News Pre-Launch 'Jedi: Survivor' Eats 21GB of VRAM, Struggles on RTX 4090

[Colif]

16tb SSD? Dang! That had to cost you a small fortune!

From sig: 4x 2TB m.2 Samsung 990 Pro / 4x 2TB m.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus

not as much as it sounds. 8tb is largest you can buy still but its probably cheaper to do what he diid than buy 2 8tb nvme.
Still don't need to alter my post on fake ssd sizes.

 

[drivinfast247]

From sig: 4x 2TB m.2 Samsung 990 Pro / 4x 2TB m.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus

not as much as it sounds. 8tb is largest you can buy still but its probably cheaper to do what he diid than buy 2 8tb nvme.
Still don't need to alter my post on fake ssd sizes.

Ohhhhh... he has 16tb of SSDs, not 16tb SSD as was typed.

BTW: https://visiontek.com/products/visi..._content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic

 

[nerdvous]

Does everything have to be playable now at max settings?

If a brand new PC built exclusively for gaming can't reach acceptable performance at max settings, then the much larger audience with older PCs are liable to assume that they won't reach acceptable performance at *any* settings. So I guess it depends on how many copies you want to sell

I'm not even being facetious. As others have mentioned, PC ports seem to be an afterthought for developers at the moment, with the PS5 and Xbox [whatever they're calling it now] being the target platforms.

This seems to go in cycles. I remember around 2007-10 there was a similar situation with the PC receiving dire, slipshod ports. These were the days of Xbox Live for Windows, truly one of the platforms' darkest hours. Epic and other studios who had made their fame in the PC market were turning their backs on and openly denouncing it.

But Valve quietly proved with Steam that there was a huge addressable mainstream market for PC gaming, and that by neglecting it these publishers were leaving big stacks of cash on the table. So in the 2010s they started to make more of an effort, not only to reach parity in terms of multi-platform releases but also to take advantage of improving tech as console generations matured. PC steadily clawed back significant market share as a result.

But here in the 2020s, the price of PC gaming has shot up egregiously. The crypto craze sent GPU prices through the ceiling and Nvidia/AMD seem determined to keep them there. Other component manufacturers seem to have been encouraged to creep up their prices above inflation as well. And the spectre of cloud gaming is always looming in the wings, bringing its monkey-paw promise of a ubiquitously thin-client, GaaS future.

I think this all goes some way to explain the spate of undercooked PC ports we've seen recently. And I worry that this will become a vicious cycle, as more and more PC gamers balk at the prospect of expensive upgrades that only result in *worse* optimised games, and opt for an Xbox or Playstation instead.

That, to my mind, is why the Crysis-style model of aspirational releases is dangerous. When the competition deliberately sells systems at a loss, to compete PC games need to either offer demonstrably superior performance for the increased cost (and right away), or else to be able to run on the proverbial toaster.

Sorry for the novel, it's a slow work day

 

[Colif]

BTW: https://visiontek.com/products/visi..._content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic

Yeah, I know non consumer grade had bigger.

This is first time where consoles have more resources available to them than most PC. I don't mean processor power or even graphics, its more memory. Devs are making games for machines with 16gb unified memory. They can allocate a lot of that as vram meaning no need to aim at just 8gb machines anymore.

Console market is bigger, so it makes sense they aim at it. Can buy a PS5 for less than some GPU now. So if all you want is a games machine, why not. But I use my PC for way more than just gaming.

 

[sitehostplus]

You got your game code from AMD rewards already? Still waiting on mine.



Glad I have 16TB SSD's.

Newegg is great. Got the redeem code after I asked for it last night (just realized I qualified for the game because of you guys). Then I went to AMD rewards, got my serial no, installed that into the EA app, and am downloading the game (when my Intel wifi isn't blowing up on me that is). In fact, if I wasn't so impatient, I would have bought the video card from there too (wanted it immediately after my last one almost died playing C&C red alert 2 lol).

16tb of SSD? No wonder you only own a geForce 1060. You spent so much money on SSDs that you're broke. 🤣🤣

 

[zx128k]

This video shows 10GB being used.

 

[scottsoapbox]

“As a result, we should see most of these problems fixed when the game is released later today.”

That is an exceedingly optimistic take by the author.

The same company that shipped a bug filled mess won’t be able to fix it overnight.

 

[Colif]

Game has an RT bug, it thinks its on when it actually isn't. He thought this was RT

but upon learning error he gets 20 FPS less.

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Still appears to only use 8 cores max.

 

[KyaraM]

This video shows 10GB being used.

Used, or allocated? Two different things. On my system, it shows allocated 10GB, used 9GB at 1440p, all Ultra and RT.

 

[Amdlova]

1650 4gb here maybe can see the intro lol

 

[merseymal]

Star Wars Jedi: Survivor is a pretty clunky title. Is this game based on some old sci fi novel, or something?

Indeed it is, unlike Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II!

 

[PEnns]

You three need reading comprehension bad. Again for the people in the back, this is a 4090 with 24GB struggling, not some 8GB card. You know, the currently strongest consumer GPU on the planet, with the most VRAM any consumer card has, together with the 7900XTX? It got absolutely jack to do with VRAM. And all with PC games lately being horribly optimized, which people like you love to deny. Use your brains just once, please. This is embarrassing.

Btw, even the console version has issues.

You never were. Minimum requirements RX580/GTX 1070. This has been known for months now...

Your 1060 never even met minimum specs. Not sure why you complain, it was known for ages tbh.

Yeah, pretty sure that plays a part, like witb the TLoU port thaf reportedly plays much better cracked and with Denuvo removed...

Gee, calm down, lest you give yourself a brain aneurysm!

I was talking in general terms, that more VRAM is better and recent tests and reports attested to this.

Yes, we peasants know games are horribly optimized (thanks for the revelation!), hence VRAM will deal better with them. Is that hard to understand...especially for people in the front??

 

[KyaraM]

Gee, calm down, lest you give yourself a brain aneurysm!

I was talking in general terms, that more VRAM is better and recent tests and reports attested to this.

Yes, we peasants know games are horribly optimized (thanks for the revelation!), hence VRAM will deal better with them. Is that hard to understand...especially for people in the front??

Is it hard to understand to want better optimized games? I hope not. How do we get that? Definitely NOT by going "gee, guess I need excessive amounts of VRAM going forward, this ia just how it is now!". If you want reasonable requirements, then don'tsit back and do nothing, but complain. Easy to understand? Good.

 

[PEnns]

Is it hard to understand to want better optimized games? I hope not. How do we get that? Definitely NOT by going "gee, guess I need excessive amounts of VRAM going forward, this ia just how it is now!". If you want reasonable requirements, then don'tsit back and do nothing, but complain. Easy to understand? Good.

I definitely agree.
But good luck convincing countless gaming companies to spend time and money to optimize and THEN release the games. For them a quick buck is their highest priority; optimization is way down on the profit ladder.

You and I may protest by not buying said games.
But millions of gamers have money to spare and will buy the game and huge GPUs no matter what!

 

[Colif]

Its an EA game, it might get fixed in coming weeks... if you lucky.
It will sell like mad anyway as its Star Wars... and it looks like a movie. So they will fix it to sell to as many people as they can. It doesn't seem like a long game as I seen a video from someone who has finished it already. I wonder how much of that 155gb download size is textures.

I won't be buying even if I do have a GPU that can run it.

 

[zx128k]

Used, or allocated? Two different things. On my system, it shows allocated 10GB, used 9GB at 1440p, all Ultra and RT.

Video the used VRAM just goes over 12GB maximum at 4k epic settings on a 4090.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

16tb SSD? Dang! That had to cost you a small fortune!

From sig: 4x 2TB m.2 Samsung 990 Pro / 4x 2TB m.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus

Ohhhhh... he has 16tb of SSDs, not 16tb SSD as was typed.

Correct... the 990's are on the mobo... and the 970's that are leftover from previous build are in a PCIE enclosure. It made more sense to keep the additional 8TB of storage rather than sell them for $50 each with SSD prices being as low as they are.

Newegg is great. Got the redeem code after I asked for it last night (just realized I qualified for the game because of you guys). Then I went to AMD rewards, got my serial no, installed that into the EA app, and am downloading the game (when my Intel wifi isn't blowing up on me that is). In fact, if I wasn't so impatient, I would have bought the video card from there too (wanted it immediately after my last one almost died playing C&C red alert 2 lol).

16tb of SSD? No wonder you only own a geForce 1060. You spent so much money on SSDs that you're broke. 🤣🤣

Yeah just went to the AMD site and got my code... downloading game now will check it out after work and post my performance numbers... and it's a 4090.

 

[Colif]

interesting bug no one here will run into right away. It seems if you try to play game on more than 2 PC and 3 GPU, it sees them all as different PC and won't let you play on 3rd. It might be a time restriction.

 

[zx128k]

interesting bug no one here will run into right away. It seems if you try to play game on more than 2 PC and 3 GPU, it sees them all as different PC and won't let you play on 3rd. It might be a time restriction.

Sounds like copy protection.

 

[Colif]

It seems to run better on AMD

it does have copy protection so perhaps.

 

[zx128k]

It seems to run better on AMD

it does have copy protection so perhaps.

It seems so but vram usage is much higher than on the 4090. Its hitting above 15GB.

 

[Colif]

it gets to 17gb in that video. I have seen that AMD cards use more vram in general. Might be why most of them have more than Nvidia. It still has 9gb free.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

It seems to run better on AMD

Yeah I heard something about that. I've got the CPU but don't have the GPU and never have. Been Team Green since the GeForce3 in 2001.

 

[Colif]

Only had 2 real AMD GPU in 23 years. 1st was an ATI rage Pro but it was onboard graphics so won't count it. Good chance my 7900xt could play game but CPU would be a problem. Its really not my type of game anyway so I just watching it unfold.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Only had 2 real AMD GPU in 23 years. 1st was an ATI rage Pro but it was onboard graphics so won't count it. Good chance my 7900xt could play game but CPU would be a problem. Its really not my type of game anyway so I just watching it unfold.

Honestly it's not my type of game either... but since it was free I'll give it a look.

At work looking at YouTube reviews now... one guy says he's getting 40 fps on 4K Ultra on a 2080 Ti with 3700x... he reviewed it with that hardware because most don't have a 4090 and that hardware is more baseline. Makes sense.

I'm not gonna pass any judgment until I see it for myself on my machine... because I've seen dozens of complaints about Hogwart's and Last of Us... and both run beautifully on mine at 4K 60 Ultra.