Nvidia GeForce GTX 900 Series MegaThread: FAQ and Resources

[fudgecakes99]

I wouldn't really buy into the amd never releases drivers b.s. Granted i don't know exactly about the sli/crossfire scene specifically i do know that i've neverh ad any driver issues for the many years i've had an amd card.

 

[fudgecakes99]

Yeah its essentially 4k. Technically 4x 1080p so 7680x4320. So it's 4320p not that uhd b.s. at 3840x2160 which would actually be 2160p, or actually 2k, which is technically 4k/ uhd. Which comes full circle to 8k which is actually 4k. Really the nomenclature is really confusing people just need to come up with a single system that works.

Ha, yeah. But the point is, there's no need to push excessive pixels. Run MLL with just FXAA. It looks great, and playing smoothly is WAAAY better than improving small details you have to pause the game to appreciate.

Personally i noticed a bigger quality difference with metro last lights super sampling then 2033's. Super sampling asaide, it's still a beautiful game, if you look past the npc face models.

 

[renz496]

I wouldn't really buy into the amd never releases drivers b.s. Granted i don't know exactly about the sli/crossfire scene specifically i do know that i've neverh ad any driver issues for the many years i've had an amd card.

i'm not talking about driver issue or stability. on single card the game will work even if you did not update the driver. but for CF you strictly need CF profile so the game can take advantage of CF. when you spend big dollar on multi gpu setup did you expect CF support to come out three or four months after the game comes out? if you buy the game on day one or pre-order it you already finish the game once CF profile available. this issue is real. earlier this year you can see some CF user were complaining because of AMD did not release driver for three months. in the past it wasn't much of issue since AMD often release CF profile even without major driver release. but ever since they change their strategy on driver release they also change how they release their CF profiles. now most of the time you can only get CF profile when AMD releasing new drivers.

 

[-Fran-]

I wouldn't really buy into the amd never releases drivers b.s. Granted i don't know exactly about the sli/crossfire scene specifically i do know that i've neverh ad any driver issues for the many years i've had an amd card.

i'm not talking about driver issue or stability. on single card the game will work even if you did not update the driver. but for CF you strictly need CF profile so the game can take advantage of CF. when you spend big dollar on multi gpu setup did you expect CF support to come out three or four months after the game comes out? if you buy the game on day one or pre-order it you already finish the game once CF profile available. this issue is real. earlier this year you can see some CF user were complaining because of AMD did not release driver for three months. in the past it wasn't much of issue since AMD often release CF profile even without major driver release. but ever since they change their strategy on driver release they also change how they release their CF profiles. now most of the time you can only get CF profile when AMD releasing new drivers.

Let me tell you a little story of a friend with XFire and the type of person that says "I know all, I tried all", that could not make Dirt 3 work with his 2 6870s...

He was tired, hateful and totally pissing on AMD because of his bad purchase, their bad drivers reputation and what not... I would have agreed for his particular case, except the drivers from last month had just added "custom profiles". So, I begged and begged for a TeamViewer session to give it a try. He said the drivers had the profile already built in, it was dumb for me to even suggest that.

Well, you know where this is going: "Create new Profile" -> "Dirt 3" -> "Already Exists, Overwrite?" -> "Yes" -> "XFire: AFR" -> "Save". The game ran butter smooth with XFire enabled afterwards and he learned his lesson.

Point is, sometimes you just need to dig a little deeper for SLI or XFire 😛

Cheers!

 

[Mousemonkey]

I wouldn't really buy into the amd never releases drivers b.s. Granted i don't know exactly about the sli/crossfire scene specifically i do know that i've neverh ad any driver issues for the many years i've had an amd card.

I think that stems from the fact that AMD went from releasing a driver every month like ATi used to to only releasing a driver when they felt it was ready for release.

 

[renz496]

I wouldn't really buy into the amd never releases drivers b.s. Granted i don't know exactly about the sli/crossfire scene specifically i do know that i've neverh ad any driver issues for the many years i've had an amd card.

i'm not talking about driver issue or stability. on single card the game will work even if you did not update the driver. but for CF you strictly need CF profile so the game can take advantage of CF. when you spend big dollar on multi gpu setup did you expect CF support to come out three or four months after the game comes out? if you buy the game on day one or pre-order it you already finish the game once CF profile available. this issue is real. earlier this year you can see some CF user were complaining because of AMD did not release driver for three months. in the past it wasn't much of issue since AMD often release CF profile even without major driver release. but ever since they change their strategy on driver release they also change how they release their CF profiles. now most of the time you can only get CF profile when AMD releasing new drivers.

Let me tell you a little story of a friend with XFire and the type of person that says "I know all, I tried all", that could not make Dirt 3 work with his 2 6870s...

He was tired, hateful and totally pissing on AMD because of his bad purchase, their bad drivers reputation and what not... I would have agreed for his particular case, except the drivers from last month had just added "custom profiles". So, I begged and begged for a TeamViewer session to give it a try. He said the drivers had the profile already built in, it was dumb for me to even suggest that.

Well, you know where this is going: "Create new Profile" -> "Dirt 3" -> "Already Exists, Overwrite?" -> "Yes" -> "XFire: AFR" -> "Save". The game ran butter smooth with XFire enabled afterwards and he learned his lesson.

Point is, sometimes you just need to dig a little deeper for SLI or XFire 😛

Cheers!

yes it can be forced (the same goes with nvidia SLI). i own 660SLI myself before i got my 960. but when AMD/nvidia did not have profiles ready for the game it could be there is problem when enabling SLI/CF with the said game. and for some people if they still can't force it via nvidia control panel they could try using nvidia inspector to force SLI working using other game SLI profile. this kind of thing is not for someone that expect everything will work out on the get go basis. but you also can't deny that when people spend top dollar going multi gpu route they will expect 'first class' treatment from the company that sold them the hardware. i mean i paid $1500 for 295x2 when the gpu first come out but i can only see it's full potential after 3 months game launch? some people that really understand the true nature of multi gpu might be fine with that but there bound to be people that are not.

 

[fudgecakes99]

Really theirs work arounds for just about anything if you dig into the .ini files in most games you can tweak quite a lot of stuff.

 

[renz496]

yes there are work around to make it work but to some people they are not going to sit well with that idea WHEN they already spend top dollars for the said hardware.

 

[fudgecakes99]

True, to each his own, no company is without it's faults.

 

[fudgecakes99]

Not trying to cause a gpu war. But out of everyone's collective opinion what is better a 390 or 970? I say 390. Thoughts?

 

[MadMorigan]

Unfortunately, the r9 390 trumps the 970 with more vram and better or similar performance. I will agree that the 970 is much more efficient in power usage, the better overclocker, and has more mature drivers (unless the r9 390 uses the 290 drivers); The vram is a no-go for 4k and even 1440p for the most recent and demanding games. Games are only going to increase vram usage as textures and shadows get more complex + w/dx12 tech, who knows how much better they may get.

Jayz two cents does a good comparison vid on these. BTW I recently sold my sli 970's solely for the vram usage + sli performance in games and am waiting forever for my zotac amp extreme 980 ti to get here lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9cKZiJw6Pk

Not trying to cause a gpu war. But out of everyone's collective opinion what is better a 390 or 970? I say 390. Thoughts?

 

[fudgecakes99]

Which is what i think so the only real competition for the 970 would be at 1080p or a lower resolution while anything above that the 390 would be better.

 

[-Fran-]

Basically, yes.

Like I've been saying for quite a while, the 970 has the 1080p segment grabbed very tightly. If you go beyond 1080p, you get the 390/290 and even Fury if budget allows as viable alternatives (if you don't freak out over the power usage, sans Fury).

Cheers!

 

[17seconds]

This is totally cool:

"EVGA is introducing a way to select your approximate GPU ASIC (approximate OC performance) Quality before purchasing. Every single piece of silicon, whether it be a CPU or GPU, varies when it comes to maximum overclocking. On GPU's, ASIC quality is one way to determine potential overclock performance. Please note this ASIC Quality DOES NOT guarantee any specific overclock performance, it is merely a guide. The higher the ASIC Quality, the higher the potential overclock performance and the rarer the GPU. Of course, this can and will vary."
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/evga-geforce-gtx-980-ti-kingpin-edition-launched.html

 

[Bossyfins]

^ That coool.

 

[MadMorigan]

i don't think i like that, i'd rather pay an extra $50 for a 25% overclock (such as the zotac amp extreme 980ti) than an extra 2-$300 for an estimated overclock of who-knows.

 

[Bossyfins]

25% oc for 50$ is very good...

 

[17seconds]

The card's BIOS will select a lower default voltage at idle and load on a a GPU with a higher ASIC. The benefits of that go much further than a max OC, which isn't guaranteed, but a cooler running GPU clearly has it's advantages over a hotter one with higher voltages.

 

[MadMorigan]

I understand but are we talking possibly 25% overclock gains with classy + kingpin dual bios +ASIC quality features? I'm honestly asking cuz software oc is as far as I've gone without making the intimidating ln2 or bios editing jump as i've seen others do
Does this warrant the extra $100-$300 kingpin asic quality price?

 

[Bossyfins]

It could practically catch up to the 295x2... IF we talk about a 90% ASIC level, and you have water or LN2, easily surpass a 295x2.

Especially since the cooler is all copper, you should see it come near a 295x2 in performance.

 

[17seconds]

Actually, according to GPU-Z, a lower ASIC is desired for water/dice/LN2 overclocking.

 

[Bossyfins]

IS that so 😵

 

[17seconds]

IS that so 😵

Yeah, it says so right on the ASIC readout. Have you tried to read your ASIC quality score before? Just right-click on the title bar of GPU-Z and select "Read ASIC quality...".

 

[MadMorigan]

so basically, kingping higher asic % is good only for air/stock cooling, is that right? I'm reading the same asic chart thingy + that's what it seems to say.
btw, not gonna try ln2 but i do find the ln2 switch that the 780 ti classy's had were great and increased the power % so it'd b good for OC, does anybody know if the 980 ti classy has that too?

Might just pull the trigger on a classy then, im tired of waiting for my zotac to ship and the classy is in stock while my summer is only getting shorter

 

[Bossyfins]

IS that so 😵

Yeah, it says so right on the ASIC readout. Have you tried to read your ASIC quality score before? Just right-click on the title bar of GPU-Z and select "Read ASIC quality...".

Yes. Mine is 65~%