PSU tier list 2.0

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Considering the the marketing material made no mention of the capacitors in the unit, I would be very wary of that unit. I was surprised to see that it had 2x 6+2 pin PCI connectors though, that is one more than I expected it to have
 

Not mentioning the capacitors is hardly worthy of "OMG it's a fireball"
 
Nice. That's a great unit. Stupid JG dropped it down to a 9.3 score because of the PRICE. Just another example of why their review system has just as many flaws as this tier list. You hear me Johnny? HUH?

Nice unit MM.
 


I think its fair enough that its reviewed based on the price at time of review, most of the reviews have a score based on value so its pretty easy to see if its good or not.

In this case, 9.3 is still a good score, so that's not really relevant.
 
What'd you guys rate Corsair RM750x on this list?

I've spent my sweet months trying to find a good PSU and finally got hands on this.

Where will you rate this?
 


I think it IS relevant. That unit should have the same score, or better, than the Super Flower built 850 G2, which is only Gold rated efficiency, but doesn't, because of the manual and the price? That's ridiculous. The manual shouldn't even be a factor, at all. In fact, I'm not even sure it should be considered AT ALL. And the price, yes, there is a considerable difference between the prices of those two units, but the Gold to Platinum efficiency accounts for some of that, the fact that the Delta built unit is of incomparable build quality accounts for some of that as well.

Further, it shouldn't be assumed that the enthusiasts who ARE the market for these types of units, don't have the wherewithal to be capable of determining for themselves whether two otherwise similar quality units are the right purchase for them based on the price, rather than on the fact that what is probably NOT the better of the two units, has a much lower score, 9.3 instead of 9.9, because of the price and the stupid manual.

I guess this must be a personal choice as to whether it makes sense, but it seems to me that most people are smart enough to look at two units with similar scores, and determine the rest for themselves. Scoring should be based on factors that don't change, not on factors that change daily. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
 
And users can make that determination for themselves, because, as I said, they're not as dumb as some people apparently think they are. BTW, welcome to Tom's from the JG forum. I recognize the name. Anyhow, like I said, this is largely going to hinge on personal opinion, so I think it's pointless to argue it.
 
The majority of new PC builders when shopping for a power supply seem to do one of two things:

1) Use some silly calculator, then buy a cheap power supply from a "reputable" brand which has a labelled wattage above what the calculator says.
2) They ask on a forum what one to get.

I don't feel like any scoring system is necessarily misleading to newbie PC builders because there's no way they're even looking at PSU reviews in the first place. The only people who might possibly be misled by scores are those who are not quite newbies anymore, but are gaining somewhat of an interest in hardware, but aren't quite fully integrated, so they start looking at the scoring pages instead of reading the actual reviews.
 


I think the only people Googling for legit PSU reviews are those who are trying to help others find a power supply. For people buying for themselves, most probably don't even know PSU reviews exist, and they rely on Amazon stars or Newegg eggs.

Then again, I and you don't have statistics on this stuff, so it's a flat debate.
 
I would tend to agree with you here Turkey, as I know that when I started out, I would only look at the reviews that people put on amazon and newegg as I didn't know better and that it is only after I started to help people that I actually looked at proper reviews, and the score was important
 
I posted on this subject earlier, and what I stated was just as valid as it is now. Turkey is right, as in the right ballpark. Ppl with enough knowledge to know what a psu is, do actually read the reviews. The Amazon and newegg ones. But thats only because of 2 reasons. 1. Those are retail sites so when looking for a psu, the reviews are plainly listed in front of their noses and 2. The good reviews by ppl like TPU and JG are not really written in plain English, more like tech-speak, so for the average Joe become undecipherable, leading them to skip straight to the scores.

If you want to change the game, figure out a way to get those good reviews stickied to amazon/neweggs sites. Someone looking at 4 psus, 1 good review, 1 so-so review and 2 with no reviews, guess what gets bought. That would put a serious damper on junk getting sold to the uninformed public.
 
They're frequently faked anyway, or they ship golden samples.

80+ already requires that PSUs can output rated wattage without catching fire.

None of that will fix the issue. What fixes the issue is safety standards being mandatory like they are in just about every other first-world country. That shifts it from being a civil issue (you put our mark on a product without permission/broke the contract) to a criminal one.

Selling noncompliant electrical products can get you jail time in many places - the retailer, the importer, and the manufacturer.
 


This.


AND, regardless of what some clearly tainted detractors might think, (which by the way, sure is funny how fast somebody from the JG forums made their way here after I posted that comment. I wonder who gave them the heads up? Not that I mind. I'd prefer they see that there is disagreement in the methodology they're using since they're one of the only reliable testing sites around.), if two units of otherwise fairly comparable quality have an otherwise comparable score, even the dumbest of dummies can probably figure out for themselves whether a 120.00 or 180.00 unit makes more sense for them.

Despite the opinions to the contrary, even those with average intellect can add and subtract, and thereby determine which of two items has better value if they have otherwise comparable build quality based on an accurate scoring system that only judges units by the quality of it's build and functional capability.
 
Just to recap my lost post (arrgh):
The list is a bit confusing, re: the name at the start of a paragraph, and the manufacturer names below it, l take it one is the actual manufacturer, and the other companies license it?

But sometimes, there's no manufacturer as the heading, it's just [Manufacturer] [Product title] [Manufacturer] - quite confusing.

Perhaps the colours could be replaced by "[Bronze]" "[Gold]" etc? I dunno, l guess if you get used to it it's easy.

I hopefully won't need to get used to it as l think l've found the PSU l want, via that list.

Oh, one more thing: I noticed in the 2nd section of Tier Three, you mention HEC Compucase. However, they are blacklisted in Tier Five? Is it just that HEC Compucase are licensing the product in Tier Three, but Tier Five blacklists them as actual manufacturers, rather than license holders?
 
Yep. The vendor specs out the psu, parts and performance and build quality, and thats what H/C builds so ends up usually as higher quality than the psu spec'd out for the OEM brand lines. Unlike SuperFlower (which also puts out some junk) H/C has no high end OEM lines like the leadex or golden green/HX to detract from this.
 
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