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Spent some time overclocking my graphics card, now back to the processor..

Changed some things since last and got huge improvements on both 3dbenchmark and pcwiz07's benchmark, compared to E6600 @ 2400Mhz it smoked it in all areas, Dryhstone went off the chart


followed directions in C2D overclocking guide disabled this that n the other,
set pcie freq, but the key was ctrl+F1 before MIT bios, set timing to 4-4-4-12, still no voltage changes... Seems setting mem timings makes a difference even tho you dont have to in order to overclock



XION LED Case (3 fans 1 front 1 side 1 rear)
Gigabyte P965 S3 (F8 BIOS)
E4300 C2D @ 3006.0 Mhz FSB @ 335 (just to excede 3Ghz
Kingston DDR2 667 4-4-4-12 (runs at 670)
CoolerMaster Hyper L3 - temps idle at 30-32c loaded 50c
GeForce 7300 GT (economy) OC GPU @ 460 - MEM @ 411
200GB HD Windows XP Pro SP2 + Vista Inspirat
😀 😀
 
Spent some time overclocking my graphics card, now back to the processor..

Changed some things since last and got huge improvements on both 3dbenchmark and pcwiz07's benchmark, compared to E6600 @ 2400Mhz it smoked it in all areas, Dryhstone went off the chart


followed directions in C2D overclocking guide disabled this that n the other,
set pcie freq, but the key was ctrl+F1 before MIT bios, set timing to 4-4-4-12, still no voltage changes... Seems setting mem timings makes a difference even tho you dont have to in order to overclock



XION LED Case (3 fans 1 front 1 side 1 rear)
Gigabyte P965 S3 (F8 BIOS)
E4300 C2D @ 3006.0 Mhz FSB @ 335 (just to excede 3Ghz
Kingston DDR2 667 4-4-4-12 (runs at 670)
CoolerMaster Hyper L3 - temps idle at 30-32c loaded 50c
GeForce 7300 GT (economy) OC GPU @ 460 - MEM @ 411
200GB HD Windows XP Pro SP2 + Vista Inspirat
😀 😀


Hmmmmm. I have the same setup including the ram. My ram is running at 5-5-5-15. Did you get a big difference from running the ram at 4-4-4-12 vs stock timings by spd? Everything else being equal of course. Ah screw it, I'll do it just for fun....reboot time.

Monk
 
Well I saw no appreciable increase in performance by switching from 5-5-5-15 to 4-4-4-12. Everything ran just fine perfectly stable...but benchmarks from 3dmark06 and x3 benchmark show less than 1.7% increase in performance for those. Granted those are GPU based/limiting...But...since it is stable. I'll keep it there.

You just have to love Kingston ram. Never had a single problem with it ever and always performed better than advertised. I'll prolly benefit more by getting that second stick of 1gig.


Monk
 
dont know about the 5-5-5-15 or 4-4-4-12, i was still at the stock settings, not sure what they were, but it wasnt equal...

i noticed on cpuz that i was 5-3-?-15 and figured id try setting the 4-4-4-12 and got the performance change so i just figured id give a heads up, either way the setup is pretty sweet
 
Looks like a great option to me.

Just for the sakes of this post. I can do 3.2ghz 1.35v on my E6300. My motherboard is the limit for the chip so far.

I have a new board coming in the mail (I shorted it out oops) and I will go for round 2 8)

The 4300 looks like a champ and I would be fine with both.
 
the setup with the E4300 seems pretty nice to me, im not the guru of overclocking, and ive always been leery of it cause of all the voltage increases, with this i havent changed any voltages to hit 3.0, and its staying nice n cool.... I cant afford to dump another 500 into a puter so safe is good 4 me......... :)
 
I'm also new to OC, my equipment (as I will change my sig as time goes by):
1) Retail C2D E4300
2) Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
3) Gigabytpe GA-965P-DS3 ver2 F10
4) Two 1 GB sticks Super Talent PC5400 DDR2 667MHz CL5 Rigid with heat spreaders (Second Pair of 1 GB sticks RMA'd)
5) Older ATI 800 VGA Card
6) Seagate 7200.10 Perpendicular 320GB SATA2

Just started OC today, my settings:
1) BIOS settings to "Load Optimized Defaults", then CPU Frequency to 333 MHz to get initial 3MHz on my CPU and System Memory Multiplier = 2, and System Voltage Control = Auto
2) Case closed
3) Windows XP
4) Rear 120 mm case fan turned off as too noisy

My "idle" results:
1) Intel TAT: CPU0=58C, CPU1=59C
2) CoreTemp Beta 0.94: Tjunction = 85C, Core#0=41C, Core#1=42C
3) MB Easytune5: CPU Temp=42C, System=38C
4) SpeedFan 4.32 Beta 17: Temp1-System=38C, Temp2-CPU=42

My TAT "Max Load" results with rear 120 mm case fan off as too noisy:
1) Intel TAT: CPU0=80C, CPU1=81C
2) CoreTemp Beta 0.94: Tjunction = 85C, Core#0=67C, Core#1=67C
3) MB Easytune5: CPU Temp=71C
4) SpeedFan 4.32 Beta 17: Temp2-CPU=69
5) Artic CPU Fan = 2700 RPM (looks liked max)

I then read CompuTronix's great summary of C2D temp ranges and realized that I was too hot (!) as TAT Tjunction temp at 81C is higher than recommended max 75C. I thus repeated the test with rear exhaust case fan switched on to dissipate heat faster.

My "idle" results:
1) Intel TAT: CPU0=45C, CPU1=47C
2) CoreTemp Beta 0.94: Tjunction = 85C, Core#0=28C, Core#1=30C
3) MB Easytune5: CPU Temp=29C, System=35C
4) SpeedFan 4.32 Beta 17: Temp1-System=35C, Temp2-CPU=29

My TAT "Max Load" results with rear 120 mm case on:
1) Intel TAT: CPU0=70C, CPU1=70C
2) CoreTemp Beta 0.94: Tjunction = 85C, Core#0=58C, Core#1=59C
3) MB Easytune5: CPU Temp=60C, System=35C
4) SpeedFan 4.32 Beta 17: Temp2-CPU=60C, System=35C
5) Artic CPU Fan = 2350 RPM (not max)

Have gone up to 3375 but Gigabyte's Easytune 5 hangs, not sure if that is software problem or hardware, other progs OK.

So I learnt:
1) With case fan switched on or off my System Temp is the same 35C even under TAT Max Load and thus is suspect
2) CoreTemp Tjunction temp is unreliable as always reads 85C plus I don't know what the Core#0 & Core1 readings represent

Questions:
1) Any other things I should do to increase performance?
2) Interestingly when I set BIOS System Voltage Control to Manual, it runs cooler, but I can't get as fast before locking up.
3) After I land at what I want my OC to be I'm going to install Vista Business after which monitoring temp and any OC will be tougher. I'm assuming that my settings that work in XP will be good for Vista, is software is just software?
4) Assume I should set my BIOS CPU Warning Temp to CompuTronix's recommended 60C?

Thanks in advance to responders.
 
I'm thinking your Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro wasn't installed with enough thermal grease. Are you sure you had plenty on the proc and heat sink when you installed it?
 
Oilpatch, I've taken the liberty of re-formatting the information you've provided.

C2D E4300 3MHz
A/C Freezer 7 Pro
Gigabytpe GA-965P-DS3 ver2 F10

OC settings:
CPU Frequency Voltage Control = Auto
Case closed

Idle: Case fan = off
TAT =59c
CoreTemp = 42c
Easytune = 42c
SpeedFan = 42c

Load: Case fan = off, CPU Fan = 2700 RPM
TAT = 81c
CoreTemp = 67c
Easytune = 71c
SpeedFan = 69c

Idle: Case fan = on
TAT = 47c
CoreTemp = 30c
Easytune = 29c
SpeedFan = 29c

Load: Case fan = on, CPU Fan = 2350 RPM
TAT = 70c
CoreTemp = 59c
MB Easytune = 60c
SpeedFan = 60c

At 3375 Gigabyte's Easytune 5 hangs, other progs OK.

I've highlighted in bold the problem items. Easytune and SpeedFan are correct, however, remember that TAT reads ~ 2c low. In order to conduct valid tests to obtain valid results, the variables must be defined, such as:

Ambient = ?????
C1E and EIST = disabled
Frequency and Vcore = manual.
CPU and Case fans = manual 100%
Vcore = ?????

Please re-read the Temp Guide, as it's a new edit effective earlier today.

Findings:

1) System Temp is the same 35C even under TAT Max Load and thus is suspect.

System Temp is motherboard temp, which typically doesn't scale much, and is of minor concern.

2) CoreTemp Tjunction temp is unreliable as always reads 85C plus I don't know what the Core#0 & Core1 readings represent.

Core Temp's "Tjunction 85c" field is Intel's Tj max spec, is info only, and doesn't change. Core #0 and Core #1 are your actual core temps as those in TAT.

Since E4300's and 965's are a combination notorious for introducing temperature offsets, Core Temp is obviously offset by -15c. If you simply add 15c to Core Temp, then you have accurate values, which should typically be ~ 2c higher than TAT. As you can see, Core Temp is still accurate with a +15c correction factor.

Questions:

1) Any other things I should do to increase performance?

2) Interestingly when I set BIOS System Voltage Control to Manual, it runs cooler, but I can't get as fast before locking up.

Follow wusy's C2D OC Guide to the letter to get your highest OC per lowest Vcore. Be patient and methodical, as it takes many hours to fine tune a new rig.

3) After I land at what I want my OC to be I'm going to install Vista Business after which monitoring temp and any OC will be tougher. I'm assuming that my settings that work in XP will be good for Vista, is software is just software?

Your presumtion is sound, however, I wouldn't expect Vista to yet be as stable as XP. You may need to run a conservative OC until you complete your install, then re-tune for peak performance.

4) Assume I should set my BIOS CPU Warning Temp to CompuTronix's recommended 60C?

I do not recommend 60c Tcase in the Guide, as this temp is already "Hot", with a corresponding Tjunction value of 75c, and is too high for stability on an OC'd system. What I do recommend is that you do not exceed ~55c Tcase and ~70c Tjunction, which are both "Warm" and in the yellow range of the temp scale.

Hope this helps.

Comp 8)
 
Thanks ox1574 & CompTronix for the detailed response.

ox1574 = I installed the Artic Cooler Freezer 7 Pro with the grease that came on it, I'll have to compare my results with others to see if I'm off the curve, and have poor coupling, I thought I was OK.

CompTronix, some more data:

Ambient Was = 23C (73F), but I'm in Houston, Texas, so in summer when AC's are working hard, house will be warmer and library with two PC's is normally warmer still at around 27C (80F).

Vcore Was = 1.392v (same reading in CPU-Z & SpeedFan
CIE & EIST = I think were enabled, not sure.

Will spend time later today doing fine tuning as per wusy's guide, I understand that goal is to manually get lowest Vcore to minimize CPU heat generation to enable highest reasonable OC using your temp guide, assuming rest of system stable. Will post results.

BIOS has CPU Warning Temp setting that I can use to I assume Beep when temp's get too high. I'd like to use this, however settings in my BIOS are 60, 70, 80 or 90 (a legacy I assume from pre-C2D hotter CPU days), so I'll use 60C and if PC starts beeping then I'll know I'll have to shut down ASAP.

Thanks again.
 
OK so results doing OC the manual way via wusy's C2D OC sticky (not good read to end).

Hardware: Retail C2D E4300, Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, Gigabytpe GA-965P-DS3 ver2 F10, Two 1 GB sticks Super Talent DDR2 667MHz CL5 Rigid with heat spreaders, older ATI 800 VGA Card, Seagate 7200.10 SATA2, Case=Ultra Wizard, Fans=Rear exhaust Apevia 120mm & front Apevia 80mm
Hardware Settings: Case=Closed, Rear Fan=On, Front Fan=Off
Global BIOS Settings Advanced: Limit CPUID Max. to 3=Disabled, No-Execute Memory Protection=Disabled, CPU Enhanced Halt (CIE)=Disabled, EIST=Disabled, CPU Warning Temp=60C
Global BIOS Settings MIT: Robust Graphics Booster=Turbo, Multiplyer=9, PCI Express Frequency=Auto (100MHz), C.I.A.2=Disabled, System Memory Multiplier=2, System Voltage Control=Manual
Software: OS=Windows XP, Intel TAT, CoreTemp=Beta 0.94, Gigabyte Easytune5=Latest version from GB & Easytune Center (For CPU Fan Speed), SpeedFan=4.32 Beta 17
Goals: Max OC with Tjunction0/1(Max TAT load) < 70C, Tcase(Max TAT load) < 55C

Test 1 Settings: CPU=1809 MHz, Workload=TAT Idle (Base Case)
Test 1 Results: Status=Stable, Vcore=1.30v, Tjunction0/1(TAT)=36/39C, Tjunction0/1(CoreTemp)=21+15/23+15=36/38C, Tcase=23, Fan=430RPM, Tsystem=32C, Tambient=24C

Test 2 Settings: CPU=1809 MHz, Workload=TAT 100%
Test 2 Results: Status=Stable, Vcore=1.264v, Tjunction0/1(TAT)=56/58C, Tjunction0/1(CoreTemp)=40+15/42+15=55/57C, Tcase=43, Fan=980RPM, Tsystem=32C, Tambient=24C

Test 3 Settings: CPU=2025 MHz (12.5% OC), Workload=TAT 100%, Time=1230PM
Test 3 Results: Status=Stable, Vcore=1.264v, Tjunction0/1(TAT)=57/59C, Tjunction0/1(CoreTemp)=40+15/42+15=55/57C, Tcase=46, Fan=1150RPM, Tsystem=32C, Tambient=24C

Test 4 Settings: CPU=2160MHz (20% OC), Workload=TAT 100%, Time=1235PM
Test 4 Results: Status=Stable, Vcore=1.28v, Tjunction0/1(TAT)=58/60C, Tjunction0/1(CoreTemp)=40+15/42+15=55/57C, Tcase=47, Fan=1300RPM, Tsystem=32C, Tambient=24C

Test 5 Settings: CPU=2250MHz (25% OC), Workload=TAT 100%, Time=1240PM
Test 5 Results: Status=System locked up, rebooted, no monitor signal POST screen etc, rebooted, noticed no harddisk light activity

1250PM Took side door off PC, nothing smelt burned, when try to boot, PSU comes on, rear case fan comes on, after few seconds CPU fan comes on, no harddisk activity, no monitor activity POST screen etc.

100PM Removed 2 RAM sticks, booted, beep as expected, re-installed 1 RAM stick, machine booted OK (big sigh of relief), shut down PC

1:05PM, Re-installed second RAM stick, boots OK.

Decide no more OC "fun", waiting on advice please . . .
 
Oilpatch, what was the FSB and multiplier that you used?

According to your specs. you should be able to get an OC of 2.997 easily with
your ram. (333X9) I would guess you tried to get a very high FSB which would
pushed your ram too far since its 667 CL5.

I would guess that it is your CPU vcore, but the strange thing is I have my
E4300 at 2.4GHZ (300X8) at about 1.25 vcore.
 
Thanks Gundam1s

On my previous post on this thread I got up to 3240 MHz with TAT on Max on simple default Auto settings before temp got too high. Idea this time around was to do it without Auto System Voltage to try and get lower Vcore and thus lower heat generation and thus higher OC before hit max temp.

I left the multiplyer at 9, so FSB was just ratio of CPU, ie FSB was 250 with CPU at 2250 when shut down.

So I don't know why it shut down and wouldn't reboot . . . .
 
This will not set any records on speed, but may set record on cost.
FSB 292, 2.63 mhz, stock cooling and voltage.

e4300 retail, ECS PM800 V2, Antec 500 true power, 1gb of DDR1 8-4-4-3, 2 160 gb sata1 hd in raid 0, 2 200 gb IDE drives, 2dvdrw, ATI 700 Pro AGP.

I had an old system with an nforce 2 motherboard and a barton 2600. Just exchanged the motherboard and processor out. Did a BSEL to VSS mod on the chip to make it a native 266 fsb. then uped it to 292, as the MB has no locks on PCI/AGP. The cup/mb was from frys for 158. The modding required a defogger repair Kit from pepboys for 10.50. Total cost with tax 185.
 
3 case fans with ACF7P, overclocked to 3Ghz.

30C idle, 61C at 100% load (using TAT, which apparently ups heat by 15C? Don't quote me.)

Hope that helps anyone using a similar set up. :wink:
 
Insania , it's important to define which set of C2D temperatures you're posting at what variables. The following is an example of "Results" and "Variables" which is the format used in the Core 2 Duo Temperature Guide:

Results

Tcase (BIOS, Motherboard Utilities, SpeedFan) = 30c Idle, 50c Load
Tjunction (Core Temp offsets of 3c are normal) = 45c Idle, 65c Load

Variables

Ambient = 22c
Chipset = 975X
C2D = E6600
CPU Cooler= AC Freezer 7 Pro
Frequency = 3.6 Ghz
Load = TAT @ 100% 10 minutes
Motherboard = Asus P5W DH
Vcore = 1.4625

A standardized format provides the necessary information, and helps to level the thermal playing field, so that "apples" can be accurately compared to other "apples".

Hope this helps.

Comp 8)
 
3240GHz @ 24/7 on Freezer 7 Pro air cooler 😀

Orthos stable for 1h then manually stopped. Don't want to push my motherboard more than that, it gets really hot to the touch. I got a Asus P5E-Plus with stock passive coolers, how high temps can the northbridge handle?

Idle: ~35c
Load:~60c

360fsb
9x multi
1.48 voltage

Haven't tried more than that yet, im happy as it is.
 
3240GHz @ 24/7 on Freezer 7 Pro air cooler

Orthos stable for 1h then manually stopped. Don't want to push my motherboard more than that, it gets really hot to the touch. I got a Asus P5E-Plus with stock passive coolers, how high temps can the northbridge handle?

Idle: ~35c
Load:~60c

360fsb
9x multi
1.48 voltage

Haven't tried more than that yet, im happy as it is.

stroszek, Taco is right. I hate to pop your bubble, but your load temp is "hot". Check out the following "Sticky" for information on appropriate temperatures:

Core 2 Duo Temperature Guide

Hope this helps.

Comp 8)
 
labortius, at 1.48 Vcore with an Orthos load, it's not likely that stroszek's temp is safe. Please read the following Sticky for information regarding appropriate temperatures:

Core 2 Duo Temperature Guide

Hope this helps.

Comp 8)

So my 54 degree temp from Coretemp,when using 300x9,stock voltage is too high?During Orthos Blend.
 
labortius, at 1.48 Vcore with an Orthos load, it's not likely that stroszek's temp is safe.

So my 54 degree temp from Coretemp,when using 300x9,stock voltage is too high?During Orthos Blend.

Not at all. labortius's temp of 60c refered to the single CPU Case temp sensor, which runs 15c cooler than the dual CPU Junction temp sensors, which are measured at the hottest areas within each core. So, Tcase + 15c = Tjunction.

Hope that clarifies it.

Comp 8)
 
Thanks for all the answers!

The temps on e4300 are quite confusing, here are some more detailed results on 1.48v and 9x360 @ 3240GHz. My case is an Antec P180B with two 120mm fans very close to the CPU heatsink so the airflow shouldn't be an issue.

Orthos 100% Load

Core Temp Idle:

#Core1: ~25c
#Core2: ~30c

Core Temp Load:

#Core1: ~59c
#Core2: ~59c

So according to the Temperature Guide Core Temp allows 65c before it is considered as hot and Im in the safe zone?

------

TAT Idle:

#Core1: ~45c
#Core2: ~40c


TAT Load:

#Core1: ~70c
#Core2: ~70c


The strange thing is that when i use an advanced temp reader and put the sensor on the fan heatsink that is directly above the cpu core I only get a reading of ~31c during full load and the fan is still quite cool when I touch it.

Anyhow; Im not extremely careful of this cpu anyway since they are so cheap ^^