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http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

Now who's the dumbass?

"Set Cool 'n' Quiet Default to Disabled

- With Cool & Quiet enabled, AMD processors will throttle in order to save power and bring their thermal load down. This means the processor could be running as low as 800MHz in certain programs – no matter what the program is. In theory Cool & Quiet is supposed to throttle up to maximum in games but this is not always the case. No enthusiast PC goes out with Cool & Quiet enabled unless it’s a fanless machine or media center.

Add Support for AMD Athlon 64 FX60 CPU

- According to DFI the FX-60 will not operate correctly without this bios update. Without official support for the FX-60 CPU I’m not sure what we’re comparing against here.

Fix Memory Timings 2-1-1-1-1 and 4-1-1 Mode Wrong & Fix Read Preamble Table Error.

- Memory latency can make a massive difference in performance. If the latency was not running at the correct latency we can see a pretty big difference in all kinds of performance. Anandtech stated “The AMD system used 1GB of DDR400 running at 2-2-2/1T timings…” Apparently this isn’t the case, but they would not be able to tell without having the platform in house.

Fix Fill 3114 SVID&SSID under Cross fire mode.
- More apparent performance issues under Crossfire mode.

Next, when you take a future Intel chipset and compare it to a chipset that no enthusiast supports (RD480) with an outdated bios it’s like taking a Ferrari and putting it on Bias-Ply tires. It’s just not a good way to show off a “new” technology."

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
You. That is an interesting article. Nontheless, the majority of us are not talking about Conroe killing AMD. We are talking about how Intel is getting back into the game, and possibly starting up a price war/performance war from which we will benefiet. The simple fact is this, you cannot stand that Intel is trying to fix their problems, anyone who expresses excitement you will call a troll. You laugh and say that everybody is jumping on you, but that is because you brought that on yourself by how you treated other members of this forum.
 
lolz... OHHHH.. i forgot.. you're a intel fanboyz.. so you don't know squad about cpus huh...

let me ask you..
how does ram latency not make a difference to performance?
how does cpu support not make a difference to performance?
how does SSID support not make a difference to performance?

hey mike... they probably just can't accept the truth.. that's why they just throws insults and ignorance all around the room, and continue to live in their little world XD
 
lolz... OHHHH.. i forgot.. you're a intel fanboyz.. so you don't know squad about cpus huh...

let me ask you..
how does ram latency not make a difference to performance?
how does cpu support not make a difference to performance?
how does SSE/SSID support not make a difference to performance?

hey mike... they probably just can't accept the truth.. that's why they just throws insults and ignorance all around the room, and continue to live in their little world XD
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Lol I know, I guess since I was one of the only people to still believe in AMD, and now I have PROOF, they can't just say "we're sorry, let's forget this", I would just move on, but I still get flamed after proving Conroe was rigged, it's sad.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
seriously.. they just don't know what they are talking about

and also..

how do you know if its really FX -60? anand tech didn't take off the heatsink fan and take a picture of FX-60. maybe its actually an athlon xp XD..

OOOOHHH.. i forgot.. intel probably wouldn't let them take off the heatsink huh.. then their little "conroe is 20% + in performance" is nothing but a LIE

HOLY!!! "Conroe has shown a 20% improve against retiring AMD Athlon XP"...
how does that sound? 😀
 
Sure troll.

I'm sure they would have run CPUZ and/or various diagnostics or something to test everything out.

how does ram latency not make a difference to performance?
how does cpu support not make a difference to performance?
how does SSE/SSID support not make a difference to performance?
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1. It does but it'd be minimal.
2. Minimal difference.
3. Minimal again.

Jez you cry babies need to get over that AMD have been trumped. They'll come back with socket AM2 and trump intel and extend the lead further when they roll out 65nm. Sad little fan boys.
 
Sure troll.

I'm sure they would have run CPUZ and/or various diagnostics or something to test everything out.

how does ram latency not make a difference to performance?
how does cpu support not make a difference to performance?
how does SSE/SSID support not make a difference to performance?
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1. It does but it'd be minimal.
2. Minimal difference.
3. Minimal again.

Jez you cry babies need to get over that AMD have been trumped. They'll come back with socket AM2 and trump intel and extend the lead further when they roll out 65nm. Sad little fan boys.

Oh shut up you stupid moron, Conroe was proved to be a hack, get over yourself and stop denying, sheesh.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
Still believe in AMD? What is this a religion? Mad Mike I have said this a million times and I will say it one more, the majority of us are NOT writting off AMD. We are merely speculating on whether or not Intel will regain the crown, and if not, what effect will this have on the industry? How will AMD responed? You seem to know alot about AMD, someone hinted that you worked for them. If you do, then can you say that AMD has something up it's sleeve? If not then why the flaming? You also got this bent out of shape when people said that AM2 wasn't shapping up like we thought it might? Why? If your goal is to make people want to people buy AMD do you think this bully tactic will work? Why is it that I am an intel fanboy, even though I have never posted anything anti-amd, have in fact asked whether or not I should get an opteron or an athlon x2, and as of recently asked you to stop bullying other members of this forum. I see nothing that makes me an intel fanboy. Or is it just because I do not have an AMD tatoo on my head? Is it because I am thinking about the possibility of buying a Conroe? How about this. Hypothetically, what if intel did beat AMD, hypothetically speaking, would me buying the intel processor because it was better make me a fanboy? Would you say, ok I was wrong, or would you become like the intel fanboys on this thread who said AMD sucked even when the benchmarks clearly showed otherwise?
 
How is conroe a hack? Wrong again you lame troll.
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Give it up. I'm done fighting with you and other fanboys, this is ridiculous. Have fun continuously insulting me, I won't respond to that crap anymore, good day sir.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
 
First of all this is the first time I've seen Bullshitter in a while so welcome back. I guess you've won out over THG afterall.

Now, I know you didn't write the article, but I'm wondering how Mr. Sood knew that the DFI motherboard was using the D49C-32 BIOS version. His entire argument centres upon Intel using that BIOS version which didn't include many fixes that would have affected performance.

He saids:

You’ll notice that the image I am referring to on Anandtech's website (the bios image) states that the AMD processor is “unknown” which makes me believe that the bios they are running is outdated. So, I did a bit of digging and low and behold, the DFI bios version “D49C-32” they are running is from 10/11/05.
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However, I click the link he gives and I don't see D49C-32 mentioned anywhere. The BIOS image that Anandtech provides only states the AwardBIOS v6.00PC is included which I don't think is the actual BIOS version. Maybe I'm not reading the image properly?

Interestingly, when I type D49C-32 into Google nothing comes up.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=D49C-32&meta=

According to the DFI website there are only 2 BIOS versions available the RDXDC23 and the rdx2a11.

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/bios_download_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=3669&CATEGORY_TYPE=LP&STATUS_FLAG=A&SITE=NA

Now Sood specifically claims that the BIOS Intel was running was the D49C-32 so I think he's probably referring to the RDXDC23. The funny thing is the RDXDC23 was released on 2005/12/23 and includes all the fixes all the problems that he claims the AMD test system had. If we go by date, the only BIOS released on 10/11/05 was the rdx2a11 whose name looks nothing like the D49C-32 that he's referring to. I haven't actually tried installing the BIOSes on the website since I don't have the correct board, but I'm assuming their file names are representative of their contents.

Maybe I'm seeing things or overanalysing the situation, but if you could point me to the image on the Anandtech article that Sood said showed that the motherboard was running the D49C-32 BIOS version that would be appreciated. If you can also clear up the discrepancy of just which DFI BIOS version that the Sood is saying Intel was tricking us with that would also be nice.
 
I do hope that Intel's chip is reasonable.
The problem arises now, because Intel is showing that conroe is much better than Amd.
So ,do I wait the 5 or so months for conroe?
Do I pre-order as soon as possible?
Then, at the end of september, when all the benches are in, and conroe is a bust, have I waited 6 months for zip, or have I blown a wad of cash for a not quite as good chip?
I will say, right up front, that the numbers for the FX60 just look wrong.
I will also say that it is a bad idea to wait for conroe. Based on the Intel benchmarks, I would say they are more hype than hot.
 
Are you calling me a fanboy? You misinterpreted everything I've said.
Find one post of mine that wasn’t a joke ending with a face of some sort to signify humor.

Another thing I love is your use of the word "Fanboy". You use it so often while claiming Intel is not as good as AMD.
 
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