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The Photon is better than tier 3. Don't take too much from that list. Its just the opinions of a few posters. Nothing more. Read reviews for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
 


The Raider isn't Fortran's best offering, but it wouldn't worry me. There isn't a whole lot of review data for the silver version. It could be the same unit, since the bronze version could do silver, even though it wasn't rated as such. They don't offer the best voltage regulation or ripple control, but it was well within specs. The efficiency is outstanding for a unit in its price range.

If you have it already, roll with it. If your buying new, the value equation becomes more complicated for the Raider.
 
I really appreciate the work you've done! One thing though, could you please separate the tiers with something (maybe underline them with a bold line, or add more space between every tier, or just color all the "tier" words with one special color, etc...) so they are better distinguished.

Thanks :)
P.S. I think Huntkey should be added to tier 4 or 5 (I would say tier 5 fits more), they are famous in the low-end market so they deserve to be mentioned. 😀
 
Huntkey's newer units aren't so bad. HardwareSecrets smoked [almost] ALL of their older ones, but the newer 80+ [bronze] certified ones were good for their labels.
The Photon was probably rated lower than it may deserve because some people still think of Rosewill as tainted, although they started turning things around with their RG and Hive units years ago; it just shows how long a junk-PSU reputation can last. Also, has anyone done a thorough review of one yet, including dissection, or are people just estimating based on the OEM?

Edit: The #1 case of the length of warranty being irrelevant is the Ultra LSP series. They've got a lifetime warranty, but are severely overrated. I think what has "saved" them is that Tiger recommends a much bigger one than should be needed.
 


My reply was in response to this, not to whether or not Raidmax made the unit, which of course they don't since they don't MAKE power supplies, they just sell them, or to any determinate warranty period. It was simply a reply to this comment:

any PSU manufacturer than had units failing under warranty all the time wouldn't be in business very long
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Which as we all know is far from accurate.
 


I'm going to have to correct you here too. It's not the opinions of a few posters. It's Dottorents calculation according to available reviews, specifications, internal quality and general consensus as seen over time both here and through other various venues. The only opinions it's based on are the opinions of the lab techs that do the reviews, which I'd certainly have to trust sooner than those offered by reviews that don't include extensive lab testing or people who THINK a unit is good because "I've used it for five years with no issues" while ten others have had to RMA theirs. It's a lot more scientific than speculative.
 


Sparkle is owned and made by FSP. Apparently, they have some pretty decent units, and probably some exceptionally terrible ones as well, since that's how it generally runs with FSP.

Who's who/Sparkle: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-psu-brands,3762-9.html

Probably need to add this one to the tier list, somewhere.:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=212

 


Is there a SPECIFIC model you were looking at? Keep in mind, always, that 80plus ratings don't really mean anything unless the unit already has great quality otherwise. Any POS on the street can have an 80plus rating. Many of them are fake anyway or certified through questionable testing.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu/#.VRsvk-ktFhF

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/power-supplies-with-fake-80-plus-badges/1054
 


basically any/only the units that are in the lower price range, below the FSP Aurum / Seasonic / refurb Corsair AX760.

i'm genuinely eyeing that refurbed AX760... a BNIB AX760 would be a stretch, but techpowerup's review tells me is a helluva unit (for my i5/GT640 system)
 
Three opinions, are just that, opinions. I don't think anybody ever tried to indicate the list was a bible, or was clinically accurate based on every possible considerable criteria, or that anybody, including you, had to use it. It's merely a matter of convenience for quick reference and for novice users who have no idea whatsoever about what qualifies a power supply as good, bad or otherwise.

Since you're constantly bashing the list, why don't you consider simply avoiding it's use or posting on the thread, that way, your very refined sensibilities and higher technical prowess won't be offended by what you see, hear or read here. I don't like McDonalds, so I don't eat there. Seems simple enough to me.
 
Yep I trust it too, if any of you don't trust it just go away and search for something better if you can :) nothing is perfect but this is the best PSU list I've ever seen. P.S. Any word on my suggestion dottorrent?
 


I don't think I received one, unless it was on the old list. What was it again?

And the old list is due to retire very soon.
 


That was my suggestion: "could you please separate the tiers with something (maybe underline them with a bold line, or add more space between every tier, or just color all the "tier" words with one special color, etc...) so they are better distinguished."


Thanks. :)
 
I believe he means something like this:


Tier One
The highest quality and most stable Power Supply Units available. Protected by industrial grade protection circuitry and can output wattage at a rated maximum temperature of 50°C or below. These units are also Haswell certified, meaning they can cope with the C6 and C7 sleep states of 0.05Amps without triggering the under-current protection switch. May even go over labelled wattage and still work until it safely shuts down.


Antec High Current Pro Platinum Delta Electronics
Be Quiet Dark Power Pro P10 / 850w FSP (550w - 750w) / Seasonic (850w - 1200w)

Corsair
AX / AXi series 760w - 1200w Seasonic (AX) / Flextronics (AXi)
AX1500i Flextronics
HXi Channel Well Technology

Cooler Master V series / V series 1200w Seasonic
EVGA SuperNova G2 / P2 / T2 Super Flower
Firepower Silencer MK3 1200w Super Flower
FSP Aurum PT FSP
LEPA G1600 Enermax

Seasonic
Platinum series Seasonic
Snow Silent 1050w Seasonic
X series / X series XM2 Seasonic

Silverstone Nightjar Platinum 520w Seasonic

Super Flower
Leadex Gold / Platinum Super Flower
Golden King Super Flower
Golden Silent / 430w Super Flower

XFX
Pro series Black edition Seasonic
Pro series Black edition Limited Edition 1000w Seasonic
Pro series XXX / Semi-Modular Seasonic
XTS Fanless Seasonic

______________________________________________________________________________________


Tier Two
As above, just slightly lower quality. Still safe to use and are all stable for any PC of today's standards, including Haswell C Stepping certification and 100% Japanese Capacitors. It is rare to find a PSU here with Taiwanese Capacitors and perform very well here, but they are here just in case.

Andyson Platinum-R 1200 (Some Teapo caps on secondary side, but check out Jonnyguru's review for this unit). Andyson

Antec
EDGE Seasonic
Earthwatts / Earthwatts Platinum Delta Electronics
High Current Gamer Delta Electronics (Non-Modular) / Seasonic (Semi-Modular)
Truepower Classic Seasonic (Essentially a Non-Modular version of the EDGE series)

Azza Platinum Super Flower
Cooler Master VS Series Enhance
Enermax Platimax Enermax



Or something similar. I too find that occasionally when I'm looking for a specific unit on there and run down the list too fast I find that I'm in the next category and didn't even realize it.
 
No problem.


Aside from that, I'm looking for confirmation from somebody who knows for sure, as I THOUGHT I did, but am now not AS sure as I was before since Blackbird said something that makes me question what I've read previously.

My thought, from having read reviews on it, was that the Antec Neo Eco 520w and 620w are the same platform as the Seasonic S12II 520w and 620w. Can anybody confirm or deny that they do in fact have the same internal platform? Thanks.

Nevermind, I found the article I was looking for:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/psu-600w-850w_5.html
 
out of all the tier 1 list which is the best buy for a gtx 970 sli configuration? i'm liking the evga and the bequiet I'd prefer to go with superflower then a seasonic. I know I couldn't go wrong with probably any of them but I want the most silent more efficient unit I could get. I've had terrible experience with coil whine in the past.i'm really leaning towards the bequiet 750w gold
 


BeQuiet's units are made by Seasonic, FSP, HEC and Topower, with Seasonic clearly being the better of all those. What is the exact model BeQuiet unit you're looking at. Personally, I'd highly recommend one of the EVGA G2 Superflower made units.


I also think it might be time for Tom's to do another new version of the Who's who in power supplies, as there have been a lot of changes since the last one. Superflower isn't even listed as an OEM for EVGA on the WW listings.
 
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