Phenom Recycled: Athlon X2 7000-Series

[blackened144]

o THAT reminds me
In this test report, the power consumption figures are all meaningless because the intel cpu's require power from north bridge re memory controllers which, in AMD the mem controller is internal. So the intel scores are artificially low = add 15-20 watts to include mem controllers.

More smoke and mirrors. You should have known that too. That's called something worse than bias.

If this was a "bias" report like you say it was, Tom's would have overclocked all these CPUs, showing that once you turn the clock speed up Intel absolutely crushes everything AMD has to sell at the moment in all but a few synthetic benchmarks. Not bringing overclocking into the picture creates a much for level playing field for AMD, so please stop complaining about your perceived "bias".

 

[Scarchunk]

This douche wants an unbiased review, so he links to AMDZone.

And please try to avoid cherry picked benches that make intel look good.
Also try to word things without the obvious slur against AMD.
A brief review on this cpu here:
Includes a cpu-z oclox to 3.3 Ghz
http://www.amdzone.com/index.php/r [...] on-x2-7750

I tend to think that AMDZone might be biased towards AMD. Just a hunch....

 

[Rahbot]

I have a M2N32-SLI Vista Prem MB. Running AMD 64 X2 6400+BE Why would I want a Slower 7000 Series Chip. I can overclock my BE up to 4GHz. Not only that but i'm waiting on the AM3 before Upgrading. I'm also a AMD fan boy. On the other hand I hate ATI. So for my next upgrade it might be a Core i7/Nvidia. Or a AM3/Nvidia. I hope that AMD can bring something to the table other than Processors that don't work right or have major bugs. Also why go threw the trouble of make a 3 or 4 core processor and kill 1 or 2 cores just to sell it. Why buy a Processor that has problems. You might get a few months out of it or maybe a year or so. I wouldnt buy one. If your going to buy look for a good 5600-6400+ processor. Dont mess with any 7000+ ones. Ya lower speed but higher caches.

 

[trevorvdw]

In the words of Luke Skywalker "What a piece of junk!"

I'd take the 6000+ I scored for $60 on Black Friday over this thing any day.

 

[weakerthans4]

Great, another sub-par CPU from AMD

 

[2GooDrumr]

What happened AMD? I miss the days of Athalon 64 dominance. THey've had enough time to catch up to Intel... Hopefully the AM3 Phenom II's can compete with the i7's, but I'm starting to doubt it.

 

[jameskangster]

Just out of curiosity, does anybody have an idea (or a link) what the marginal profit on one of these *new* chips is?(I hope it's a positive number). On a side comment, Phenom II better be really good, otherwise, they are gonna have a hard time gaining any market share.

 

[chaohsiangchen]

7750 in this review seems to be seriously underperforming. Check the following review and one would draw different conclusion.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon-x2-7750_3.html#sect0

 

[roofus]

Read the comments before posting comments .... not that I always do that either, but the reason is explained earlier already.
They release it because it means they can sell a product that failed testing for phenon X4 branding instead of dumping it in the trash.
So basicly except for some marketing and shipping expenses it's free for them.

I honestly did try but it just got too stupid.

 

[megamanx00]

This would have been great a year ago. Oh well, I think these are just a build up of poor yield Phenoms with two good cores. Still seems to be an excellent choice for some mid low end builds. I think it would also make a decent upgrade for anyone who has less than a 5000 at stock speed. On some other reviews they've overclocked this thing to 3.2GHz which increases it's potential value. I may recommend this for a budget office build, but for my personal computer I'm waiting to upgrade to the Phenom II.

 

[Scarchunk]

7750 in this review seems to be seriously underperforming. Check the following review and one would draw different conclusion.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] html#sect0

In that article they bench the new AMDs against a 2.6Ghz Pentium E5300 with a 800Mhz FSB/2MB cache and the Phenom still gets beat in quite a few benches. If that is what these new phenoms are competing against, they better be pretty cheap. Shame they can't compete against Conroes that were release 2 years ago.

 

[Pei-chen]

[citation][nom]Chaohsiangchen[/nom]7750 in this review seems to be seriously underperforming. Check the following review and one would draw different conclusion.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] html#sect0[/citation]
Trading blows with Pentium Dual-Core E5300 and uses 50% more electricity. Underperforming indeed.

 

[Mathos]

Any Chance of seeing performance nyumber of the chip OCed to 3.2ghz, just to see what kind of distance it can gain from the 6400+?

 

[Ha11ster]

NEWS FLASH: Tom's Stock Plummets as it reviews "Overclock-Market" product with non-overclock settings.

What the?!!?!? This really ticks me off when reviewers dont fully review the product. For this reason, this review gets a big fat F!

I came to Toms for specific data. And its not here. The black edition product is a "overclock" product. Omitting its performance under these conditions is unacceptable by a reputable review site. Therefore, Tom gets a "F" today for not doing its job.

If I overlooked this data in the review, please bring it to my attention and I will be happy to change my opninion. After all, mistakes do happen.

Ha11ster

 

[The Schnoz]

[citation][nom]DavidGBailey[/nom][/citation]
The same reason why they're not competing with the GeForce GTX 280 with the 4870. AMD realized that they might be able to gain market share by focusing on the mainstream market. After all, most CPU's sold are mainstream processors, hence the name mainstream. If they can offer CPUs that use little power, offer decent performance, at a great price, I don't see the problem with that. I already have a decent Intel gaming rig, but with processors this cheap and effcient building a HTPC with a 780G motherboard and 7750 processor is looking more and more tempting. Besides, how many years behind is Intel with integrated graphics. I'm not attacking them, they decided mainstream graphics is good enough and it's worked out pretty well for them so far. Intel doesn't focus on the enthusiast market for graphics and they are the number one provider of graphics chips worldwide.

 

[Ha11ster]

[citation][nom]Ha11ster[/nom][/citation]


Hmm... It makes me wonder, is Tom's swinging from Intel's proverbial sack?

Thoughts?

 

[zodiacfml]

i wonder, how come its only now AMD selling this type of 2 disabled cores processor while they have phenom being sold long time ago?

 

[ravenware]

Black Edition processor and no overclocking?

 

[BSMonitor]

Despite its more efficient architecture, the Athlon X2 7000 cannot make up for the clock speed difference separating it from some of the previous-generation Athlon X2s (500 MHz, in the case of the Athlon 64 X2 6400+),

That's ok, its big brothers Phenom X3 and X4 can barely keep up with the X2 6400 BE....

 

[Guest]

RE: there is no way in a million years that the WHQL driver used would have any effect on the outcome of these benchmarks.

HA! HA! ... WHQL Driver 180.84 gives SIGNIFICANT perforamnce boosts (~30-80% according to nVidia release notes) with varioius CPUS. That was a FAST 1,000,000 years.

 

[danbfree]

It's $79 people! Plus it IS faster clock/clock than the Brisbane X2. With an unlocked proc, it's a fun way to play with overclocking without too big of an investment! The media encoding benchies look decent too... Still look forward to Phenom II, though!

 

[danbfree]

OK, so not clock/clock every app but most and for $79 with that cache and unlocked multiplier it should see nice OC scaling results.

 

[ratbert]

[citation][nom]Chaohsiangchen[/nom][/citation]
Why are you using such old Bios and Chipset drivers for the AM2+ boards. Took me all of 10 minutes to research and find much newer ones. No wonder the #'s suck. The Bios for the Asus board is 2 or 3 revisions old, and the Bios version for the MSI board is 0.0? I looked but couldn't find that one!

 

[randomizer]

ratbert, the BIOS doesn't improve performance...

 

[rambo117]

looks pretty interesting but im puttin my money towards the new PhenomII series.

cant wait!