PSU tier list 2.0

[alainch]

The issue with the tier list was that it was never accurate and was being used in ways it shoudln't.
....
I am sure if you Google it though you can find the list somewhere.

Add this message on the first post!

I agree with you, I can also reach that conclusion by myself...
BUT,

.... but the list can also been moved, misplaced, or I'm wrong at looking it .

Say it ! No doubt left !

Alain

 

[Darkbreeze]

That was the issue with the list from one perspective. From another perspective, the person who created and maintained the list simply lost interest in doing so, and with being a member here, and was too busy with other aspects of his life to want to spend the gross amount of time that was necessary to research, read reviews, categorize, post, make changes, remove antiquated listings, answer questions and respond to criticism, all of which are necessary in order to maintain the list.

We do have Linus's list to go by as a reference, it's not that bad.

Cough.

 

[Darkbreeze]

The issue with the tier list was that it was never accurate and was being used in ways it shoudln't.
....
I am sure if you Google it though you can find the list somewhere.

Add this message on the first post!

I agree with you, I can also reach that conclusion by myself...
BUT,

.... but the list can also been moved, misplaced, or I'm wrong at looking it .

Say it ! No doubt left !

Alain

So, you need to rethink this. It's not like this list was some official part of Tom's hardware, maintained by staff and sanctioned by the powers that be. This was a privately created user member list, maintained by that person and in no way controlled by the moderation team, staff or the site in general. What you're asking is like asking General motors to personally go into some town somewhere and force some vehicle owner to get a tune up when they don't want to. Or to drag their car to the car crusher because it's sitting in the driveway.

 

[jankerson]

That was the issue with the list from one perspective. From another perspective, the person who created and maintained the list simply lost interest in doing so, and with being a member here, and was too busy with other aspects of his life to want to spend the gross amount of time that was necessary to research, read reviews, categorize, post, make changes, remove antiquated listings, answer questions and respond to criticism, all of which are necessary in order to maintain the list.

We do have Linus's list to go by as a reference, it's not that bad.

Cough.

I said not THAT bad. 😀

It's tolerable as a rough reference.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

The LTT tier list has this as the first unit in tier 1. Keep in mind that they have 7 tiers.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story7&reid=532

I didn't make it any further than that. :lol:

 

[jankerson]

The LTT tier list has this as the first unit in tier 1. Keep in mind that they have 7 tiers.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story7&reid=532

I didn't make it any further than that. :lol:

I saw that too, maybe it was a type-o?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Yeah, it wasn't. The list is THAT bad. That list is EXACTLY 100% why tier lists have a bad name.

 

[miguellagartoramos]

Seasonic M12II-520 EVO Bronze 80Plus Power Supply 520watts Modular, what tier is this?

 

[Karadjgne]

Might as well be a solid 3 now, not for build, that's still a good psu, but it's group regulated so it's outputs are solidly mediocre compared to other dc-dc designs in the same range like Corsair CXM etc.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Seasonic M12II-520 EVO Bronze 80Plus Power Supply 520watts Modular, what tier is this?

Just about anything made by Seasonic is good quality for the most part. There are really no bad Seasonic units and only a very few that are even somewhat mediocre. They do make a few less-good quality OEM style units, but mostly those are not going to be units you come across at most vendors, and they are still not bad. Also, the S12II and M12II 520 and 620w units are older, group regulated models.

At one time they were among the best units you could buy. Now, they are outdated and not as good as almost any other Seasonic models. They are however still better than a LOT of newer designs by other manufacturers.

 

[woahwoahwilly]

That was the issue with the list from one perspective. From another perspective, the person who created and maintained the list simply lost interest in doing so, and with being a member here, and was too busy with other aspects of his life to want to spend the gross amount of time that was necessary to research, read reviews, categorize, post, make changes, remove antiquated listings, answer questions and respond to criticism, all of which are necessary in order to maintain the list.

We do have Linus's list to go by as a reference, it's not that bad.

I used a Techquickie video (made by LINUS) on my now closed Internet discussion about why the internet goes out randomly. It could've been that 1) the video was from 2014, and 2) Linus is from Canada, where things could be different, but I'm pretty sure it might've just been Linus.

Still like his channel though.

 

[Darkbreeze]

There is nothing about Linus that is likable to me. His tech is usually far fetched or just plain wrong. And in person, he's a real asshat as exemplified by his behavior at several of the major tech shows where people we know through Tom's Hardware had the express displeasure of meeting him personally and seeing firsthand his antics and behavior. IMO, he's toxic and an idiot.

 

[Karadjgne]

I used to think Linus was OK bug then I watched a video about him submerging a functional pc in a fishtank type specialty case full of mineral oil. $10k price tag for an absolute mess, impossible to move pc that'd only cost @$1500 back then. Just for the wow factor cuz it definitely does not serve any other purpose. Try getting mineral oil out of the carpet if that thing ever sprung a leak... Total waste of time imho. Lost all credibility (what little was left after lookin at his psu list).

 

[jimmysmitty]

I used to think Linus was OK bug then I watched a video about him submerging a functional pc in a fishtank type specialty case full of mineral oil. $10k price tag for an absolute mess, impossible to move pc that'd only cost @$1500 back then. Just for the wow factor cuz it definitely does not serve any other purpose. Try getting mineral oil out of the carpet if that thing ever sprung a leak... Total waste of time imho. Lost all credibility (what little was left after lookin at his psu list).

That's not even that creative. Toms did this WAY back in 2006:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/strip-fans,1203.html

Unfortunately looks like the original article lost the images. Was back when TH used to do unique things. Such as the classic pull the fan off while running Quake and watch CPUs start to smoke test.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Haven't seen this level of crap from a 'name' brand in years.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=563

 

[jankerson]

Haven't seen this level of crap from a 'name' brand in years.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=563

What a piece of junk....

Talk about a system killer....

 

[Darkbreeze]

Doesn't surprise me. I don't trust anything from Cooler Master except their cases. Old cases, not new ones.

 

[Karadjgne]

I thought that weapons of mass destruction were a little more tightly regulated when crossing international boundaries.

Should sticky that JG link, get the feeling it's going to see some usage.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I think I could probably retroactively use it for about fifty threads, minimum.

 

[jankerson]

I think I could probably retroactively use it for about fifty threads, minimum.

At the very least....

 

[jimmysmitty]

Haven't seen this level of crap from a 'name' brand in years.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=563

He had to use cheap three times as a good part.

 

[Onus]

No surprises there, from that brand. There is ALWAYS a better choice; you need to move if there isn't, where you are.

 

[jimmysmitty]

No surprises there, from that brand. There is ALWAYS a better choice; you need to move if there isn't, where you are.

I was never a fan of CM designs even cases. People loved the HAF 932 and I thought it was meh.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I had a Storm enforcer, which of course I had to extensively modify to conform to my needs. For it's time though, it was a pretty decent case. I still have it and will likely use it again when I get around to redoing my shop system. Other than a very few case designs though, I've never seen a CM product that actually made me think I needed to have it, or could settle for it, against much better options.

The Storm enforcer case I only bought because I got it for half price on a day when I really needed a new case, and the local shop I got it from was going out of business. It was a good buy in that scenario. Normally, I'd have gone a different way.

 

[jimmysmitty]

I had a Storm enforcer, which of course I had to extensively modify to conform to my needs. For it's time though, it was a pretty decent case. I still have it and will likely use it again when I get around to redoing my shop system. Other than a very few case designs though, I've never seen a CM product that actually made me think I needed to have it, or could settle for it, against much better options.

The Storm enforcer case I only bought because I got it for half price on a day when I really needed a new case, and the local shop I got it from was going out of business. It was a good buy in that scenario. Normally, I'd have gone a different way.

I have only had one case. My current Crystal 570X. Its just too pretty of a design and I like removing the 5.25" bays in favor of a third fan (and triple rad support). Other than that most cases were just to suit the build. I liked my 500R as it had great wire management. My Xaser II was a nice big case.

Will probably keep the 570X for some time to come. Especially since I can just order a replacement for the top to migrate to Type-C if needed.