Phenom II X2 550 turns into a Phenom II X4 B50

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ok, still not getting the image to work 🙁

but like OvrClkr I'm ready to try and unlock em.... did bump up to 16.5x and no problems but I'm headed to ACC and hybird now :pt1cable:
 
😀 😀 😀 😀

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:pt1cable: :pt1cable: :pt1cable: :pt1cable:

:sol: :sol: :sol: :sol:

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now if I could just post the screen shot!

but looks good at the moment, haven;t done anything but start system, run cpu-z and bounce around the room!

well that posted anyways, maybe y'all can read it!!!!!

 
Still don't have the screen capture imaging to work but this is from cpuid monitering text file...

Hardware monitor ITE IT87
Voltage 0 1.34 Volts [0x54] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage 1 1.62 Volts [0x65] (VIN1)
Voltage 2 3.33 Volts [0xD0] (+3.3V)
Voltage 3 5.11 Volts [0xBE] (+5V)
Voltage 4 12.16 Volts [0xBE] (+12V)
Voltage 5 -11.71 Volts [0xB7] (-12V)
Voltage 7 3.63 Volts [0x87] (+5V VCCH)
Voltage 8 3.04 Volts [0xBE] (VBAT)
Temperature 0 39°C (102°F) [0x27] (TMPIN0)
Temperature 1 53°C (127°F) [0x35] (TMPIN1)
Temperature 2 45°C (113°F) [0x2D] (TMPIN2)
Fan 0 2077 RPM [0x145] (FANIN0)
Fan 1 1452 RPM [0x1D1] (FANIN1)

y'all notice anything out of ordinary? oh, and thats while prime95 has been running for 35 minutes....

I was aware I'd lose the sensors at the cores and this part shows that...

Hardware monitor AMD Phenom II X4
Temperature 0 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (Core #0)
Temperature 1 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (Core #1)
Temperature 3 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (Core #3)
Temperature 2 0°C (32°F) [0x0] (Core #2)
 
be sure to disable Cool and Quiet.

initial550be.jpg


As you can see there the clock on the cpu is 800 mhz because of cool and quiet.
 
he,he,he, thanks for getting that image to work! That was first screen shot after firing the system up, loaded failsafe in bios and let it rip...😀

been playing since then, going to call it a night and let it run prime95 awhile with these new clocks 😉

BE550x4oc3500.jpg


Have it just over 3500mhz :wahoo: still have MUCH tweaking to do as I'm a NOOB at this oc stuff.

Basically have just upped the multiplier a touch and the fsb a tad and added .025 volts to the cpu, and left everything else "stock"

Need to go back to the begining of this thread and read all the FANTASTIC stuff everyone has posted and make notes about how to tweak it further. A great big ole THANKS to all the folks here for the great info and incentive to do this! THX FOLKS!

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well was a little agresive there, booted, was running, but prime95 BSOD after about 4 minutes 🙁

backed some off and added another .025 volts to the cpu and prime95 has been running about 15 minutes now, so I will let it go and catchsome rest....

P2X4stable3400oc.jpg


 


You gotta push it to the limit. Do not disrespect or underestimate the Phenom II 550. On worse news my Phenom II 550 x2 is running Prime95 unstable now. Not sure what has changed but it appears it shuts off after half an hour to an hour.. Sigh I may have to underclock to run prime95 stable on 4 cores.
 
If your 550 unlocks w/o any issues it should at least hity 3.8Ghz stable. The key lies in the Bios, you need to make sure that you DO NOT leave important values (settings) on AUTO becuase the board will provide more voltage than needed and this in turn makes the overclock unstable in most cases.
 


I hit a wall already. I have tried so many combination of upping clock speed. I cannot get the processor to go past 3.7 ghz no matter what is done. I even tried running 800 mhz 205, 207, 210, 212, 215, 218, 220 (etc follow the partner) up until 240 mhz for the HT reference (bus speed). I tried all types of multiplier/HT reference combination. With the current voltage/clock, the PSU calculator is rating my CPU at 168w~ TDP 100% (probably 150w~ realistically).

I even tried 1.52v for laughs to see if I could get 3.8 ghz as a quad. (Something which as a dual core was no problem). Not budging. :/ Well I did manage to setup my computer to use my 4gb it 1066mhz to 1120 mhz (i need to test for long term stability)

I am not sure if it's a motherboard limitation or a CPU limitation as at the moment since I sold my previous motherboard.
 


For now forget about raising the FSB, leave it at 200, raise the multiplier to x18 and make sure all your voltages are correct. Use the voltages that I posted from my Bios screens, that should help at least a bit.

If your 550 was able to achieve 3.8/3.9Ghz then your B50 should be able to achieve the same clocks...

I also see that you are trying to achieve high clocks with your timings @ 5-7-7-22 , those timings are too tight specially if you are trying to overclock by raising the FSB... Try loosening the timings a bit and see if that helps... I would only tighten the timings if you run your RAM at 800Mhz, 1066Mhz is a pain in the arse to get stable at high clocks (AMD).
 
Hey all, and thanks again for everyones help throughout this thread!

Been tweaking and such for a bit and have my P2 X4 550 up to 3811 stable!

P2X4_3811.jpg


Had an issue with unstability at first but helped that immensly by bringing my memory voltages up to what OCZ wanted, that helped on getting system to be stable. I have the memory slowed down right now, but will research some more on that front before proceding.

Began OC by upping multiplier till system wouldn't boot, then added CPU voltage. After that again went back to multiplier and repeated. After I went as high on CPU voltage as I felt comfortable, I started to up the bus in gentle increments.

I'm taking a break from that at the moment as I eased over 3.8 and want to experiment some more with more bus speed and lower multiplier, but need to get my thinking straight on how to keep the memory in check.

I do have some concerns with heat as under Prime 95 it will run around 59 on the tempin1???? I assume that is what is now reading the cpu as the others are gone with the unlocking... Seems to idle around 32 or so. any thoughts on those temps?

Again, THANKS!
 
Hey Ovcr,
why dont you make a guide for overclocking amd chips?
Click to expand...

I started already, its 65% done. I just want to make sure it gets stickied so I need to keep updating and adding stuff 😉

Going to work on it tonight after dinner :bounce:

Phenoms ONLY cause it's gonna get crazy if I include brisbanes or older athlons...
 
Been working on it on and off for about 2-3 months, kinda got put on hold cause I have been busy building PC's for a few neighbor's .... Next build might be an H55/i3 HTCP but this time I will take some pic's if the owner lets me =) .... Too much to do and not enough time!!! lol
 


1120 mhz 7-7-7-22 is stable with 210 reference (previous references 200-240 were done at 800mhz not 1066mhz). The issue is the damn processor. I already tried using multiplier only, it's the same 3.7ghz is the max regardless of the voltage.. Also the cores are all different for clocks. Which is why high over clock teams (5ghz+) always find the strongest core and lock out the other ones so the bad ones don't bottle neck the overhead.

Ill try overvolting the motherboard and leaving the reference at 210.
 
Well if you have tried everything then the third or forth core might be semi-faulty... All 550's/B50's that I have seen can achieve the same clocks as a dual or quad.... Your case is kind of wierd... Have you tried 3 cores just to rule out the 4th?
 


Perhaps. Ill try.
 



Sounds similar to what I have going on!!
One stick of RAM at a time is gold... 2 is no bueno. 2 dif ram manufacturers... 2 dif processors, 2 dif vid cards... it is really looking like MB to me.

The funny thing is, in the period that this did work fine (for about 2 months) I had the quad core unlocked and it worked like gold. When my hang/freeze issues started first thing I did was drop to dual core defaults. That made no difference at all.

Im worried that it might be OS issues as well, I dont want to warranty and wait forever with no computer!

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I am going to Xpost this so sorry, I did just start a new thread.

VGA Brand : ATi Model : Radeon 4850
CPU Brand : AMD Model : AMD|PH II X2 545 3.0G AM3 R Speed : 3000 mhz
Operation System : Win 7 64-bit SP :
Memory Brand : A-DATA 4GB AX3U2000XB2G9-2X Type : ddr3
Memory Size : 2x2 Speed : 1600
Power Supply : 650 W


*Question
My first setup with this motherboard I used these two products instead of my current ram and processor.
F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ R Gskill
CPU AMD|ATH II X2 240 AM3 2.8G

All recommended settings for voltages and frequencies were tried while setting this up. It would work perfectly fine with 1 stick of ram, but with 2 sticks, any slot combination (1,3 or 2,4 is recommended I believe) I would get frequent hangs... where everything would freeze. The only recovery was hard reset of the system. I tried updating the bios up to f5 the most current non beta bios. This made no difference in the freeze ups. I swapped parts with my friend (vid card, power supply) and reproduced the same issue. I reinstalled windows 7 on a new harddrive. Same issue. I then assumed that it was a memory or processor issue. I RMA'd those two products and grabbed the new products that I have listed above.

I received those new products about 2 months ago(adata ram and phenom X2 processor) and they worked excellent. Fast and stable. I though that I had the issue fixed. About 2 weeks ago, I started to get hangs/freezes again. My windows experience score (maybe unrelated) dropped for all of the available scores except for hard drive. The hangs began to happen more and more frequently. I checked my bios settings and made sure everything was perfect, and it was. I checked again a day later, and bios settings were totally wrong, frequencies back down, ram timing off... I set them to the correct values (for no overclocking) 1.8v for the ram, 9-9-9-24 timing. And it seemed to clear up the issue... for about an hour.

As last ditch effort I updated to the f6 bios from your website, and tried again. No change. Hangs continued very often. This was happening between 1 min after Windows loading, to 5 hours of Windows starting... The frequency of these crashes increased over the next couple days, so I tried the old fix. I pulled out one stick of ram. System runs stable. I have tried both sticks in slot one with no issues whatsoever.

I have also confirmed that there is no heat issue... processor runs at 42C under load. Ram is cool to the touch. Very well ventilated case... Do you have any other steps I can try or does this seem to be a defective MB?
 


I had the same exact issue... Ram is decidedly not the problem after runing mem tests and prime95 for hours on each stick individually, and then RMA with a different company.
 


When/where did you purchase the board?
 


not to butt in as you have some real pros assisting you but your story sounds real familiar... My build on 2/1/2010 was this:
P II X2 550 BE
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P
4 G (2@2) of OCZ Gold 1600 DDR3
XFX HD4850
600w PSU
Win 7 64

After unlocking the first night my new system flew and was reasonably stable as I began tweaking it. Had everything running fast and stable until the start of last week when system stability degraded gradually to the point of aggravation. Display would freeze, go black, and then system would recover with message "Display driver stopped responding and has recovered" Display would go black, system freeze and have to be rebooted to restart. Display would go grey with verticle stripes and system freeze with cooling fans on system immediatly ramping up to full speed.

I first tested memory with memtest 8+ hours, no errors. Ran Prime 95 and received an error at 6 hours in where the system had passed during a 14 hour run before. First backed off on OC and Mem timings, adjusted voltages, etc etc.. Tried fresh installs of OS, Card drivers, disabled Aero in Win 7 etc etc. Began swapping componants then. Swapped memory out from my other system - 4g of Kingston 1033 DDR3, and I'll mention here that on both my Gigabyte boards (other is a GA-MA770T-UD3P) the DDR is to go into slots 1/2 or 3/4 and AMD recommends using 3/4. No help tho I never tried using just 1 stick but could pass 8hrs of Memtest with both sticks...

Next swapped out the HD 4850 for the HD 4670 from the other computer, Bingo! all cured, running flawlessly albeit graphics performance is suffering. XFX was no help in assisting and only if you want to go for hours of reading don't search the web for ATI Win7/Vista problems.

If the vid card you swapped out was another 4850 it might be something related to the gpu/ ATI in general and Win 7/Vista as can be inferred from several of those LONG threads you can read on the web. I've begun the RMA process on mine so hopefully it is just my card in particular and not a general issue with the 4850's GPU and Win 7. I won't be sending it off till Monday so might stick it back in with just one stick of memory and see if that works and pass the info on if you'd like.
 
It is very unlikely for the ram slots to be faulty, I would test EACH slot with an individual stick (do the same with both sticks), run prime95 each time you test a slot just to make sure the slots are not at fault.
 
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