Radeon R9 290X Accidentally Priced at Online Retailer

[dragonsqrrl]

are you serious? they have been competing with nvidia at the top for a long time now, its only been for the last few months with nvidias refresh that they havent had the best performing card. What cards exactly have been subpar?

A few months? By "few" you mean 8 right?

And wow, you must not remember much before that "refresh" you're referring to, because prior to the HD7970 GHz it had been about 6 years since the last time AMD/ATI was truly performance competitive with Nvidia's single GPU high-end. In a generational match-up you'd have to go back to the X1900/7900 series to find the last time ATI had a card that was at or above the performance level of the highest-end competition from Nvidia.

 

[rolli59]

are you serious? they have been competing with nvidia at the top for a long time now, its only been for the last few months with nvidias refresh that they havent had the best performing card. What cards exactly have been subpar?

A few months? By "few" you mean 8 right?

And wow, you must not remember much before that "refresh" you're referring to, because prior to the HD7970 GHz it had been about 6 years since the last time AMD/ATI was truly performance competitive with Nvidia's single GPU high-end. In a generational match-up you'd have to go back to the X1900/7900 series to find the last time ATI had a card that was at or above the performance level of the highest-end competition from Nvidia.

Not true since the HD4870 X2 was the GPU king probably longer than any other card.

 

[yyk71200]

That's probably a price with "early adopter" tax. MSRP will probably be $600-650.

 

[yyk71200]

That's probably a price with "early adopter" tax. MSRP will probably be $600-650.

 

[dragonsqrrl]

are you serious? they have been competing with nvidia at the top for a long time now, its only been for the last few months with nvidias refresh that they havent had the best performing card. What cards exactly have been subpar?

A few months? By "few" you mean 8 right?

And wow, you must not remember much before that "refresh" you're referring to, because prior to the HD7970 GHz it had been about 6 years since the last time AMD/ATI was truly performance competitive with Nvidia's single GPU high-end. In a generational match-up you'd have to go back to the X1900/7900 series to find the last time ATI had a card that was at or above the performance level of the highest-end competition from Nvidia.

Not true since the HD4870 X2 was the GPU king probably longer than any other card.

Hate to have to do this to you, especially since you referenced my entire comment directly in your post, but...

"because prior to the HD7970 GHz it had been about 6 years since the last time AMD/ATI was truly performance competitive with Nvidia's single GPU high-end."

... also the comment I responded to argued within the context of single GPU cards. But even if I had been talking about dual GPU cards, you managed to give a particularly bad example since the GTX295 also outperformed the 4870X2 that generation.

 

[Nutjob]

It seems me getting a GTX 680 last month for $329 was the correct thing to do lol.

 

[rohitbaran]

To be frank, I kind of like that AMD is willing to charge some more money for their highest end card while keeping the price of second highest series at a reasonable level ($300). They need the money and they are charging less money for a card that is more powerful than the Titan anyway.

 

[Nutjob]

It seems me getting a GTX 680 last month for $329 was the correct thing to do lol.

 

[The_Trutherizer]

I really don't get the AMD drivers = bad story. I read it every day. Yet I have never... ever... had a problem with AMD drivers. What is wrong with their drivers?

Is it some kind of meme?

 

[kartu]

It's going up against the GTX 780 and apparently costs more. That's the problem. At $599 this would be a much more attractive option.

Fanboi much?

It's going up vs Titan, costs 30% less, yet wipes the floor with it in BF4.
Oh, and it comes with BF4 too.

And with AMD's GPUs powering major consoles and most games being multiplatform, oh boy...

 

[Sakkura]

It's going up against the GTX 780 and apparently costs more. That's the problem. At $599 this would be a much more attractive option.

Fanboi much?

It's going up vs Titan, costs 30% less, yet wipes the floor with it in BF4.
Oh, and it comes with BF4 too.

And with AMD's GPUs powering major consoles and most games being multiplatform, oh boy...

It's going up against the GTX 780. The Titan is, and always was, irrelevant for gamers. This thing is more expensive than the 780. Performance has yet to be reliably tested, but a guesstimate would be similar performance to the 780 or perhaps a little more. So if it sells for $699 it won't really change things much at the extreme high end.

As for being a fanboy... you know, my avatar is an AMD graphics card...

 

[rokit]

Thats obviously pre-order retailer's price, not official selling one. They always do such stuff for the new products, nothing new here.

 

[vmem]

oh man, this would have been AMD's chance to let the prices for highend single GPU cards go down back to the 500 mark where they were :/

Yes, that's true...

but AMD would want to do that why??? they're interested in maximizing profits (and they're making a net loss every quarter), not letting the consumer save money. there are only market leaders and 'underdogs' in business, not charities 😛

that aside, I would guess this is AMD's move to milk the fanboys while they can. AMD has been known to rapidly cut prices to expand marketshare. Just look at what they did with the 7970

 

[shin0bi272]

@Sakkura: Titan wouldnt have been irrelevant to gamers if it had been called the 680 like it should have in the beginning LOL!

 

[Sakkura]

@Sakkura: Titan wouldnt have been irrelevant to gamers if it had been called the 680 like it should have in the beginning LOL!

Yes it would, because the price would still have been exorbitant. The GK110 in the Titan is enormous and therefore the price would also have to be enormous - keeping it out of reach of almost all gamers. The 780, with a crippled GK110, is still way overpriced relative to eg. the 770.

 

[Guest]

It's NOT COMPETING WITH TITAN, it's competing with 780. Others have already said that this is the BF4 bundled version as well. I could easily see this going for $599-649 without the bundle, which would be a FAR more realistic price based on the leaked [most likely driver-crippled] benchmarks, if they're legitimate.

On a separate note, here's to hoping for R9-280X with TrueAudio! :/

 

[Guest]

The_Trutherizer, you clearly didn't play Skyrim with 12.7-12.10 drivers. I've never seen artifacting like that in my life, if you could even call that artifacting. Not to mention they increased performance across the board by 15% just from a driver update, forget which one. So the 7k cards were crippled a lot by AMD's drivers and we barely knew until they actually fixed them after like 8 months or something. I had my 7850 for 3 months [before it fried and I got shafted by Sapphire's warranty], and it was actually refreshing to go back to my GTS 450. It just ran smoother.

I'm no NV fan by any stretch, but I'm not exactly looking forward to the Rx-xxx series after those disgusting drivers. Probably just going to get a 7950 seeing as how the prices are just amazing right now.

 

[huxark]

I've bought ATI 2 times, once there was a 2800 XT, I had driver issues, and a 6970, also with driver issues. I can't remember what the 2800XT driver issues were, but the 6970 driver would bluescreen my computer (something related to atikmdag.sys file), and i was not the only one. I'll never buy ATI again, ever. To be fair, I had some NVIDIA driver issues as well, on a 460 GTX I believe. Skill buttons in wow were displayed with an outline around them. The difference is I emailed NVIDIA about it and got a beta version that fixed it in 2 days. ATI did not respond to my email about theirs.
I'll get a 780 GTX in 2 months time probably.

 

[Camiji]

Its the same ole fan boy vs fan boy. Both companies offer cards to different customers, For all the problems people have with AMD drivers, Other people have with Nvidia. As for AMD in the past 6 years. They have meet Nvidia on every front, Aggressive pricing, and best Price to performance ratio. People seem to forget, the primary market for video cards is the $150-$250 price range, that's were it matters. Cards of this magnitude and price are for those select few that need to upgrade every year.

What ever it may be, which every company one picks, we as the gamers win. AMD needs Nvidia and vice versa. Competition leads to innovation. With out one, your just get the same regurgitated products with a simple rebrand.

 

[rohitbaran]

now I have seen benchmarks before and I am not the type of person to spend that much on a gpu. However this card is be shown off as a Titan comparable card and if that is true. I don't think price really matters. People in the high end market are not looking for price to performance they are look for performance. So what the R9 290X need to do is beat the Titan or 780 and it will sell.

NV will sell well because they have drivers that work correctly. Why do you think AMD gives away all the games? It's not because they like you, they have to! Most would rather buy NV and forget the games knowing they are having less driver issues (currently?). NV owns 65% of the discrete market for a reason (and it certainly isn't their free games included with each card).

BAD drivers=BAD PR. It's not rocket science. Queue typical NV haters...LOL. It sucks AMD people, but these are the facts of life for AMD owners for 2yrs and still waiting for last gen to get ironed out even as they're about to release a new gen while claiming their cards are tops for multicard pc's etc. NV couldn't launch an "AMD DRIVER SUCKS" campaign if they were problem free already. You can call it dirty, underhanded etc, but if the shoe fits...

Funny thing is that your post is pretty ironic, since you are behaving like an nVidia fanboy. AMD's drivers aren't good for crossfire, but their single cards have been on par or better than nVidia at the same price point. As for 7990, the card is not officially launched by AMD yet. So you can't really blame them for those cards not working well. When AMD launch their reference 7990, they will definitely give drivers optimized for it (if they launch the card, considering the next series is just a week away). AMD has given nVidia pretty solid competition without going in the dirty game developer bribing business. AC 4 developer was given $5 million by nVidia to optimize it for their cards. I don't know if that means unoptimizing for AMD cards as well (I hope not because UBIsoft will be pretty stupid to piss their customers with AMD cards).

 

[Mousemonkey]

I really don't get the AMD drivers = bad story. I read it every day. Yet I have never... ever... had a problem with AMD drivers. What is wrong with their drivers?

Is it some kind of meme?

No, I've had BSOD's, GSOD's and the monitor switching off randomly and it seems I'm not alone in that. Oh and not everyone has a hard on for Mantle it seems. 😗

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/04/origin-pc-drops-amd-graphics-options/#continued

 

[bobbybamf12]

So who is running the show at AMD?

 

[maxiim]

The AMD fanboyism is strong with this one.....AMD for years has had a less for less moto, what makes you think that suddenly they will release better than nvidia for less?

 

[Aphala]

£431....Getting one next year I can tell you that!!

 

[Aphala]

"
NV will sell well because they have drivers that work correctly. Why do you think AMD gives away all the games? It's not because they like you, they have to! Most would rather buy NV and forget the games knowing they are having less driver issues (currently?). NV owns 65% of the discrete market for a reason (and it certainly isn't their free games included with each card).

BAD drivers=BAD PR. It's not rocket science. Queue typical NV haters...LOL. It sucks AMD people, but these are the facts of life for AMD owners for 2yrs and still waiting for last gen to get ironed out even as they're about to release a new gen while claiming their cards are tops for multicard pc's etc. NV couldn't launch an "AMD DRIVER SUCKS" campaign if they were problem free already. You can call it dirty, underhanded etc, but if the shoe fits..."

HAHA! Nivida can't even properly control a temperature of a GPU never mind there rabid rabbie infested fan boys...