PCI modems don't work?

[Guest]

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I saw this with an A7V600, and the same with my new A7N8x-E deluxe...

Tried a Creative modem blaster I had at work (new). I have only dial
up at home, so I need a modem (rural area, no DSL...can't afford
satellite DSL equipment).

While the Creative worked in older machines, it never worked in the
A7V600, and only was able to dial out once on the A7N8X-E.

The modem would respond to queries just fine, no apparent IRQ or COM
conflicts (it defaulted to COM3, though I tried other COM ports, too).
Modem would simply never grab a dial tone upon dial out (except one
time only, and there really were no changes I made that should have
made that difference).

Having found a U.S. Robotics 56K external at work, I tried it. Works
perfectly every tiime. I even flashed its ROM with V.92 upgrades and
newest drivers from USR. as I say, works like a charm. Will continue
to use it, but very curious why the PCIs won't work. Have also talked
to someone at work who can't get a PCI modem to work either, although
besides running WinXP I don't know his configuration. I'm running
Win2K Pro, BTW.

TIA

 

[Paul]

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In article <7eo270d1tb4nmgh0oslfu84gu81p4dso9d@4ax.com>, Rivergoat
<goat@goathead.com> wrote:

> I saw this with an A7V600, and the same with my new A7N8x-E deluxe...
>
> Tried a Creative modem blaster I had at work (new). I have only dial
> up at home, so I need a modem (rural area, no DSL...can't afford
> satellite DSL equipment).
>
> While the Creative worked in older machines, it never worked in the
> A7V600, and only was able to dial out once on the A7N8X-E.
>
> The modem would respond to queries just fine, no apparent IRQ or COM
> conflicts (it defaulted to COM3, though I tried other COM ports, too).
> Modem would simply never grab a dial tone upon dial out (except one
> time only, and there really were no changes I made that should have
> made that difference).
>
> Having found a U.S. Robotics 56K external at work, I tried it. Works
> perfectly every tiime. I even flashed its ROM with V.92 upgrades and
> newest drivers from USR. as I say, works like a charm. Will continue
> to use it, but very curious why the PCIs won't work. Have also talked
> to someone at work who can't get a PCI modem to work either, although
> besides running WinXP I don't know his configuration. I'm running
> Win2K Pro, BTW.
>
> TIA

Someone posted a question about the Creative product before. Here is
a sample from Google:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=9oFz9.4424%243J4.860736%40dca1-nnrp1.news.algx.net

The chips used in products like this are used in a number of different
products. So, it is hard to pin the blame on Creative. Since it is a
soft modem, it is dependent on the drivers for all of its useful
operations. The hardware just converts the analog phone line audio
signal, into a digitized quantity. Your processor has to do some
digital signal processing, to recover the data from that analog stream.

Any vendor who sells these, would have to pay Pctel or a similar
driver company, for updates to the drivers. It is all too easy to
sell the product and not keep the drivers current with today's
common OSes.

I own a USR 56K and bought one for someone at Christmas, and the
beauty of an external modem, is they produce a serial stream. That
means much less load on the processor (no DSP necessary). I actually
compared the USR against a soft modem, and was surprised to find
that the soft modem gave about 1% more thruput. But the thing is,
the USR will be less dependent on the health of your system software,
than the soft modem will be. I'd stick with the USR and take
the 1% thruput hit.

As the Google post above suggests, it is possible other vendor's
drivers will work with the product. Maybe on the systems on which
the Modem Blaster worked, the OS was different ?

HTH,
Paul

 

[Guest]

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PCI modems work fine just need to install carefully andmake sure drivers are
up to date for the OS you're using if Its XP earlier Windows drivers may or
may not work. You ahave to clean out all reference to the driver and card
then install the card and let the wizard find it when it asks for drivers
you give it the location of the correct drivers and you should be away to
the races.


"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-0504042209470001@192.168.1.177...
> In article <7eo270d1tb4nmgh0oslfu84gu81p4dso9d@4ax.com>, Rivergoat
> <goat@goathead.com> wrote:
>
> > I saw this with an A7V600, and the same with my new A7N8x-E deluxe...
> >
> > Tried a Creative modem blaster I had at work (new). I have only dial
> > up at home, so I need a modem (rural area, no DSL...can't afford
> > satellite DSL equipment).
> >
> > While the Creative worked in older machines, it never worked in the
> > A7V600, and only was able to dial out once on the A7N8X-E.
> >
> > The modem would respond to queries just fine, no apparent IRQ or COM
> > conflicts (it defaulted to COM3, though I tried other COM ports, too).
> > Modem would simply never grab a dial tone upon dial out (except one
> > time only, and there really were no changes I made that should have
> > made that difference).
> >
> > Having found a U.S. Robotics 56K external at work, I tried it. Works
> > perfectly every tiime. I even flashed its ROM with V.92 upgrades and
> > newest drivers from USR. as I say, works like a charm. Will continue
> > to use it, but very curious why the PCIs won't work. Have also talked
> > to someone at work who can't get a PCI modem to work either, although
> > besides running WinXP I don't know his configuration. I'm running
> > Win2K Pro, BTW.
> >
> > TIA
>
> Someone posted a question about the Creative product before. Here is
> a sample from Google:
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=9oFz9.4424%243J4.860736%40dca1-nnrp1.news.algx.net
>
> The chips used in products like this are used in a number of different
> products. So, it is hard to pin the blame on Creative. Since it is a
> soft modem, it is dependent on the drivers for all of its useful
> operations. The hardware just converts the analog phone line audio
> signal, into a digitized quantity. Your processor has to do some
> digital signal processing, to recover the data from that analog stream.
>
> Any vendor who sells these, would have to pay Pctel or a similar
> driver company, for updates to the drivers. It is all too easy to
> sell the product and not keep the drivers current with today's
> common OSes.
>
> I own a USR 56K and bought one for someone at Christmas, and the
> beauty of an external modem, is they produce a serial stream. That
> means much less load on the processor (no DSP necessary). I actually
> compared the USR against a soft modem, and was surprised to find
> that the soft modem gave about 1% more thruput. But the thing is,
> the USR will be less dependent on the health of your system software,
> than the soft modem will be. I'd stick with the USR and take
> the 1% thruput hit.
>
> As the Google post above suggests, it is possible other vendor's
> drivers will work with the product. Maybe on the systems on which
> the Modem Blaster worked, the OS was different ?
>
> HTH,
> Paul

 

[Guest]

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Been there...done that...doesn't work.

Am using external USR modem and am off to the races just fine.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 15:36:25 -0400, "notritenoteri"
<coldasfire@hades.com> wrote:

>PCI modems work fine just need to install carefully andmake sure drivers are
>up to date for the OS you're using if Its XP earlier Windows drivers may or
>may not work. You ahave to clean out all reference to the driver and card
>then install the card and let the wizard find it when it asks for drivers
>you give it the location of the correct drivers and you should be away to
>the races.
>
>
>"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
>news:nospam-0504042209470001@192.168.1.177...
>> In article <7eo270d1tb4nmgh0oslfu84gu81p4dso9d@4ax.com>, Rivergoat
>> <goat@goathead.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I saw this with an A7V600, and the same with my new A7N8x-E deluxe...
>> >
>> > Tried a Creative modem blaster I had at work (new). I have only dial
>> > up at home, so I need a modem (rural area, no DSL...can't afford
>> > satellite DSL equipment).
>> >
>> > While the Creative worked in older machines, it never worked in the
>> > A7V600, and only was able to dial out once on the A7N8X-E.
>> >
>> > The modem would respond to queries just fine, no apparent IRQ or COM
>> > conflicts (it defaulted to COM3, though I tried other COM ports, too).
>> > Modem would simply never grab a dial tone upon dial out (except one
>> > time only, and there really were no changes I made that should have
>> > made that difference).
>> >
>> > Having found a U.S. Robotics 56K external at work, I tried it. Works
>> > perfectly every tiime. I even flashed its ROM with V.92 upgrades and
>> > newest drivers from USR. as I say, works like a charm. Will continue
>> > to use it, but very curious why the PCIs won't work. Have also talked
>> > to someone at work who can't get a PCI modem to work either, although
>> > besides running WinXP I don't know his configuration. I'm running
>> > Win2K Pro, BTW.
>> >
>> > TIA
>>
>> Someone posted a question about the Creative product before. Here is
>> a sample from Google:
>>
>>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=9oFz9.4424%243J4.860736%40dca1-nnrp1.news.algx.net
>>
>> The chips used in products like this are used in a number of different
>> products. So, it is hard to pin the blame on Creative. Since it is a
>> soft modem, it is dependent on the drivers for all of its useful
>> operations. The hardware just converts the analog phone line audio
>> signal, into a digitized quantity. Your processor has to do some
>> digital signal processing, to recover the data from that analog stream.
>>
>> Any vendor who sells these, would have to pay Pctel or a similar
>> driver company, for updates to the drivers. It is all too easy to
>> sell the product and not keep the drivers current with today's
>> common OSes.
>>
>> I own a USR 56K and bought one for someone at Christmas, and the
>> beauty of an external modem, is they produce a serial stream. That
>> means much less load on the processor (no DSP necessary). I actually
>> compared the USR against a soft modem, and was surprised to find
>> that the soft modem gave about 1% more thruput. But the thing is,
>> the USR will be less dependent on the health of your system software,
>> than the soft modem will be. I'd stick with the USR and take
>> the 1% thruput hit.
>>
>> As the Google post above suggests, it is possible other vendor's
>> drivers will work with the product. Maybe on the systems on which
>> the Modem Blaster worked, the OS was different ?
>>
>> HTH,
>> Paul
>

 

[Guest]

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could be a socket/plug/cable problem. Most PCI modems are rj45 sockets where
as ex-modems are com type connectors. THe PCI modems do work I'm using one
for this right now but if the Office can supply a v92 then go for it.


"Rivergoat" <goat@goathead.com> wrote in message
news:kdj6709fepl8tkbabb2fp103vaphiqfffj@4ax.com...
> Been there...done that...doesn't work.
>
> Am using external USR modem and am off to the races just fine.
>
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 15:36:25 -0400, "notritenoteri"
> <coldasfire@hades.com> wrote:
>
> >PCI modems work fine just need to install carefully andmake sure drivers
are
> >up to date for the OS you're using if Its XP earlier Windows drivers may
or
> >may not work. You ahave to clean out all reference to the driver and
card
> >then install the card and let the wizard find it when it asks for drivers
> >you give it the location of the correct drivers and you should be away to
> >the races.
> >
> >
> >"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
> >news:nospam-0504042209470001@192.168.1.177...
> >> In article <7eo270d1tb4nmgh0oslfu84gu81p4dso9d@4ax.com>, Rivergoat
> >> <goat@goathead.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I saw this with an A7V600, and the same with my new A7N8x-E deluxe...
> >> >
> >> > Tried a Creative modem blaster I had at work (new). I have only dial
> >> > up at home, so I need a modem (rural area, no DSL...can't afford
> >> > satellite DSL equipment).
> >> >
> >> > While the Creative worked in older machines, it never worked in the
> >> > A7V600, and only was able to dial out once on the A7N8X-E.
> >> >
> >> > The modem would respond to queries just fine, no apparent IRQ or COM
> >> > conflicts (it defaulted to COM3, though I tried other COM ports,
too).
> >> > Modem would simply never grab a dial tone upon dial out (except one
> >> > time only, and there really were no changes I made that should have
> >> > made that difference).
> >> >
> >> > Having found a U.S. Robotics 56K external at work, I tried it. Works
> >> > perfectly every tiime. I even flashed its ROM with V.92 upgrades and
> >> > newest drivers from USR. as I say, works like a charm. Will continue
> >> > to use it, but very curious why the PCIs won't work. Have also talked
> >> > to someone at work who can't get a PCI modem to work either, although
> >> > besides running WinXP I don't know his configuration. I'm running
> >> > Win2K Pro, BTW.
> >> >
> >> > TIA
> >>
> >> Someone posted a question about the Creative product before. Here is
> >> a sample from Google:
> >>
> >>
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=9oFz9.4424%243J4.86
0736%40dca1-nnrp1.news.algx.net
> >>
> >> The chips used in products like this are used in a number of different
> >> products. So, it is hard to pin the blame on Creative. Since it is a
> >> soft modem, it is dependent on the drivers for all of its useful
> >> operations. The hardware just converts the analog phone line audio
> >> signal, into a digitized quantity. Your processor has to do some
> >> digital signal processing, to recover the data from that analog stream.
> >>
> >> Any vendor who sells these, would have to pay Pctel or a similar
> >> driver company, for updates to the drivers. It is all too easy to
> >> sell the product and not keep the drivers current with today's
> >> common OSes.
> >>
> >> I own a USR 56K and bought one for someone at Christmas, and the
> >> beauty of an external modem, is they produce a serial stream. That
> >> means much less load on the processor (no DSP necessary). I actually
> >> compared the USR against a soft modem, and was surprised to find
> >> that the soft modem gave about 1% more thruput. But the thing is,
> >> the USR will be less dependent on the health of your system software,
> >> than the soft modem will be. I'd stick with the USR and take
> >> the 1% thruput hit.
> >>
> >> As the Google post above suggests, it is possible other vendor's
> >> drivers will work with the product. Maybe on the systems on which
> >> the Modem Blaster worked, the OS was different ?
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> Paul
> >
>

 

[Tim]

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The guiding rule for modems is: no soft modems, no USB modems.

If you want ease of setup, use externals since they will at least work
without a driver.

I have found some of the cheap internals using rockwell chipset to be
excellent at a fraction of the cost of the USR's. Whats more they tend to
support good TAPI functionality including DTMF recognition, speech etc.

- Tim


"Rivergoat" <goat@goathead.com> wrote in message
news:7eo270d1tb4nmgh0oslfu84gu81p4dso9d@4ax.com...
> I saw this with an A7V600, and the same with my new A7N8x-E deluxe...
>
> Tried a Creative modem blaster I had at work (new). I have only dial
> up at home, so I need a modem (rural area, no DSL...can't afford
> satellite DSL equipment).
>
> While the Creative worked in older machines, it never worked in the
> A7V600, and only was able to dial out once on the A7N8X-E.
>
> The modem would respond to queries just fine, no apparent IRQ or COM
> conflicts (it defaulted to COM3, though I tried other COM ports, too).
> Modem would simply never grab a dial tone upon dial out (except one
> time only, and there really were no changes I made that should have
> made that difference).
>
> Having found a U.S. Robotics 56K external at work, I tried it. Works
> perfectly every tiime. I even flashed its ROM with V.92 upgrades and
> newest drivers from USR. as I say, works like a charm. Will continue
> to use it, but very curious why the PCIs won't work. Have also talked
> to someone at work who can't get a PCI modem to work either, although
> besides running WinXP I don't know his configuration. I'm running
> Win2K Pro, BTW.
>
> TIA