Question PC stability issues in games.

[Threshis]

I build a budget gaming PC about 2.5 months ago. my rig:

CPU: R5 5600x PBO OFF
GRAPHICS CARD: RTX 4060
M.2 SSD: WD Blue SN580

MOBO: Gigabyte A520M K V2 (I know not the best mobo but for the hard budget i was on i thought it would be good)
PSU: Be Quiet! System Power 10 550W Bronze rated.

What ive done:
CPU stress test: Cinebench (no overheating)
GPU stress test: 3D mark, Furmark. (no overheating)
OCC power test: 10 minutes: no errors no overheating no crash.
Updated / downgraded drivers to see if any problems went way.
and lots and lots more.

since i build the pc ive had problems with stutters. i figured the stutters were a problem with the games i played: Elder scrolls online, Sekiro, Elden ring. Eso is notorius for stuttering so i cant test in that game. Sekiro had some "loading stutters" other people have them too when transitioning into a new area. Elden ring was really really bad until i fixed something bugged with the game. but now its getting worse the stutters. in elden ring i drop like 10 fps randomly. in tekken 8 there is something called fight lounge with a lot of people there and every time it loads a set of people it stutters like crazy. in the witcher 3 i keep having stutters when fighting enemies (happened in elden ring too for the first time today) i dont know if im going crazy or if there is actually something wrong. i would love some help. a note about the PSU: it does have a high pitch noise coming from it even when the PC is off. but testing power with OCCT resulted in no errors crashes or volt rails being low or anything. in HWINFO i do have a problem with power reporting deviation which dropped all the way to 80%

 

[Aeacus]

Hmm...

Stutters can be caused by RAM issue.
So, what RAM you have and what's their frequency? Since Ryzen loves high frequency RAM.

Wouldn't hurt to test the RAM with memtest86. 4 full passes (all 15 tests, 4 times over) is acceptable.

Another issue could be high PSU ripple. And that, your low quality PSU, is confirmed to have,
review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/be-quiet-system-power-10-750w/12.html

Ripple represent the AC fluctuations (periodic) and noise (random) found in the PSU's DC rails. This phenomenon significantly decreases the capacitors' lifespan because it causes them to run hotter. A 10-degree Celsius increase can cut into a cap's useful life by 50%. Ripple also plays an important role in overall system stability, especially when overclocking is involved.

So, i'd get new PSU regardless.
Good PSUs to go for, are: Seasonic Focus/Vertex/PRIME, Corsair RMx/RMi/HXi/AXi, Super Flower Leadex Gold/Platinum/Titanium.

(All 3x of my PCs are also powered by Seasonic. I have 2x PRIME TX-650 units and 1x Focus PX-550 unit. Full specs with pics in my sig.)

 

[Threshis]

Hmm...

Stutters can be caused by RAM issue.
So, what RAM you have and what's their frequency? Since Ryzen loves high frequency RAM.

Wouldn't hurt to test the RAM with memtest86. 4 full passes (all 15 tests, 4 times over) is acceptable.

Another issue could be high PSU ripple. And that, your low quality PSU, is confirmed to have,
review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/be-quiet-system-power-10-750w/12.html



So, i'd get new PSU regardless.
Good PSUs to go for, are: Seasonic Focus/Vertex/PRIME, Corsair RMx/RMi/HXi/AXi, Super Flower Leadex Gold/Platinum/Titanium.

(All 3x of my PCs are also powered by Seasonic. I have 2x PRIME TX-650 units and 1x Focus PX-550 unit. Full specs with pics in my sig.)

when i build my pc i did some research and i got 3600mhz ram with XMP on

i got a 550w power supply. you think the PSU could cause stutters ? all volt rails are stable. drops a little during very heavy load but thats to be expected. the stutters mostly occur aswell during asset loading. or NPC loading etc pretty wierd. but not all games have it.

 

[Aeacus]

when i build my pc i did some research and i got 3600mhz ram with XMP on

Okay, but why you didn't research PSUs?

i got a 550w power supply.

PSU make and model (or part number) is? Also, how old the PSU is, and was the PSU bought new or used/refurbished?

you think the PSU could cause stutters ?

Yes, it can, when it produces high ripple. Which your Be Quiet! unit does.

all volt rails are stable. drops a little during very heavy load but thats to be expected.

How much is "little"? Since if it is more than 5% on +12V rail, it is out of ATX PSU spec.

System Power 10, 750W unit reviewed poorly, with very loose rail regulation and very high ripple, even failing one of the ripple tests.
Review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/be-quiet-system-power-10-750w/4.html

For comparison, i'm running Seasonic PRIME 650 80+ Titanium [SSR-650TD] and you can look from review how my unit fares,
voltage regulation: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690-4.html
ripple: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690-9.html

Whereby, my PSU has +12V rail voltage regulation at 0.37%. That's mythical levels of voltage regulation. System Power 10 has it at ~2.2% on +12V rail, worse on minor rails.
I can call my PSU rails stable. You - not so much.

My PSU ripple, at most, on 110% load, is 13.3mV. System Power 10 failed 110% load test, with insane 124.0mV. ATX PSU spec defines no more than 120mV ripple.
Ripple wise, System Power 10, at it's very best, 20% load 36.4mV on +12V rail, doesn't come even close to my unit. Easy 3x times higher ripple compared to the worst of what my unit produces.

And efficiency isn't comparable either. You have 80+ Bronze, i have 80+ Titanium, highest efficiency there is.

Like i said, you have low quality PSU. While i have great quality PSU and it was the best 650W PSU money could buy back in 2016. Even today, Seasonic PRIME 650 80+ Titanium, is one of the best (if not the best) PSU out there.

Keep in mind: since PSU powers everything, it is the most important component inside the PC! (Hence why i'm running the best there is.)

 

[Threshis]

Okay, but why you didn't research PSUs?


PSU make and model (or part number) is? Also, how old the PSU is, and was the PSU bought new or used/refurbished?


Yes, it can, when it produces high ripple. Which your Be Quiet! unit does.


How much is "little"? Since if it is more than 5% on +12V rail, it is out of ATX PSU spec.

System Power 10, 750W unit reviewed poorly, with very loose rail regulation and very high ripple, even failing one of the ripple tests.
Review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/be-quiet-system-power-10-750w/4.html

For comparison, i'm running Seasonic PRIME 650 80+ Titanium [SSR-650TD] and you can look from review how my unit fares,
voltage regulation: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690-4.html
ripple: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-titanium-650w-psu,4690-9.html

Whereby, my PSU has +12V rail voltage regulation at 0.37%. That's mythical levels of voltage regulation. System Power 10 has it at ~2.2% on +12V rail, worse on minor rails.
I can call my PSU rails stable. You - not so much.

My PSU ripple, at most, on 110% load, is 13.3mV. System Power 10 failed 110% load test, with insane 124.0mV. ATX PSU spec defines no more than 120mV ripple.
Ripple wise, System Power 10, at it's very best, 20% load 36.4mV on +12V rail, doesn't come even close to my unit. Easy 3x times higher ripple compared to the worst of what my unit produces.

And efficiency isn't comparable either. You have 80+ Bronze, i have 80+ Titanium, highest efficiency there is.

Like i said, you have low quality PSU. While i have great quality PSU and it was the best 650W PSU money could buy back in 2016. Even today, Seasonic PRIME 650 80+ Titanium, is one of the best (if not the best) PSU out there.

Keep in mind: since PSU powers everything, it is the most important component inside the PC! (Hence why i'm running the best there is.)

volt rails are as far as i know within ATX +- 5% specs
I have a Be Quiet! System Power 10 550W Bronze rated not a 750w here is a picture of volt rails. this is with games running like: elder scrolls online and elden ring and tekken 8 withing this time span. during stress test my 12v rail never drops below 12.024

my volt rails were after 5.5 hours of gaming 12volt: minimum 11.952 MAX: 12.240 avarage 12.126