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Yeah but copper is a good heat conductor. Sure maybe the chip isn't necessarily touching all the pipes, but that doesn't mean it won't transfer the heat to them, heck you could even argue that the strix could conduct it better on the account of it not having a copper plate. A direct, thermal connection straight to the pipes, could provide better thermal dissipation in the long run instead of having to heat up the copper plate to heat up the pipes. Who knows, i guess i'll just wait until reviews are out of the unit?
 


I'd just make the point of "shoddy soldering". Some great looking coolers loose a lot of cooling efficiency because of not having decent quality soldering.

I don't know if that's the case for G1, but just pointing it out. You always want the heat-pipes as close as possible to the heat source. Less heat-pipes could be better if they're properly located against the GPU.

Cheers!
 

well i don't know about the solder specifically used by g1 or strix, but i do know that strix is practically, "machined" to perfection. At least according to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gRpuurPsuc Personally i don't know what that means for the consumer, i guess they save money in the long run by using less solder, but that doesn't necessarily mean they use those costs on making a better product or just pocketing it.
 
That Matrix though...

Hopefully it won't be too long before the Matrix comes out. I'm a little curious as to why they didn't try using a DCU3 on the Matrix 980 Ti as well as on the Strix, wouldn't they want more powerful cooling for a higher tier card that is meant to be far more heavily overclocked?
 
well i bit the bullet, got a 980 ti g1 from newegg, i refuse to give amazon any money after seeing that ridiculous price gouging. I mean honestly charging a g1 for 816 dollars and then saying you're saving 500 dollars when new eggsells it for 689 is just dumb.
 
Oh yeah, that's right I totally forgot. They will release the GTX 950 within the next few weeks. It's going to be cheaper than the 750 Ti, too - if I remember correctly, the GTX 950 will fill in a different hole in the price range. The 750 Ti is about $150 and this new 950 will be about $120, directly competing with the R7 360 as a new budget-oriented solution. The 750 Ti may or may not perform better, but since it's a "Ti" and it actually is a Maxwell-architecture card (despite having a Kepler classification) there's a very real chance that it does.
 
right when the g1 gaming gtx 980 ti (which i was gonna get) is finally in stock, this review comes out:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2947547/components-graphics/amd-radeon-fury-crossfire-review-2-fast-2-furious.html
now i don't know what to do...


If benchmarks are real, then the 980ti's are in trouble and could be cheaper in just a month. They would have to be if they are to compete with the fury. BTW is the fury just the fury x but without water cooling? i really haven't been paying too much attention to amd's side but the fury could really change things up if it offers 980 ti 4k performance for $100 less
 


Nah i doubt the price will drop why would a fury x be worse than a 980 ti but the air cooled version somehow pull ahead? I smell amd distributed charts. Remember when the fury came out and everyone thought that'd be the greatest thing ever. Then actual reviews came out and it wasn't better then the 980 ti? Also why the heck would they price the fury x more, when it does worse and the fury less when it supposedly does better? Poor marketing?
 
i dunno fudgecakes but price cuts are hitting again and soon:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/46399/nvidia-partners-cut-price-gtx-980-ti-fury-launch/index.html

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/amd.r9.fury.release.sparks.nvidia.geforce.gtx.980ti.titan.x.price.cut/58892.htm

but like you said, it could be amd marketing at it again, i don't want to waste my time waiting on another marketing scheme again like i did with the fury x but then again i would have had to wait for the g1 stock anyways
 



But i just bought an gtx 980 ti like last week. Well anyone know if new egg will return me the difference in case of a price drop?
 


Yeah i just got off support chat with them, they only do price checks if it's within 7 days of the purchase and thats if t he item in the store has a price drop. So far though the g1 is doing pretty dang good. Getting a full 31,32 frames in batman, can play far cry 4 at 50+ frames maxed that is when it's not crashing. And i get about 30-40 frames in metro maxed at 1080. Kinda thought spending 700+ on a graphics card would get me 60+ frames on everything maxed but i guess i'll just wait for driver updates? That said anyone else experiencing crashing in far cry 4 with dlc missions or maybe it's just nvidia's gameworks messing with the game?
 




fudgecakes, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get over 100fps on 1080p with that card. benchmarks show that even @4k, you should be closer to 50fps. at 4k. Are you sure you have a 1080p? Are you using 4k dsr?

here's article on card benchmarks:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_G1_Gaming/19.html
 



Well you have to take into account my current specs on my pc. i'm using an i7 870 from nilhelm archtecture i wanna say the first i7's. It came out before sandy-bridge 3770k . So about 2010, my motherboard is from a time when intel made motherboards its an h57 the pcie port is 2.0 gen x16. My ram's also not the greatest it runs at 1333mhz 4 sticks. Generally i get an average of 3.2ghz on my cpu though it's rated at 2.93 ghz with a boost of 3.5.

I'd say those things factored in quite a bit with my gpu so maybe some bottlenecking? But really should i be getting 100 plus fps? in which games? Either way i don't plan on upgrading everything else until sky lake drops in a few months.
 
Well regarding metro i do have ssaa super sampling at 4 and anti aliasing at 16 if i drop the ssaa to 2 i do get 100+ frames, but this is also a stock g1 i haven't oced yet so roughly about high 30's to low 40's frame rate wise.
 


Um,that's exactly why. 4xssaa at 1080p is pretty much 4k, so there you go.
 
Yeah its essentially 4k. Technically 4x 1080p so 7680x4320. So it's 4320p not that uhd b.s. at 3840x2160 which would actually be 2160p, or actually 2k, which is technically 4k/ uhd. Which comes full circle to 8k which is actually 4k. Really the nomenclature is really confusing people just need to come up with a single system that works.
 


Ha, yeah. But the point is, there's no need to push excessive pixels. Run MLL with just FXAA. It looks great, and playing smoothly is WAAAY better than improving small details you have to pause the game to appreciate.
 


if the info about 950 will be based on cut down GM206 it is very possible to be much faster than 750Ti in which even much slower than 660. but 950 probably will not going to be sub 75w GPU. price wise the card will probably replace 750Ti in sub $150 market while nvidia move both 750Ti and 750 towards sub $100 market.
 


don't underestimate nvidia. one of their expertise were selling much slower GPU for higher price tag compared to AMD counterpart 😛 . anyway that's only about multi gpu. how many people actually use multigpu setup? for people considering for single GPU only that result will not going to affect their buying decision. so there isn't much pressure from nvidia to drop price. also it is well known that AMD from time to time will have trouble to put out CF profiles on time for game release. earlier this year CF user have no profile for games that comes out in 2015 for almost 3 month since AMD did not release any driver between Omega and 15.3 beta.