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This is insane! Just further proof why not to buy the CX series. This person has 8 computers. They are not in the same building, they are all in different locations. They are all identical machines, without even a dedicated GPU. All machines run 24/7. Every single computer experiences a total freeze within a 48 hour period. Every single one. Can it be the CPU, RAM, or HDD? Nope. No way that those are all faulty in all 8 machines. Motherboard? I don't think so. All the machines have a CX 430 and are like a month old. Even I am baffled. 8 computers, PSU failing in all of them? This is nuts!

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2991761/computer-freezing.html#17604343

I think part of it is the CX not being designed well to run 24/7.
 


What else could it possibly be? Reviews don't test reliability, they test how well a unit performs brand new. It's just very baffling. If it's not the PSU, I'm going to need some further enlightenment on what it could be. The only other realistic option would be the motherboard.
 
I honestly don't know, that whole situation is very strange, maybe some very weird virus got spread over all the machines as I agree with Tiny Voices here, I can't imagine that all 8 of the PSU's would have gone bad already
 


Let's keep in mind that these are freezing once every 48 about, so it's not like they're turning on the machine and running it an hour or two. They are sporatic freezes.
 
Definitely not the PSUs. We need to quit with the CX hate. They are not that bad. If these machines had Diablotek units, maybe, but no chance the CX430s are the issue.

I'm guessing RAM or motherboard possibly. OR an application he has installed on all of them (this is my real guess).

But, not PSU. No way.
 
It's within 48 hours, does anyone have info on the hold-up time of the CX 430? The CX 500 is below spec

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Can't seem to find the 430. Though I don't think hold-up time would cause freeze but a shut down instead. I don't think the CX's are necessarily faulty, even the capacitors are more than likely fine, but are just having small trouble every 48 hours, running for these long durations. Sorry Tiny, but I think that's what it is. The person's software worked perfectly fine for 2 years. Upgraded to CX 430 2 months ago. Evidence-wise it points to the PSUs.
 
I have had to replace several CX430s in the last few years so I certainly would not call them "good" by any means, BUT... I find it hard to believe that 8 out of 8 psus are all faulty at the same time like that. There's just no way. They're not THAT bad.

All of them failing within 2 years? Yeah I would believe that.

All of them failing after 2 months? No way.


It has to be something else.
 


Well, slight revelation here. Now the person says he's been running CXs in 100+ systems. So I guess it's only 8 out of 100+, so that makes sense. If he had said that sooner, it would have made a lot more sense, but he literally made it sound like there were exactly 8 computers in total.

And "failing" may be an exaggeration. They only freeze every 48 hours about. That's not that badly failed, though probably on the road.
 
He said they have the exact same hardware. Let's remember, even though he has had these CX for 2 months, they've been running 24/7. That's about equal to a normal person who uses his computer 3 hours a day for 16 months. It's a total realistic possibility that 8 out of 100+ are causing a freeze every 48 hours.
 
He never really said that they were ALL CX430s. He just said that they were all Corsair 430-450w implying that has also has one or more CS450s.


There's no way all of these PCs are failing in the same way at the same time from a psu issue.
 


Well he needs to be more clear from the get-go. It's like playing Wheel of Fortune.
 


^^^This. No doubt. The only way he could have the same failures, in identical machines, is because they all have a problem common to the software installed on them all. Either that, or he's an idiot and made the exact same installation error on every machine. I did once have a guy bring me three machines at once.

A real head scratcher. Guy said all three machines were failing to boot after installing the exact same CPU cooler in each of them. Turned out he bent the CPU pins on every single one.
 

I am also inclined to agree. It could be his RAM isn't on the QVL and is having an issue. For this to suddenly start happening, in my experience, suggests a Windows update may have done the dirty.
I can't see his images though. Though not directly the PSUs, could it be a bad power problem, like a spike or surge? A decent surge protector might make a difference.
Anyway, oar inserted.
 
I don't think the same type of power problem in 8 different locations is likely, not even in 4. RAM problems would likewise be unlikely to occur after 24-48 hrs of operation, in exactly the same manner, on multiple machines. Anything is possible, software is the MOST likely though. It could even be that he's using some cracked software on all those machines, and THAT is the root of the problem. In fact, it's highly likely.
 


I have a CX430 running 24/7 with no freezes, I feel that you ought to point your blame cannon elsewhere mate. 😉
 


I didn't know your CX 430 justifies every other one in the world. And if it was a software issue, it would be happening to all 100+ computers, not just 8 out of them.

I'm fighting like a 1v5 battle right now.
 
There certainly COULD be an issue with 8 out of 100 CX430 units, but it seems unlikely they'd all display the exact same results. Besides which, seems unrealistic that somebody with that many mission critical systems wouldn't go with a much higher end unit meant for 24/7 operation, if they actually were doing what they say they're doing. Systems like that generally cost you more money when they are down, especially on multiple occasions, than the expense of a higher unit would be as a one time hit.
 


I never said it did but you do appear to have a bee in your bonnet when it comes to that particular make and model.

 
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