The last picture clearly shows us that this thing is being mass produced now. All 10 GF100 chips are ready to be stuck on a PCB and shipped out to a retailer near you.
Not sure why everyone is getting hanged up asking for the damn price. Just enjoy the news, whatever it is. The constant whine for "price?" "boring" etc is really getting annoying.
23x23 makes it quite a bit larger than the 58xx series chips, about 58% larger which is going to be bad news for yields which is probably why the core count got dropped from the original. Hopefully it gets a nice big cooler strapped on so it doesnt turn its board into a smoking pile of slag.
Just wow no WONDER why yield rates are in the crapper, there is no way to turn a decent profit much less break even. This die is nearly TWICE that of a 55nm G92 and is 9.2% larger than a classic G80. With a die that large and with issues with the 40nm process this gpu in full spec is going to be rare in all segments. Remember ATI had to chop their R870 just to avoid these very problems. It went from 2400 shaders to 1600 and from 384 to 256bit as well had to cut out side port as well just to keep the die under 400mm2. Better luck Nvidia with the 28nm and multy source next time as they had done for decades to help smooth out these types of issue.
For all the ridiculous hype about nothing, it better be leaps and bounds faster than the 5870, quieter, and cooler. Boxes and sizes don't mean crap until I see the benches.
For all the ridiculous hype about nothing, it better be leaps and bounds faster than the 5870, quieter, and cooler. Boxes and sizes don't mean crap until I see the benches.
i know right? who really cares about the boxes? i sure don't pay for the boxes when i buy a card, i buy the card for my computer, so i only care about its performance.
[citation][nom]thegreathuntingdolphin[/nom]I "fermily" believe the GTX 480 will be like a 5890. My only problem is that I also believe it will be $100+ more than the 5870. With the drops in price that will most likely occur with the 5850 and 5870, the price-performance gap will increase even more. Then the GTX 480 will be close in price to 5850s in Crossfire or $150 more than the 5870 (if they both drop down to their intro prices).[/citation]
evven though the only benchmark was an nvidia optimised benchmark shoulding it cant even keep up with the 5870, you are an nvidia fanboi
[citation][nom]Zenthar[/nom]I hope NVidia seriously fears all the hype they created over this GPU. I fear disappointment is innevitable at this point unless it really kicks ATI's ass by an order of magnitude (ex: single GPU performing as a 5890).[/citation]
Not gonna happen. Not even close. If it performs on par with the 5870 I will be surprised.
[citation][nom]thegreathuntingdolphin[/nom]I "fermily" believe the GTX 480 will be like a 5890. My only problem is that I also believe it will be $100+ more than the 5870. With the drops in price that will most likely occur with the 5850 and 5870, the price-performance gap will increase even more. Then the GTX 480 will be close in price to 5850s in Crossfire or $150 more than the 5870 (if they both drop down to their intro prices).[/citation]
1. You are on Crack.
2. You will be very SURPRISED when it is benched and then see how it is not faster or on par then a 5870.
[citation][nom]nate007[/nom]1. You are on Crack.2. You will be very SURPRISED when it is benched and then see how it is not faster or on par then a 5870.[/citation]
After this many revisions and this many delays, I would be pretty surprised if it didn't at least match a 5870 in most games.
[citation][nom]thegreathuntingdolphin[/nom]I "fermily" believe the GTX 480 will be like a 5890. My only problem is that I also believe it will be $100+ more than the 5870. With the drops in price that will most likely occur with the 5850 and 5870, the price-performance gap will increase even more. Then the GTX 480 will be close in price to 5850s in Crossfire or $150 more than the 5870 (if they both drop down to their intro prices).[/citation]
GTX 480s for a good price when ATI releases their next refresh!
Price per GPU, FERMI is rumored to be about 10x the costs of an ATI 5850/70 GPU. Since the DIE is about twice the size, it also means less yields... there are always defects on wafers, hence companies like small chips so a few defects (lets say 10) may only effect 10 chips out of 150, as compared to 10 chips out of 16.
[citation][nom]agnickolov[/nom]The first image is a heat spreader, not a die. It also clearly shows 41mm, not 42.[/citation]
Wow, pedantic. Anyway, if you look at Heise's picture, you will notice that there is a shadow cast by the ruler, which indicates that it's not directly on top of the heat spreader. This would create the illusion that the ruler is scaled bigger due to its closer proximity to the camera. While I can't be sure that it really is 42mm instead of 41mm, I will trust Heise's personal reading of the measurement and their report of "4,2×4,2 Zentimeter."