NVIDIA nForce 590/680i For Conroe, Where Are They? HERE!

Page 12 - Seeking answers? Join the Tom's Hardware community: where nearly two million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
One thing i'm not understanding too clearly about the nforce 590 sli intel boards coming out, is that a lot of people say it's not a good overclocker.

I've read that this board supports 133mhz - 600mhz FSB settings.
I've read the 590sli boards for AMD are superb overclockers.

However i've also read that people are getting 500mhz+ FSB overclocks on the 975x boards while people can only get ~350mhz FSB on AMD Nforce 5s or the intel nforce 4 slis.

Though another counter i've read is that if you had some cooling on the nforce 590slis chips you can go above and beyond.

I'm confused as to what are truths and what are lies. But if I take everything as the truth, I don't see a problem with providing cooling to the board to take overclocking to the maximum possible, which should be with the core 2 duos the same or better of the 975x boards.

Anyone have any input?
 
True, I dont know where is all this people getting that it wont let you go further than 350mhz. ASUS specified they will be able to go up to 600Mhz. What else do you want?
 
I really dont care if I can go to 350mhz or 500mhz or 600mhz or 1000mhz. Im NOT gonna overclock my Conroe. I dont need to. 2.4Ghz are enough to run all my appz and games. There is absolutely no OC on my side. Ill see when I would try to but not for now...

Im not a overclocker and I dont buy overclocking mobos to play with, I just want a stable, good perfomance mobo.
 
God, don't anyone mess with Mr 29,000 posts. I'm not sure we are worthy of even talking to eachother in his presence. Dude, I think that was a little un-called for, just my opinion.

Is this new information or not? I read that it's the Asus P5N32-SLI board that we are all waiting for, and this one has an nForce 570 chipset. I have seen loads of the old P5N32-SLI boards with nForce 4 series chipsets, but this is the first that I have seen with an nForce 5 series...

"The P5N320 SLi SE Deluxe also features NVIDIA SLi technology at dual x 8, NVIIA nForce 570 SLi Intel Edition, ASUS’ exclusive two-slot thermal design and numerous other spectacular ASUS innovations." -- Tigerdirect product advert

LINK

.:EDIT:.

This is a little funky, I am reading and re-reading this passage, and it seems that they are referring to the board as the "P5N320 Sli." That doesn't sound accurate to me, maybe a typo of the "-" key being a "0" key? Seems that they refer to it as both that and the P5N32-Sli. There is also a typo in nVidia, they forgot the "d." I'm just going to attribute to bad typing.

After further review, I see that if you scroll down, you can click on the processor and the video card included in the bundle and they take you to the product pages with nice big "PRODUCT IS NO LONGER AVAILIBLE" headlines where the price usually is. You cannot click on the Asus mobo, it doesn't have it's own product page, and it also cannot be found through searching for it individually. Have a look for yourself - Gfx card - CPU.

Is this "NO LONGER..." headline the standard Tigerdirect way of saying they are sold out or do they usually have a pre-order or auto-notify button?
 
I've read that this board supports 133mhz - 600mhz FSB settings.
Click to expand...
The limitation lies within the board not the BIOS. And BIOS from every mobo manufacture will be different anyway.

I've read the 590sli boards for AMD are superb overclockers.
Click to expand...
nForce 590 SLI vs. nForce4 SLI 16x IE (C1) used in nForce 590 SLI IE
Results from Anandtech proves that.

However i've also read that people are getting 500mhz+ FSB overclocks on the 975x boards while people can only get ~350mhz FSB on AMD Nforce 5s or the intel nforce 4 slis.
Click to expand...
When you start overclocking you'll understand.


I'm not even going to stay around here and explaining those overclocking basics to you n00bz. When you get your nForce 590 SLI IE for Conroe and can't get past 365Mhz FSB, don't come crying to the OC forums for help because you've already been warned.

I don't know why you waste your time typing useless information. Go somewhere else dick.
 
God, don't anyone mess with Mr 29,000 posts. I'm not sure we are worthy of even talking to eachother in his presence. Dude, I think that was a little un-called for, just my opinion.

Is this new information or not? I read that it's the Asus P5N32-SLI board that we are all waiting for, and this one has an nForce 570 chipset. I have seen loads of the old P5N32-SLI boards with nForce 4 series chipsets, but this is the first that I have seen with an nForce 5 series...

"The P5N320 SLi SE Deluxe also features NVIDIA SLi technology at dual x 8, NVIIA nForce 570 SLi Intel Edition, ASUS’ exclusive two-slot thermal design and numerous other spectacular ASUS innovations." -- Tigerdirect product advert

LINK

.:EDIT:.

This is a little funky, I am reading and re-reading this passage, and it seems that they are referring to the board as the "P5N320 Sli." That doesn't sound accurate to me, maybe a typo of the "-" key being a "0" key? Seems that they refer to it as both that and the P5N32-Sli. There is also a typo in nVidia, they forgot the "d." I'm just going to attribute to bad typing.
Click to expand...

Names get a little confusing. Here i'll make a list.

NForce 590 SLI:
P5N32-SLI Premium
http://zeus.asus.com/hq/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=337&model=1325&modelmenu=1

Nforce 570 SLI:
P5NSLI
http://zeus.asus.com/hq/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=331&model=1311&modelmenu=1

Nforce4 SLI:
P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe
http://zeus.asus.com/hq/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=227&model=1280&modelmenu=1

Seems like Tigerdirect doesn't know what the'yre talking about.
 
I don't know why you waste your time typing useless information. Go somewhere else dick.
Click to expand...

I didn't know his name is Dick...
is that his first name or last?
if it is his last name would his first by chance be Harry(hairy)?

hehehe
 
It's not useless information. If you don't find any use for it, then just shut up or YOU (Dick) go somewhere else.

God damn punks believe that because they've spent 1 day on the forums they can *try* and pwn people who've been here for YEARS.
 
These are public forums, it's not up to you to govern what I do here. I can clearly see your degraded intelligence and ability to welcome people seeking more information. You rather, with great ignorance, call them noobs and tell them to go away. It is you who needs to go away. Public forums made to provide place for discussion and exchange of information do not need those who try to snuff newcomers out or shut them down.

This doesn't need to be discussed any further. This is a place to talk about the upcoming intel 590sli boards. There is no need to argue my point, any attempt to do so will not result in a response from myself - no matter how much you hope for my attention.


Now, to get back on topic. What exactly limits the Nforce4 / 5 series in overclockability? Please respond thoughtfully.
 
I think it would be great to keep on topic, however, I feel one or two things should be stated. I would consider myself an un-biased, straightforward person that does not hold grudges. I am quite keen on the idea of cutting people slack, and I feel that it would be excellent if they would do the same.

I would like to think that our friend wusy is/was having a bad day/week/whatever. Whatever it may be, it happens to the best of us and I would feel quite glad to know that was it and he is feeling better now, or soon.

HOWEVER. Dude, that's not cool. Seems to me that you unfairly called people demeaning names, insulted them personally, and then tried to justify your actions. I'm not griping and not playing mother, merely attempting to convey the feeling others sharing my viewpoint probably feel. Are we better?

On the other hand, that defunkt nForce 570 Asus P5N320 Sli board is still up for sale. Linky Maybe someone should email them and ask wtfxup.
 
I've already got my mind made up on what I want to buy. My reason for querying on why the nforce boards arn't able is more for technical curiosity.

So the chipset doesn't support high FSB speeds, but the bios does. Is that due to the Chipset becomming unstable (due to overheating?) at higher fsb speeds?

What i'm trying to nail here is what exactly becomes unstable in the chipset to make higher fsb speeds not viable.
 
Sorry sir, I do not entirely understand your answer. You say that no one with an nForce 4 chipset will be getting to 350Mhz or higher with respect to stability. On the other hand, you state that many of the Intel chipsets seem happy to get to FSBs of 400Mhz+.

I do not think I am a complete incompetent on the subject, if you could tell me why I would be greatful. I'm not sure what it might be, is it due to overheating of the chipset, is it due to locked FSB settings on the Conroe CPUs and the BIOS allowing them to be unlocked but the chipset not supporting it? Or is it having to do with the FSB speed to the RAM being limited to through the chipset?

Please be a little more descript, I would really like to try to know, if not currently capable of understanding, I can look it up.
 
I've been poking around the Intel website and I see nothing directly related to your statement/question. All I can find on intel.com is this, which is general warranty information. 30 days, lots of hassle, nothing too special. Link

I tried calling Intel via phone, but at 4AM they are closed. :evil: Newegg says the E6300 - Close enough to what you are talking about, I assume - is warranted "by the manufacturer only." However, there is a "2 year Service Net replacement plan" - @39.99USD that's a little too ghei for my taste.

Interesting question, were you referring to the entire line of new Intels, including all the Core 2 Duo ones or were you referring only to the Extreme Series. I think the Extremes are the only ones that have an unlocked FSB up or down. Designed for overclocking indeed. :?
 
I suppose I can accept that as an answer, however it is not very satisfying. You could have said something technical like "the chipset architecture is designed on different technology," or "the nForce chipsets only allow so much power flow to the CPU before getting unstable," or something like that. I'm going to keep reading and attempt to find a more complete answer. Thank you for what you have stated. :?
 
I see. Thanks for the clarification. Not sure you would be a peep to ask as you seem not all too interested in the Asus P5N32-SLI board with the 590 chipset, but apparently - from zeus.asus.com - it comes with built in wi-fi and an antennae. However, the 590 chipset features include dual-net - dual onboard LANs. When I look at the pic - Link I see what looks like dual-LAN controllers. From other board views, I assume that this will be included Dual-Net support.

My question is, is this board really coming with dual LANs and wi-fi all built in?

LAN #1 = Porn
LAN #2 = Games
Wi-Fi = Everything that's not porn or games.

:twisted:
 
In Answer To BarryJohn [Only]

I just contacted ASUStek and they said they will be releasing the motherboard tomorrow at 10:00am and retailers like NewEgg and TD will have them on their webpages ready at 3:00pm
Click to expand...

Guess you were misinformed, eh? Nothing anywhere as far as I can tell. I also hope your were misinformed about that $280 price tag. That's just too much to spend on a MB.
 
Just what I was thinking, had to get second opinion before I go ejaculate in my pants. Actually, disregard that, I don't think that mobo is that sweet. It is sweet though. I'm going to sleep, I've spent about 13 hours on this thing today reading about stuff related to stuff related to computers. In the morning I shall have many new questions. 8)

Anyone have any other news on release dates? Little less vague than September perhaps?
 
Didnt you read the title of that reply? It says for BerryJohn only! it was to joke with him because he wanted to listen that so I just wrote it to bother him.

Also I come and I see 30 new answers...

1) Please stop with the fighting stuff, we are here to help each other and give usefull information. Any useless information will just be disregarded.

2) If you dont agree with this motherboard to be a good overclocker, then why are you here wasting your time here? We can see how well it does perform when it comes out, then it will be a plessure to come and talk about it.

3) I heard that people figured out that TD was wrong with the P5N32-SLI SE, Yes they are, the P5N32-SLI SE still uses the nForce 4 SLI 16x chipset. According to TD they use the nForce 570, but they just dont know anything what they are talking about.

4) For some reason this motherboard is taking so long to be released right? Maybe because ASUS is working on a great BIOS? or to make the motherboard as stable as possible? According to that Zeus ASUS webpage, the P5N32-SLI Premium will have a 600MHZ FSB (133Mhz in 1Mhz increment) And also we have the other overclocking options on the PCI-Express, RAm etc.... Dont you think this is what is taking so long for the motherboard to be released? Because I believe that is what is taking long for ATI to release his RD600 too. We dont want motherboards that when you get to 500Mhz FSB, they just crash.

For everybody else, We know everything posted on the other webpages before August 25. Dont post anything older than 1 day because we might already have post it. And if we dont, it would be nice to read it from you.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom