Question Report: Super Micro Dropping China-Made Components After Backdoor Reports

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I don't understand why you're so invested in this nuclear detonation theory.
Because I read the government documents that proved it to be a fact, and have had several discussions over the years with the principal members of the team that crunched the raw data that was downlinked from the VELA-B satellite that detected the blast; not to mention my own father who put that bird into polar orbit.

I don't need convincing, and I really don't care if you accept it, or not. It's no loss to me.

Okay, so let's drop it.
Please do.
 

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Because I read the government documents that proved it to be a fact, and have had several discussions over the years with the principal members of the team that crunched the raw data that was downlinked from the VELA-B satellite that detected the blast; not to mention my own father who put that bird into polar orbit.
I didn't dispute that bit. I think I was quite clear about that.

What I take issue with is your assertion that this somehow wiped out their entire intellectual and educational establishment. And yet nobody's ever heard about it. That sounds wrong on so many levels.

It seems disingenuous for you to conflate this measurable and observable evidence with your more outlandish claims that are not observable from satellites and the hard data available to your father.

Most conspiracy theories have bits of truth, at their core. Just because one part can be proven doesn't make all of it true.

I don't need convincing, and I really don't care if you accept it, or not. It's no loss to me.
Well, you keep replying on this particular point, so it seems like you're invested in it, on some level.
 
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This is fake news and you know it. There was never any remote device inside of a supermicro server that wasn't meant to be there. Some dumbass didn't know what IPKVM was.
 

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I am sick of seeing such crap as I am seeing above in this forum....

Lets be open about this....

Apple said no to the US government who wanted a BACK DOOR in all programs or processors for NATIONAL SECURITY... Most companies agreed to it but a few like Apple. America is openly spying on everyone in the intrest of National security and thinks that it has the right to the Black pot to call its counterpart kettle BLACK too as an insult.

China is probably trying to spy, but as a counter measure to the AMERICANS, who in the intrests of National security spy on all of us whether American or not.

Now Lets have a look at the track records of recent history.

Does China steal tech?
Apple out sources production to Global founderies et al meaning that all the Hardware must be given to China to produce the PCB and tech. We give it to them and they use it themselves.
So they take something that they shouldn't (illegal)
Americans; why do they use China? to exploit Cheap labour, so they use legit back doors to exploit human rights, but because they are using loop holes and no one cares, American companies comply by the letter of the law, but break laws that would be illegal in our country, but because they are not illegal in China it's OK.

Fake News, implies that the News is in Cahoots with the Established government that is in the pockets of Privateers (bankers) to exploint the people. This is one of those cases where their is no proof, but massive action is taken to undermine China that it has exploited for many years to the favor of the wester powers. The Press then Print the BS they are told, and not being tech savy, delibrerately spin it worse.

Lets have a look at a recent historical example of this behaviour... the war with Iraq. Mr Blair Lied to the British causing an illegal war. Mr Blair makes millions from it along with the warmongers and the American war machines. Truth comes out but no one in the west pays. Some people justify that it was for the best that Saddam was put down, and we leave Iraq after stealing their resources and leave their economy in tatters and the control of their country to corrupt werstern leaders (which is now being shown). Saddam ruled the middle east like an Iron first, only because he needed to to keep the terrorists subverted. We kill him (illegally) and the country goes to hell while the western nations pat each other on the back for a ruthless job well done.

Sorry AllanGH , but if you are an article editor, remind me NEVER to read your articles, you talk like a politician with the same mechanism the Politicians do. You rest all the evidence in what you are OFFICIALLY given, whether it is lies or not. So you are just another puppet of the industrial movement. If you think this is unfair, tell me where you did your research and where it is found.... Not useless articles that are also corporate controlled. Find me FAIR IMPARTIAL EVIDENCE, otherwise shut up and stop spewing crap on this forum.

You are like one of those people that say Crimea was illegally annexed, but being as I have friend that live by there who told me that they had a legit referendum where over 90% of the voters voted to be annexed, it completely changes the narrative and makes liars of all the news networks and journalists that use that anti FAKE NEWS crap that you speel here. I am happily an engineer that travels the world and Know that so much of the crap that is sold about the middle east is contrived in the west.

If you want to rant and cry AllanGH, show me using proper independant reseach that China is Definitively responsible.... Oh no you can't... It is all conjecture... just like your reasoning!
 

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I couldn't think of a better response, myself.

BTW, the part about Crimea was an interesting diversion, perhaps trying to confuse us into thinking you're a Russian troll. I'm not taking the bait, though. I think they're probably better than that.

Love the comment. You evasive answering shows how critical you are. Like a typical politician, you avoid the real questions and just pick holes in points calling troll where you cannot disagree. You have no knowledge that is worth anything in this sector. China is America, just cheaper and less ambiguous to its intentions.

The best part is, your reply is what I expected. And further more, you can brandish insults like Troll, but your response will show all that are following this thread just how weak your arguments are. Not only do you not really address any of my points, you mock without really making ME understand what you are mocking. It is almost like the Joke is only understood by you, and you are the only Geek in the corner laughing at your own joke.

Just like your original post, your response is also meaningless. I am glad that others will see it also.

Oh by the way Crimea was an example of poor FAKE NEWS which you have been accused of before in this thread, but you only mock it pointing out that it MUST MEAN that I am a Russian troll. REALLY! is that the extent of your journalistic and professional opinion?

It would appear to me that you are nothing more that an over opinionated person who hates when he is put to question. SO SO SAD!!!
 

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Well AllanGH, an actual intellectual argument that I can take many points to heart. You have rational arguments and many points that I have not considered. And you have made points that i simply recognize as rational. This is somewhat different from your first approach, but though I see some of your points as Valid, others I will again point out below.

Unlike BitUSer, you actually are not trolling and coming out with weak conjecture without counterargument. There is something that I can respond to rather than BITUSERS tripe and personal opinion and stubborn attitude towards different opinions and based fact.

Now there are a Few points AllanGH that i need you to consider without trashing on China;

Does America Steal Technology? Of course it does, this is the reason why the companies have been suing each other for many years. Intellectual theft is exactly the same as what they are claiming what china does... But mega amounts of money makes the problem go away.
Lets have a look at Microsoft for example, a company that only crated an interactive Shell, that combines essentially stolen tech. In principle the courts of law should have shut down Microsoft on principle of the company stealing others tech to make money from it. But the courts seem to allow this theft with fines far less than the rewards. This convinced many that Microsoft was being used as a state actor by the NSA to allow them to infiltrate homes of all windows uses with a standard platform. NSA has also been trying to recently bully companies into allowing backdoors into programs and hardware that allow spying, not only domestically, but internationally. This is essentially proven and shown in the fact that hackers can easily hack windows easily. Spectre was a tool made by the NSA in the first place, also showing that Intel was also a state actor deliberately leaving a vulnerability to allow spying. Hence Russia now fabricates its own processors from the ground up.

America is a country (like UK, Israel and France) that has prolific spy agencies that are now being found out to have hands in the pies of many illigal operations working abroad, but also domestically. This is made Legal by the eyes of the congress with emergency powers, so that the constitution never has to be in question.... But in that argument, the whole point of AMENDMENTS was to destroy what the founding fathers placed as an almost perfect original set of rules. What is a constitution when it can be changed altered and constantly reinterpreted at any time????

You also talk of "Kill switches", and I imagine that you are unaware of the Level 0 access on Intel processors also has a kill switch.... this was LEGIT sold as a feature of anti theft (talk about evasion of the law), but essentially Intel could send out a bunch of signals (right now) over the internet and render ALL Intel chips useless. This is worrying considering Data theft seems so easy at the moment. One state actor only needs to access the information of these Keys, decrypt it and BANG Intel users are screwed. No doubt the governments chips don't have this feature in their processors.

Intel are a victim now of their own infamy, as people now jump over to the Red team for many reasons... but more and more we see their reasoning as security... but even gamers, with the revelation of Spectre patches seriously impacting performance, are switching to AMD too. Market shares Prove my point on this.... All because of the NSA that NO AMERICAN can defend.

Quote by Ronald Regan (on my NSA argument);

" Those that trade in security for Freedom, will gain neither, and lose both!"

and that while he was President... He understood it as did Kennedy (who lost his life for it).

You cannot smear China for what America does and has been proven to do on a grander scale.....

China " We steal your tech because you GIVE IT TO US..." ;

; examples

AMD gives its Ryzen 1 blue prints to china as a royalty based pay off. China now has legal access to Ryzen tech

Intel gave them both the Atom and On board Graphics tech when it wanted to flood the smart phone market with Intel based smart phones.

So in that case China did not need to steal ANYTHING!

Now about the router problems, China blamed for not fixing problems that American routers also have... Only difference, America closes one hole with a software patch and opens another only know to Government. And this later also gets found and the cycle starts again.

Be under no illusion on this fact. My country and America are two of the worst countries in the world for Human rights abuses, With questionable policies that disrupt life domestic and abroad. China has not started a war over lies... America and UK have.

WMD shows that information (pure lies) are believed when coming from a supposed trusted source, started an illegal War killing many innocents and FEW Guilty in the name of democracy and Freedom. then Screws up countries and regions for Many decades....

Look at Afghanistan, look at Iraq, look at Lybia. It is known that these regions were ruled by dictators, but they kept the peace, they put down gangs and other 3 party rulers.... Now their dictators are gone, their countries are fragmented, ruled by Gangs and 3 party rulers and the People now wish for the old regime (and yes I have worked recently in mid east for Oil companies so I know first hand).

Please don't toot to me about western values... I am a westerner and find it a joke!

The CIA MI5 MI6 NSA MOSSAD are all as bad... if not worse than any agency from China or Russia.

My point is, POT KETTLE BLACK.....

1 finger at them, 4 back at us.

Also, China does not need to steal tech info, we keep giving them last Gen tech and they sell it on with all the flaws we left in it. It is all legit, until the propaganda says it isn't... But Tomshardware itself has let us know the giving to china of Ryzen and Atom tech. So no stealing required.

This is why China makes the market like it does. SO WE THROW OUR LAST GEN TECH AT THEM FOR NEAR NOTHING.

then we accuse them of Bootlegging.

Russia also had its nuclear problems with Chernobyl... Made out to be a reactor issue, but actually all down to 1 Manager that decided to see if he could increase effciency of a reactor and the production of Steam, by removing ALL COOLANT to let the heat get high for this to happen. Problem was, manager did not understand that the heat builds up to fast and before the Flushed systems could be refilled BOOM! Nuclear is safe,,, Mans will to make money is not.

By the way, Like your friend, I am an engineer that was Employed by the British Government to deal with some of the issues above. Sadly, like your friend, we are signed up to Official Secrets policies. I would love to expose many things that I cannot.