PSU tier list 2.0

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Hah. If we didn't have corsair psus to grumble over, we could finally get to the really important issues, like chocolate VS vanilla VS strawberry and the mediocre sacrifice of putting all 3 flavors in the same tub.

Edit: sorry if that remark was a little off-topping
 


I asked that the CX series be lowered to tier 4 because of the huge numbers of them that I was and continue to encounter that appear to have failing capacitors in the 1 to 2 year range. In other words, the CX tests out really well new. Then 1 to 2 years later, huge numbers of them seem to have cheap capacitors already failing.

While I have seen some VS units doing the same things, I have seen far less of them than I have seen of the CX units.

I do not maintain the rating systems. When I requested the change on the CX series last month, it was the first time I had posted in the thread that power supply list is in. I was told shortly after I posted that request, in private, that the change would never happen, as it had been up for discussion previously. So I was shocked that after a good discussion, the change was made. I obviously think we made the right call on the CX series. I am not sure yet that the VS is the same or worse, or maybe even better. But I am sure that if things start changing to show they need to be changed, we will at least talk about possible changes.
 
I believe the VS is sold primarily in the indo-asian 220v market, so while European/Canadian 220v testing of those VS units is available, the majority of consumers having failure issues aren't posting these results where testers/researchers can get access to the numbers. I also suspect that as cheap and readily available they are, there is less concern over warranty returns due to failure and a lot more 'throw it away and buy another' mentality. All of which adds up to large sales numbers for corsair, few warranty returns for failure, so an unrealistic view of exactly how many are actually failing vrs brand popularity.
 
I get a lot of those here though too. Its pretty obvious that many of these people are using translators to talk to us. I often have to stop and think about the words they are using, and try to understand what they are attempting to express. Fortunately for me, I learned spanish as a young kid, and while I have forgotten lots of it over the decades, the differences between language structures between english and spanish are something you never forget. So I can sometimes pick up on things that I probably would not have understood correctly if I had never learned to speak spanish.
 



Not really. Plenty of other junk out there. Some other brand, Cooler Master probably, would fill the niche nicely when it comes to having to advise against buying poo poo.
 



Not to mention the high number of users who likely just trash the whole rig thinking the whole unit's worn out when one of them fails, and never bothers to even address the idea it might be just the power supply. Eh, I'm getting a motherboard/cpu/ram error so it's probably time for a new rig, and Corsair doesn't have to eat the return ratio or an even worse rep. Unlikely to happen that way with higher end units, because they're, um, higher end. If one fails, the kind of person who'd be likely to buy one is GOING to take advantage of that warranty, especially since they're generally longer than Corsairs 3yr plan.
 

what? everybody knows logsys makes junk power supplies. you need at least 850w 80+ rated power supply to run fx9590 and quad-fired r9 290x. a raidmax 850w power supply is a gamer's choice psu. it's got 850w maximum power and 80+ rating. at 29 bucks, it's a steal!
 


They were popular for a short time but 80 Plus Silver was overtaken by 80 Plus Gold pretty quickly. There is just no market for either making or selling Silver rated units anymore.
 


I do listen to the community. I stated months ago, hell probably a year ago now, that the Corsair CX and VS models would stay at tier 3, since they were better than most junk that was found, such as Aerocool and Akasa. But since then, there has been more reports of the CX and VS series units failing in that one year gap, it just had to be moved, especially when I was seeing their higher wattage models getting panned badly by HardOCP, JonnyGuru and others.
 
Agreed. Sometimes it just takes time to know where something belongs. When the chips start to fall you can better see where they will land. I think the right call was to wait until you were sure they belonged there so as not to unfairly predicate placement. I think we all know they belong where they now are after the changes that were made by Corsair.
 

My thoughts exactly, although I see that Dynex and Logisys have reared their ugly heads as well.
 
guys, i thought seasonic s12II bronze was discontinued, it's still on the tier list. i know those psus are very well regarded, no argument there. after checking rhtx, seems that seasonic has kept the model name but chenged the base platform to single rail. older ones might have been really discontinued. s12 II seems to be all discontinued. there seems to be a older two rail getting newer single rail trned going on with s12ii bronze, m12 ii bronze evo psus. the newer ones are on un-tiered list.

as for antec, there seems to be a new ea 350 psu with 20A on two +12v rails, delta oem. the older one got discontinued. same model name different er... circuitry...?. at least better than what rosewill did with it's capstones. according to antec website the price is $60. seasonic s12g 450 and 550 both are selling for $70 on newegg, s12g 550 is $60 after $10 m.i.r.
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i don't know how other brands are gonna beat these s12g's.
*corsair calls cwt for a capXcheapo-equipped, 80+ gold rated 350-750w gamer psu lineup*
*cwt delivers within 2 days*

 
There's no mistake, and I'm sure Dottorent is well aware of the differences between the older S12-II and the newer revision, as are many of the rest of us. The older model is still being widely sold and is a reliable unit so I don't think it's a model that needs to leave the current listing just yet, IMO.
 


I'll offer up a prayer to the PSU and GPU card Gods for you, you may need it. :)
 

i was thinking more like somehow labeling the older units with release years e.g. s12 ii bronze (20xx) or (older) and in case the newer ones have different oems, (HEC) or (CWT).
 
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