the cheapest parts available. But today, those cheapest parts are the decent quality ones produced on a massive scale.

Oddly you also have to factor in computing for board layout. Even your less well funded companies can now afford to spend time on board optimization following standards laid down by the software they purchased.

Seeing even cheap motherboards and video cards dropping electrolytics in favor of solid caps makes a big difference as well. Board death was pretty common in the 90s.

Personally I've had the worst luck with MSI motherboards, but now they are a well known brand for motherboards and gpus.

Yeah I also had MSI boards fail in the 90s and Gigabyte in more recent times. I still avoid Gigabyte but the modern MSI stuff seems good.

lol between asus and gigabyte i prefer to have gigabyte boards. i had some issues with my asus Z77 board where sometimes they have issues detecting my hard driver. played around with BIOS but the problem still exist. well maybe the issue is specific to my board only. my current gigabyte Z77 is fine except that awful Via Vinyl on board sound which end me up getting creative recon 3d sound card. also have gigabyte G41 chipset mobo that i paired with my E7500 in the past. not the best but it work rock solid with my E7500 OCed to 3.6Ghz.

Yeah its odd, but my old Gigabyte Z68 board just died one day for no reason, was one of the quite high end ones too. Not sure I have ever had a Asus or Asrock board die ever though.

 

[-Fran-]

Brands I trust: Asus, DFI (I'm still crying over them, yes; my s939+Athlon X2 4400+ board is still alive and kicking in someone else's PC) and Intel.
Neutral: expensive MSI.
Distrust: Gigabyte, cheap MSI, ASRock.

I have this single image plastered in my mind from when I was young (fresh University meat) and I went to get myself a new MoBo... I had to go by the "returns" area and they had, no kidding here, 3 stacks of ASRock and MSI MoBos from the floor to the ceiling. I asked what the hell happened and they said "bad batch". This was when the VIA KT333 was a thing along with SiS chipsets, so I hope they have improved thing a bit, but that image... Darn.

In any case!

I recommended a Gigabyte 1060 6GB to a friend of mine and we'll put it into his PC this week end. I'll see if I'm sold on it after we (I) test it.

EDIT: Found the Sapphire RX480 4GB Nitro in stock and bought it! I'll have some subjective impressions for both of them soon-ish.

Cheers!

 

[turkey3_scratch]

MSI has my favorite bios.

 

[Math Geek]

here's a shot at bringing the topic back to gpu's 😀

here is a second review of the MSI Gaming X 1060 3 GB http://www.techspot.com/review/1237-msi-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb/ about the same as guru 3d showed. roughly 10% slower than the 6 gb model. not bad for the cost savings.

and gamer's nexus has a FTW hybrid review comparing it to the seahawk x http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2582-evga-gtx-1080-ftw-hybrid-review-vs-sea-hawk-x

 

[renz496]

well nothing really interesting anyway. Vega will be in 1H 2017. that sounds like Q2 2017. just hope this time when they did launch in Q2 they not launch on june 29th like polaris. until then we probably not going to see much from nvidia on the high end. now we just waiting for "true" RX460 competitor from nvidia.

 

[lucas_7_94]

Someone can confirm the range of date for 1H 2017 or Q2 2017? i'm not from EE UU so i'm a little confused.

I really had the hope to see the RX 490 in the end of this year.

 

[RobCrezz]

q2 2017 would be Apr-June

 

[Math Geek]

pretty sure amd said 1st half of 2017 themselves. have to look for the press release but i'm pretty sure they said it themselves and it's not part of the rumor mill.

 

[James Mason]

1st half (1h) of 2017 and Q2 (second quarter of a year) are basically the same time period. 1h is like January to end of June, q2 is just April to end of June.

 

[azzazel_99]

If anyone running 1080 or higher (titanXP) on a z170 and 6700k? I'm looking for advice if 2 titanx's would be a waste of performance on a 6700k in gaming. Im using asus pg348q and would like to continue to have 100fps consistently to fully enjoy this monitor for awhile to come. I thought about dual 1080's but seeing how they pull roughly 110-130fps on tombraider at 1440p and im running over 1440p so i dont want to limit myself performance wise.

 

[TehPenguin]

If anyone running 1080 or higher (titanXP) on a z170 and 6700k? I'm looking for advice if 2 titanx's would be a waste of performance on a 6700k in gaming. Im using asus pg348q and would like to continue to have 100fps consistently to fully enjoy this monitor for awhile to come. I thought about dual 1080's but seeing how they pull roughly 110-130fps on tombraider at 1440p and im running over 1440p so i dont want to limit myself performance wise.

My advice: wait.

Titans are pretty much always a waste of money. Wait till Vega, wait till 1080ti. Refrain from SLI as the oscillating performance from game to game will never guarantee you 100 fps.

Also 110-130 FPS for 2x1080 SLI seems extremely low. A 1060 can render nearly as much at 1080p so I'd expect a single 1080 to render at least a 100 frames at 1440p. Probably just terrible SLI scaling.

 

[azzazel_99]

I have been sli for awhile now and i love sli. The games that do support it which most games do now (except division because its scaling is awful) run amazing! Big triple A titles always do support it thought, Battlefields, crysis, gta etc. 1080ti has no place in this lineup so i seriously doubt we will see one. I know i would have to run the cards at x8 x8 and not x16 x16 but from what i have see is a single titanX pascal only sees less than 1% difference in x8 vs x16 so since 2nd card never scales 100% i would think i would still be under 2% maybe less is performance gap from sli titanx pascals in x8 x8 vs x16 x16.

 

[azzazel_99]

The monitor im using is the asus pg348q so its 3440x1440 100hz. I want to stay at that 100fps mark to fully enjoy it and these 780ti's are getting a little long in the tooth at this res.

 

[TehPenguin]

I mean... your monitor is G-Sync anyway so you shouldn't notice too much of a sway. But I'm not to tell you what you want/should buy or not.

nVidia will have to answer Vega mid 2017 so I am fairly sure there will be something new by then. They are known to counter AMD before AMD even release their new products.

If not 1080ti that, IMO, will be the HBM2 card, then something else. There is not hard evidence, though, just assumptions.

Also, AFAIK, a GPU that would get throttled by an x8 hasn't been made yet so I wouldn't worry.

Don't know what games you play but if you can wait a year, I would definitely do so. I have a feeling we haven't seen the 'big guns' from either manufacturer yet.

 

[azzazel_99]

the titan is always the big guns from nvidia. Unless they come out with some new gpu thats higher than the titan. Also amd already said they are releasing no more gpu's this year and until vega so we've seen all we are going to see from amd with polaris. I play mostly battlefield but also play other games like, the forest, crysis etc. Main game is battlefield tho

 

[Eximo]

I dropped from SLI 980 to a single 1080 for my PG279Q. A little overclocking and I should have about the same performance (though I can hardly tell the difference now).

SLI is going to look less attractive here shortly. New DX11 titles will be well serviced my mid-range and up cards available now. DX12 titles may not support SLI or Crossfire at all, in favor of multiple GPU support. But until that happens you will be sitting in middle ground where you are mostly using a single GPU.

So a single Titan X makes about as much sense as a pair of 1080. Not even going to come close to recouping losses on a pair of Titans.

 

[azzazel_99]

i do not see sli support being lessened by dx 12 considering one of its big capabilities is vram stacking and lessening the load of cpu and dumping more onto the gpu

 

[turkey3_scratch]

From a business perspective programming for SLI is a waste of time and money for how few people do SLI as well as the fact that they'll probably still purchase and play the game anyway even if it only supports 1 GPU.