Prescott fails at .09
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Any link to backup your claim?
Or it's just another "popey" post?
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Or it's just another "popey" post?
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I didn't even have to look at the poster of this thread to know it was Pope. Pope, I'm sincerely interested in hearing some of your other opinions beyond those concerning Presscott. Every thread you post concerns something negative about Presscott and I am curious as to why. I'm fairly confident that you MIGHT possibly have some interesting opinions on other subjects that may be worth or time(ie maybe something on HL2, Doom3, or a graphics cards, or some other CPU. What do you think about Macs? By the way Pope, what hardware do you have on your rig and what games do you play? For now, the Presscott issue is becomming quite stale.
Don't get me wrong, I respect your opinions on Presscott regardless of what I may feel, and Intel may very well have some issues to resolve with Presscott. But for now, please try another subject.
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Don't get me wrong, I respect your opinions on Presscott regardless of what I may feel, and Intel may very well have some issues to resolve with Presscott. But for now, please try another subject.
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i own a p4 2.4c @ 3.0 ghz on a asus canterwood
i play mostly planetside despite the bugs
waiting on HL2, doom3, call of duty, 4 horseman of the apocolypse, may payne 2: the fall of max payne, Deus Ex 2: invisible war, Tribes 3 :vengeance, grand theft auto 4, planetside: core combat, Medal of Honor : Vietnam
i play mostly planetside despite the bugs
waiting on HL2, doom3, call of duty, 4 horseman of the apocolypse, may payne 2: the fall of max payne, Deus Ex 2: invisible war, Tribes 3 :vengeance, grand theft auto 4, planetside: core combat, Medal of Honor : Vietnam
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That's a big list there. Mine is narrowed down to HL2, Doom 3, and Jedi Academy.
Cooling the Presshott toaster issue in the fridge for a while sounds like a very good idea so it won't blow another one of them darned fuses! :lol:
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Cooling the Presshott toaster issue in the fridge for a while sounds like a very good idea so it won't blow another one of them darned fuses! :lol:
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I have been reading the posts from popegoldx and a couple of things have been consitent.
He is "definately" against Intel. At least to the degree that he continues to make sure that all bad news about Intel is heard. (Which "he?" justifies by saying he wants to uncover the "Intelliots".)
Keep in mind this is "NOT" something that I necessarily consider bad. Intel has, pretty recently, been involved in a hefty handful of things that have been bad for the computer industry in general. (And of course, there were even more problems related to their handling of affairs in the past.)
Another thing that has been "consistent" is that popegoldx has been correct.
Now his delivery, his abrasiveness, his lack of tact, his colorful language, all put aside plain and simply in the end stripped of it's metaphors, stripped of it's flowery language, most of what has been said of Intel, (and specifically Prescott), has proven to be true. (Also, I believe that much of the aformentioned attributes of his posts are intended for those purposes.)
I see some posts, "If Prescott has heat problems at .09 imagine what it will be like at .13".
Well maybe we don't have to imagine?
Maybe the Prescotts that have been going out to test have been .13 Prescotts.
Yes, Intel origonally said that Prescott would be .09 but you can be assured that they indeed meant that to be "production Prescotts". Perhaps what has been going around were "Preproduction Prescotts at .13" because the .09 wasn't working. (That could account for the unexpectedly increased heat dissapation?)
Now, they have come clean and said it will be shipped at .13?
Of course, without having any additonal information, it is also very likely that the ones being seen are indeed .09 and Intel decided that the .09 chips would not be able to function longterm dissapating that much heat, so they will go back to a larger die that dissapates more heat, but ultimately less proportionately over the entire surface area.
In the end we will know for sure, but now it's all speculation.....
He is "definately" against Intel. At least to the degree that he continues to make sure that all bad news about Intel is heard. (Which "he?" justifies by saying he wants to uncover the "Intelliots".)
Keep in mind this is "NOT" something that I necessarily consider bad. Intel has, pretty recently, been involved in a hefty handful of things that have been bad for the computer industry in general. (And of course, there were even more problems related to their handling of affairs in the past.)
Another thing that has been "consistent" is that popegoldx has been correct.
Now his delivery, his abrasiveness, his lack of tact, his colorful language, all put aside plain and simply in the end stripped of it's metaphors, stripped of it's flowery language, most of what has been said of Intel, (and specifically Prescott), has proven to be true. (Also, I believe that much of the aformentioned attributes of his posts are intended for those purposes.)
I see some posts, "If Prescott has heat problems at .09 imagine what it will be like at .13".
Well maybe we don't have to imagine?
Maybe the Prescotts that have been going out to test have been .13 Prescotts.
Yes, Intel origonally said that Prescott would be .09 but you can be assured that they indeed meant that to be "production Prescotts". Perhaps what has been going around were "Preproduction Prescotts at .13" because the .09 wasn't working. (That could account for the unexpectedly increased heat dissapation?)
Now, they have come clean and said it will be shipped at .13?
Of course, without having any additonal information, it is also very likely that the ones being seen are indeed .09 and Intel decided that the .09 chips would not be able to function longterm dissapating that much heat, so they will go back to a larger die that dissapates more heat, but ultimately less proportionately over the entire surface area.
In the end we will know for sure, but now it's all speculation.....
The engine is prettier;
It runs far better on most systems;
it actually <i>runs</i> on most systems
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I didn't actually realise they were working on a game called GTA4... I guess they couldn't just call it 5, or it would confuse stupid people (like me, obviously! )
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Anyway, I'm sure Intel simply won't release Prescott until it's happy with its 90nm process. It's not like they're under any immediate pressure from anyone.
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It runs far better on most systems;
it actually <i>runs</i> on most systems
;it's got bikes!
it's got pilotable vehicles that fly for >3 seconds.
You can enter many buildings;
etc, etc,
It's improved every single aspect of No. 3. calling it a 'bonus pack' is really stretching the definition if you ask me..
It's certainly plenty better enough, compared to the first one to justify being GTA4, if in all but name.
I didn't actually realise they were working on a game called GTA4... I guess they couldn't just call it 5, or it would confuse stupid people (like me, obviously!
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Anyway, I'm sure Intel simply won't release Prescott until it's happy with its 90nm process. It's not like they're under any immediate pressure from anyone.
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The end is nigh.. (For this post at least)
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You're saying that popegoldx is correct? Really? <i>Really, really?</i> :tongue:
Do you mean "Prescott will be delayed?" or do you mean "Something about Prescott stinks?" Or maybe "Prescott <i>fails</i> at 90nm"? (just a reminder: Scotty hasn't been delayed at all and it certainly has a long way to failure, even if it is deemed to do so...
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Do you mean "Prescott will be delayed?" or do you mean "Something about Prescott stinks?" Or maybe "Prescott <i>fails</i> at 90nm"? (just a reminder: Scotty hasn't been delayed at all and it certainly has a long way to failure, even if it is deemed to do so...
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How sure are you of this PopeGoldX? Some links would be real nice, unless this is raw speculation of course.
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Hes not sure hes just spreading shat around to see if people will join his view on the up comming Intel CPU's. The CPU will be released as Intel has already said. With considerations that they havent even commented on the power dissapation issues that are floating around the net means something...
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What I don't understand is that He bought a Pentium 4 even though he has a massive hatred towards intel - maybe he's just doing all this for laughs, right Pope?
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Ya I own a Athlon XP cause I say I do do you beleive me??? Cause if you do your stupid since I dont own one. Get the point???
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