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I just turned 40, and I guess I'm a part of the original "Pac-man
generation". I was initially put off by modern games, but I've recently
decided to take a look at some of the games of today available on the
PC platform.

I am particluarly interested in the competitive aspect of gaming and
was hoping to get some advice on what games I should pick up to start.

Now since this is only my first foray into PC gaming, and I don't have
any high end hardware, the newest games are obviously not an option,
but can I get recommendations on some older, competitive "First person
shooters" that I can practice on?

The system I have is only a 1Gig Pentium 3, with 1Gig of ram and I will
be getting a new Video card since my ATI-AIW is from the last century.

A video card recommendation would also be appreciated, but I'm
considering picking up one of the following:
1) ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO
2) RADEON X800 PRO

...providing they aren't over-kill for my sytem. 🙂

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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<Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
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> I just turned 40, and I guess I'm a part of the original "Pac-man
> generation". I was initially put off by modern games, but I've recently
> decided to take a look at some of the games of today available on the
> PC platform.
>
> I am particluarly interested in the competitive aspect of gaming and
> was hoping to get some advice on what games I should pick up to start.
>
> Now since this is only my first foray into PC gaming, and I don't have
> any high end hardware, the newest games are obviously not an option,
> but can I get recommendations on some older, competitive "First person
> shooters" that I can practice on?
>
> The system I have is only a 1Gig Pentium 3, with 1Gig of ram and I will
> be getting a new Video card since my ATI-AIW is from the last century.
>
> A video card recommendation would also be appreciated, but I'm
> considering picking up one of the following:
> 1) ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO
> 2) RADEON X800 PRO
>
> ..providing they aren't over-kill for my sytem. 🙂
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Darren Harris
> Staten Island, New York.
>

Geesh,
40 ain't old.
These games are arguably the best IMHO:

1/ Deus Ex/role playing and first person shooter(RP/FPS)
2/ Max Payne 1 / as above but linear
3/ Call of Duty / excellent multi-play mode
4/ Castle Wolfenstein / jump from your seat action
5/ Any of the Delta Force series....2 is best.....3 you
need a 3d video card.

There.
That should keep you busy.
Good Luck
Tec
 
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Thanks everyone.

I don't know what I was thinking when I said "RADEON X800 PRO". I just
want to get the best video card for this particular system without
going overboard.(I'm not thinking about transferring the card to a
higher end system in the future, because by that time the higher end
hardware will be different anyway).

I was considering one of the ATI All-In-Wonder cards. The idea was to
get whichever one would be just enough so that the 1Gig CPU on my
motherboard is still the bottleneck. Anything more than that would be
wasted, and I'd rather get non gamer related features on the card
video.(Hence my idea for that ATI AIW).

***But since I'll also need to do some video editing involving *major*
bandwidth, that may change things.

(BTW. I have Windows 98-SE and Windows XP).

As for competition. Being an old schooler 🙂 I'm tend not to be into
the team aspect of game playing, because the games I excelled at
involved me against the machine.(I have 1/2 dozen full-sized
coin-operated arcade games in my apartment, and intend to get back to
my quest of taking down and regaining some world records this year).

Anyway, FPS games seems to be where it's at, so that is what I want to
concentrate on.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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Thanks.

Does this mean that under less powerful than the 9600 Pro AIW can be a
bottle neck in my system? 🙂

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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> Let me be the first to welcome you to the 40 club. 😉
>
> As to a new video card, IMHO, getting an X800 Pro is probably
overkill with
> the current cpu/mb that you have. Are you planning on upgrading
cpu/mb
> down the road too?
>
> Also, do you "need" an All-In-Wonder video card? If you don't need
to
> capture/edit video, you can probably save some $ and get an ATI 9800
Pro
> 128mb or the Nvidia 5900 128mb. Make sure that you don't get the
stripped
> down versions of these cards; like the SE version.
>
> Check out the two links below for video card reviews. You should be
able
> to see some interesting benchmarks on several different video cards.
BTW
> what video card slot does your mb support? PCI or AGP?
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/
> http://www.anandtech.com/video/
>
> Finally, here's a few games that you might find interesting (in no
order):
>
> Rise of Nations
> No One Lives Forever 1 & 2
> Joint Ops (huge online maps with up to 150 players)
> Call of Duty
> Serious Sam (IMHO the best online coop missions todate)
> IL2 Forgotten Battles (WWII Flight sim)
> Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
>
>
> Recommend that you read reviews on the above and always try to get a
demo to
> get a feel for the game.
>
> http://www.metacritic.com/games/pc/

Thanks.

My motherboard(which is an ASUS CUV4X) supports 4X AGP.

I will be doing some video editing, but that may require a whole
different card, since the memory bandwidth will probably need to be
256bits.(I don't think I can get anything higher than that).

Anyway, thanks again. 🙂

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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Searcher7@mail.con2.com wrote:
> The system I have is only a 1Gig Pentium 3, with 1Gig of ram
[...]
> A video card recommendation would also be appreciated, but I'm
> considering picking up one of the following:
> 1) ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO
> 2) RADEON X800 PRO

I would *think* (someone will correct me in a moment if I'm wrong) that both
those cards are way too powerful for your system, your processor won't be
able to push stuff to the card at anything like the rate they're capable of
processing it.

I would imagine you could get a card for quite a bit less cash that would
perform pretty much the same on a 1GHz P3. Not sure of anything that I could
specifically recommend (perhaps a GeForce Ti4200? Though I don't know if
they still sell these new), but once again, someone else will be along
shortly to fill in the gaps. :)

--

(O) e n o n e
 
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1gig hz P3 aint that bad.....The Radeon 9800 Pro ..around at bargin say £100
/ $200 would be just fine the X800 r at least £250 / $450 ..dont tink there
worth it yet,,,but you would be able to use one & carry forward for some
years to a new machine..
Your Graphics card will need to be able to use DIRECT 8 or 9 ..maybe get
game demos from somewhere like http://www.demoindex.com/ or a magazine
cover disc to test your system..& tastes...lots older game demos here
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pc/games/pcgameworld/demos/

What do u mean when u say ",,competitive aspect of gaming ..." ..online
games perhaps ..that is u want games where you r playing other
(real..sort-of) people ? rather than just the comp.?

What OS do you use Windows 98 or XP ? ..1 or 2 of most recent games have to
have XP.

Perhaps consider Role Play type games ..."Elder Scrolls 3-Morrowind"
HalLife 2 would prob. run on your 1ghz ,,but it has horrid setup/install
demands
I know !!..the original HalLife will run on most things...has an
undermanding Software graphic mode...in an all-things-consided poll of the
greatest Pc action-shooter games it will still come top (probebly !)..
Luv mouse ...(dont play to much or by the time your 50+ it will completly
ruin your ability to spell) @@@@@@
 
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Thusly Searcher7@mail.con2.com Spake Unto All:

>I am particluarly interested in the competitive aspect of gaming and
>was hoping to get some advice on what games I should pick up to start.

If you're going for online multiplayer competition, I would recommend
Half-Life: Counterstrike. This the original counterstrike should run
acceptably on your system, while the new Counterstrike: Source is
likely too much for your processor. The single-player game (Half-Life)
is also very good, and you might want to try it before entering online
multiplayer competition.

Another possibility would be Quake3, which however has few
practitioners now. Quake3 is less team-oriented than Counterstrike,
has faster pace, and a sci-fi theme.

Some stats: http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/
(If you click on "Half-life" you see it is pretty much all original
Counterstrike)
 
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Thusly "Oenone" <oenone@nowhere.com> Spake Unto All:

>I would imagine you could get a card for quite a bit less cash that would
>perform pretty much the same on a 1GHz P3. Not sure of anything that I could
>specifically recommend (perhaps a GeForce Ti4200?

Yes, they still make those and yes, it would be more than enough that
the processor would still be the bottleneck. And it will play pretty
much anything, although not at high resolution.
 
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Mean_Chlorine wrote:
> Another possibility would be Quake3, which however has few
> practitioners now. Quake3 is less team-oriented than Counterstrike,
> has faster pace, and a sci-fi theme.

Not quite Sci-Fi; more Gothic.

Actually, it varies from map to map. Each Tier seems to have its own theme.
 
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> The idea was to get whichever one would be just enough so that the
> 1Gig CPU on my motherboard is still the bottleneck. Anything more
> than that would be wasted, and I'd rather get non gamer related
> features on the card video.(Hence my idea for that ATI AIW).

9800 pro AIW if it doesn't hurt your budget; otherwise, the 9600 pro AIW
will be just as good on your system.


> As for competition. Being an old schooler 🙂 I'm tend not to be into
> the team aspect of game playing, because the games I excelled at
> involved me against the machine.(I have 1/2 dozen full-sized
> coin-operated arcade games in my apartment, and intend to get back to
> my quest of taking down and regaining some world records this year).
>
> Anyway, FPS games seems to be where it's at, so that is what I want
> to concentrate on.

(** is an older game)

**Half-Life (the most popular FPS of all time)
**Unreal Tournament (my personal all-time favorite shooter)
*Unreal Tournament 2004 (don't buy the 2003 version)
**System Shock 2 (FP horror, survival, RPG, shooter)
**Serious Sam (pure nonstop action)
*Painkiller (cool weapons, tough bosses)
**Battlefield 1942
*Call of Duty

You might like **Quake3 since you aren't an experienced shooter, the
game is fun but somewhat dry and gets old fairly quickly.

Don't dimiss the team based games, there is a reason they are very
popular.
--
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"Mac Cool" <Mac@2cool.com> wrote in message
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>> The idea was to get whichever one would be just enough so that the
>> 1Gig CPU on my motherboard is still the bottleneck. Anything more
>> than that would be wasted, and I'd rather get non gamer related
>> features on the card video.(Hence my idea for that ATI AIW).
>
> 9800 pro AIW if it doesn't hurt your budget; otherwise, the 9600 pro AIW
> will be just as good on your system.
>
>
>> As for competition. Being an old schooler 🙂 I'm tend not to be into
>> the team aspect of game playing, because the games I excelled at
>> involved me against the machine.(I have 1/2 dozen full-sized
>> coin-operated arcade games in my apartment, and intend to get back to
>> my quest of taking down and regaining some world records this year).
>>
>> Anyway, FPS games seems to be where it's at, so that is what I want
>> to concentrate on.
>
> (** is an older game)
>
> **Half-Life (the most popular FPS of all time)
> **Unreal Tournament (my personal all-time favorite shooter)
> *Unreal Tournament 2004 (don't buy the 2003 version)
> **System Shock 2 (FP horror, survival, RPG, shooter)
> **Serious Sam (pure nonstop action)
> *Painkiller (cool weapons, tough bosses)
> **Battlefield 1942
> *Call of Duty
>
> You might like **Quake3 since you aren't an experienced shooter, the
> game is fun but somewhat dry and gets old fairly quickly.
>
> Don't dimiss the team based games, there is a reason they are very
> popular.

Yeah, I'd throw in Ghost Recon, Operation: Flashpoint and Rainbow Six for
"team games" that aren't multiplayer. Although, I had trouble running GR at
acceptable framerates on my old 1ghz processor, but I only had a 64Mb card.
Personally, I'd recommend the 9600 Pro 256mb card for that processor. A
9800 is probably fine, too, just a bit overkill for that processor.

turk
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more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H. L. Mencken,
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<Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
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> I just turned 40, and I guess I'm a part of the original "Pac-man
> generation". I was initially put off by modern games, but I've recently
> decided to take a look at some of the games of today available on the
> PC platform.
>
> I am particluarly interested in the competitive aspect of gaming and
> was hoping to get some advice on what games I should pick up to start.
>
> Now since this is only my first foray into PC gaming, and I don't have
> any high end hardware, the newest games are obviously not an option,
> but can I get recommendations on some older, competitive "First person
> shooters" that I can practice on?
>
> The system I have is only a 1Gig Pentium 3, with 1Gig of ram and I will
> be getting a new Video card since my ATI-AIW is from the last century.
>
> A video card recommendation would also be appreciated, but I'm
> considering picking up one of the following:
> 1) ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO
> 2) RADEON X800 PRO
>
> ..providing they aren't over-kill for my sytem. 🙂
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Darren Harris
> Staten Island, New York.
>

Let me be the first to welcome you to the 40 club. 😉

As to a new video card, IMHO, getting an X800 Pro is probably overkill with
the current cpu/mb that you have. Are you planning on upgrading cpu/mb
down the road too?

Also, do you "need" an All-In-Wonder video card? If you don't need to
capture/edit video, you can probably save some $ and get an ATI 9800 Pro
128mb or the Nvidia 5900 128mb. Make sure that you don't get the stripped
down versions of these cards; like the SE version.

Check out the two links below for video card reviews. You should be able
to see some interesting benchmarks on several different video cards. BTW
what video card slot does your mb support? PCI or AGP?

http://www.tomshardware.com/
http://www.anandtech.com/video/

Finally, here's a few games that you might find interesting (in no order):

Rise of Nations
No One Lives Forever 1 & 2
Joint Ops (huge online maps with up to 150 players)
Call of Duty
Serious Sam (IMHO the best online coop missions todate)
IL2 Forgotten Battles (WWII Flight sim)
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic


Recommend that you read reviews on the above and always try to get a demo to
get a feel for the game.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/pc/
 
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On 13 Feb 2005 20:30:34 -0800, Searcher7@mail.con2.com wrote:

>Does this mean that under less powerful than the 9600 Pro AIW can be a
>bottle neck in my system? 🙂

That would be a reasonable match for your processor which will still
be the bottleneck.
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Searcher7@mail.con2.com wrote:
> I just turned 40, and I guess I'm a part of the original "Pac-man
> generation". I was initially put off by modern games, but I've
> recently decided to take a look at some of the games of today
> available on the PC platform.

Dude we're at about the same point. The difference is I never quit playing
games. I think I got to the 9th key in Pac Man but it's a little foggy
now...

Anyway I'd look for a used Radeon 9800 Pro on Ebay for your graphics needs.
It's more than powerful enough for your 1gh Pentium. In fact a 9500/9600Pro
would be fine and save you a few bucks. Anything more is wasting money.

The hit list of action games from the last few years include some that
should not be missed. They should all be in the bargain bin. In order of
the number of hours I wasted playing them:

1. Half-Life, the original, and it's add-ons. Especially Team Fortress
Classic, it's online cousin (included for free).
2. Call of Duty, probably playable
3. Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Great game, especially if anybody's
playing it online anymore.

That should keep you busy through 2005. Other fun ones:

4. No One Lives Forever, parts I and II.
5. System Shock II - A lot of role-playing but still the best action game
ever made.

Don't waste your time with Doom3 / Half-Life II / Battlefield, any of the
late 2004 releases really, if/until you upgrade your rig.

GS.
 
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<Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
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> I just turned 40, and I guess I'm a part of the original "Pac-man
> generation". I was initially put off by modern games, but I've recently
> decided to take a look at some of the games of today available on the
> PC platform.
>
> I am particluarly interested in the competitive aspect of gaming and
> was hoping to get some advice on what games I should pick up to start.
>
> Now since this is only my first foray into PC gaming, and I don't have
> any high end hardware, the newest games are obviously not an option,
> but can I get recommendations on some older, competitive "First person
> shooters" that I can practice on?
>
> The system I have is only a 1Gig Pentium 3, with 1Gig of ram and I will
> be getting a new Video card since my ATI-AIW is from the last century.
>
> A video card recommendation would also be appreciated, but I'm
> considering picking up one of the following:
> 1) ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO
> 2) RADEON X800 PRO
>
> ..providing they aren't over-kill for my sytem. 🙂
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Darren Harris
> Staten Island, New York.
>

40 ain't old. I'm 50 and not the oldest around here. I love Call of Duty
(keep going back to it) as a FPS. Half-life 2 has great graphics and
interplay (not quite as involving as the original). I would think both would
run on your system (although not at optimum--Half life is supposed to be
tamed for older systems--but I don't know for sure, others will know
better). I also loved Ghost Recon and Splinter Cell (they are both old
enough that they should run on your system).
As far as video cards, I got at an ATI 9800 Pro and love it, but to each his
own.

--
Dr. Dickie
Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438
Poking kooks with a pointy stick
Proud member of the, "Vast right-wing conspiracy."
 
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On 13 Feb 2005, Searcher7@mail.con2.com wrote:

many gamers have already given you excellent suggestions for good games
what i would only like to add is...
first, currently in pc games there is a sort of "war" going on between
us gamers and a game company named valve with a thing called steam
steam is many things but to make it short let me say it's a extremely
intrusive and damaging copy-protection controlling monitoring spyware
program that effectively takes away most of your consumer rights which
we gamers have gained over the years

my recommendation to you is to read about valve and steam and boycott
any games based on steam being sold in retail
the only steam based game currently being sold in retail channel is
half-life 2 and you should like many others gamers did say NO to it

i presume you are a real gamer who wants its games in a package like it
should always be... i'm writing about this cause there is a wave in the
industry that wants to force us into buying via download which in games
is completely wrong... pc games must always be a package product! with
a real physical cd-rom and box!

next what i would recommend you is to trying and get games older than 4
years old from budget dedicated publishers like sold-out and xplosiv
the advantage is low price and being new, the other alternatives are
you getting the games in the 2nd hand market or going for distributors
that have surplus inventory of old games
regardless of what you choose you must understand getting old but still
very good and playable pc games is very cheap!
currently you don't have to pay much to buy and play great pc games!
but stick with non steam based games and budget dedicated publishers or
surplus inventory companies

my final words
old pc games are still excellent and extremely enjoyable and playable
old pc games can be obtain either new or used with very low prices
buy always your pc games in a package! in a real box! in a cd/dvd!
and say NO to steam

--
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i said "NO" to valve and steam

against steam campaign
http://nosteam.afterdarknet.at/

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http://www.steamwatch.org/

please sign petition "Say NO! to Steam!" available at:
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Thusly Mac Cool <Mac@2cool.com> Spake Unto All:

>You might like **Quake3 since you aren't an experienced shooter, the
>game is fun but somewhat dry and gets old fairly quickly.

I still think it beats the pants off UT or Counterstrike.

>Don't dimiss the team based games, there is a reason they are very
>popular.

Yeah, that individual skill doesn't matter, and that you get to use
headsets to coordinate with your teammates.
 
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Thus spake Searcher7@mail.con2.com, 13 Feb 2005 13:42:03 -0800, Anno Domini:

>I just turned 40, and I guess I'm a part of the original "Pac-man
>generation". I was initially put off by modern games, but I've recently
>decided to take a look at some of the games of today available on the
>PC platform.
>
>I am particluarly interested in the competitive aspect of gaming and
>was hoping to get some advice on what games I should pick up to start.
>
>Now since this is only my first foray into PC gaming, and I don't have
>any high end hardware, the newest games are obviously not an option,
>but can I get recommendations on some older, competitive "First person
>shooters" that I can practice on?

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. It's a fully-featured online WWII fps that is
completely *free*.

>The system I have is only a 1Gig Pentium 3, with 1Gig of ram and I will
>be getting a new Video card since my ATI-AIW is from the last century.
>
>A video card recommendation would also be appreciated, but I'm
>considering picking up one of the following:
>1) ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO
>2) RADEON X800 PRO
>
>..providing they aren't over-kill for my sytem. 🙂
>
>Thanks a lot.
>
>Darren Harris
>Staten Island, New York.

For that system get a 9800Pro - should be significantly cheaper than the
X800 & will do almost anything out today.

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Sometimes I just want it to stay saved! You know, for a little bit?
I feel like the maid; "I just cleaned up this mess! Can we keep it clean for... for ten minutes!"

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Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:

>Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. It's a fully-featured online WWII fps that is
>completely *free*.

I'm not sure Wolfenstein 3D would run acceptably on a 1GHz machine.
 
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<Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
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> I just turned 40, and I guess I'm a part of the original "Pac-man
> generation". I was initially put off by modern games, but I've recently
> decided to take a look at some of the games of today available on the
> PC platform.
>
> I am particluarly interested in the competitive aspect of gaming and
> was hoping to get some advice on what games I should pick up to start.
>
> Now since this is only my first foray into PC gaming, and I don't have
> any high end hardware, the newest games are obviously not an option,
> but can I get recommendations on some older, competitive "First person
> shooters" that I can practice on?
>
> The system I have is only a 1Gig Pentium 3, with 1Gig of ram and I will
> be getting a new Video card since my ATI-AIW is from the last century.
>
> A video card recommendation would also be appreciated, but I'm
> considering picking up one of the following:
> 1) ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO
> 2) RADEON X800 PRO
>
> ..providing they aren't over-kill for my sytem. 🙂
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Darren Harris
> Staten Island, New York.
>

If no-one has allready mentioned them then can I suggest

Thief 1 & 2 - will run like a dream on your set up. Thief coined the term
First Person Sneaker back in 1998/99. Highly addictive game where you spend
a lot of your time lurking in shadows - a lot more fun than it sounds ;-)

System Shock 2 - will also run like a dream. Sci-Fi horror on board a
stricken spaceship.

TBH mate, there are too many great games for you to play!

and check out Deus Ex (the first one)
 
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"RichGK" <sss.ee@rrr.rr> wrote in message
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>
> <Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
> news:1108330923.734402.163970@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > I just turned 40, and I guess I'm a part of the original "Pac-man
> > generation". I was initially put off by modern games, but I've recently
> > decided to take a look at some of the games of today available on the
> > PC platform.
> >
> > I am particluarly interested in the competitive aspect of gaming and
> > was hoping to get some advice on what games I should pick up to start.
> >
> > Now since this is only my first foray into PC gaming, and I don't have
> > any high end hardware, the newest games are obviously not an option,
> > but can I get recommendations on some older, competitive "First person
> > shooters" that I can practice on?
> >
> > The system I have is only a 1Gig Pentium 3, with 1Gig of ram and I will
> > be getting a new Video card since my ATI-AIW is from the last century.
> >
> > A video card recommendation would also be appreciated, but I'm
> > considering picking up one of the following:
> > 1) ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO
> > 2) RADEON X800 PRO
> >
> > ..providing they aren't over-kill for my sytem. 🙂
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> > Darren Harris
> > Staten Island, New York.
> >
>
> If no-one has allready mentioned them then can I suggest
>
> Thief 1 & 2 - will run like a dream on your set up. Thief coined the term
> First Person Sneaker back in 1998/99. Highly addictive game where you
spend
> a lot of your time lurking in shadows - a lot more fun than it sounds ;-)
>
> System Shock 2 - will also run like a dream. Sci-Fi horror on board a
> stricken spaceship.
>
> TBH mate, there are too many great games for you to play!
>
> and check out Deus Ex (the first one)
>

Yeah, I gotta say that I loved Thief (played 1 and 3, missed 2).
I also missed System Shock, I will have to rectify that.

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<Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
>
> My motherboard(which is an ASUS CUV4X) supports 4X AGP.
>
> I will be doing some video editing, but that may require a whole
> different card, since the memory bandwidth will probably need to be
> 256bits.(I don't think I can get anything higher than that).
>
> Anyway, thanks again. 🙂

Well then you *will* need a fast separate drive for the video!
 
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Those cards that you have listed will be bottlenecked by the other older
slower components in your system.

--
DaveW



<Searcher7@mail.con2.com> wrote in message
news:1108330923.734402.163970@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>I just turned 40, and I guess I'm a part of the original "Pac-man
> generation". I was initially put off by modern games, but I've recently
> decided to take a look at some of the games of today available on the
> PC platform.
>
> I am particluarly interested in the competitive aspect of gaming and
> was hoping to get some advice on what games I should pick up to start.
>
> Now since this is only my first foray into PC gaming, and I don't have
> any high end hardware, the newest games are obviously not an option,
> but can I get recommendations on some older, competitive "First person
> shooters" that I can practice on?
>
> The system I have is only a 1Gig Pentium 3, with 1Gig of ram and I will
> be getting a new Video card since my ATI-AIW is from the last century.
>
> A video card recommendation would also be appreciated, but I'm
> considering picking up one of the following:
> 1) ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO
> 2) RADEON X800 PRO
>
> ..providing they aren't over-kill for my sytem. 🙂
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Darren Harris
> Staten Island, New York.
>
 
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I grew up on mostly on Doom II and lots of the older Apple games like
Montazuma's Revenge and the Bard's Tale series. As long as were
discussing game recommendations, my girlfriend and I like to play on
the LAN but are getting sick of 1-on-1 deathmatches, which of the games
mentioned allow team play against the computer like Doom II Collectors
Ed.? It would have been great to play Half-Life with her, rather than
just running around empty buildings and blowing her up. Thanks.

Carlo
 
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