Question RTX 3050 6GB or RX 580 (2048)?

[box o rocks]

Help me decide between the gimped RTX 3050 6GB or gimped RX 580 (2048). I can't find any "vs" videos online of those two cards. It seems the gimped 580 is basically a RX 570 8GB, so would that be a fair comparison?

 

[patrikrk13]

are you planing to buy that 3050 new ?

 

[box o rocks]

are you planing to buy that 3050 new ?

Yes, both new.

 

[patrikrk13]

Yes, both new.

i belive there are better options on used market then them 2 cards ? depends where you located i rather get a 3070 for around 200$

 

[beyondlogic]

Help me decide between the gimped RTX 3050 6GB or gimped RX 580 (2048). I can't find any "vs" videos online of those two cards. It seems the gimped 580 is basically a RX 570 8GB, so would that be a fair comparison?

What is the amount your willing to spend and power supply your matching it with

 

[davidacellphone]

Get at least a 3060

 

[artk2219]

Help me decide between the gimped RTX 3050 6GB or gimped RX 580 (2048). I can't find any "vs" videos online of those two cards. It seems the gimped 580 is basically a RX 570 8GB, so would that be a fair comparison?

Where are you located, and how much are you looking to spend?

 

[Imperat0r]

Hello.
Please be careful.
RX570 or RX580 new can be bought only from chinese manufacturers.
Don't do that unless you want to have problems all day long.
Many of them are refurbished cards from mining era.
So unless you want to have a lot of trouble, i would suggest as @davidacellphone to try to buy at least a 3060 or from AMD you can try at least a Radeon 6600 with 8GB. That can be found on Amazon at 200 USD and a Radeon 6600 XT can be found at 220 USD.

 

[Joseph_138]

Hello.
Please be careful.
RX570 or RX580 new can be bought only from chinese manufacturers.
Don't do that unless you want to have problems all day long.
Many of them are refurbished cards from mining era.
So unless you want to have a lot of trouble, i would suggest as @davidacellphone to try to buy at least a 3060 or from AMD you can try at least a Radeon 6600 with 8GB. That can be found on Amazon at 200 USD and a Radeon 6600 XT can be found at 220 USD.

In addition, there are a lot of Chinese video cards that are made with mobile versions of popular GPU's. In many cases, they do not perform the same, as they are optimized for power efficiency and low temps for use in laptops and AIO's.

In any case, it doesn't make sense to buy an RX 580 in 2024, as Polaris and Vega are on the verge of losing official driver support. They've already been spun off onto their own support cycle, separate from RDNA, so it's only a matter of time before they are dropped entirely.

 

[box o rocks]

OK. Thank you all. I'll drop the idea of those two cards. I had my eye on a used GTX 1070 and won the bid for it at $100. That was near my budget limit. Faster than either of my original choices, yes? BTW artk2219, I'm in the US.
Still looking for patrikrk13's $200-ish GTX 3070, tho.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

OK. Thank you all. I'll drop the idea of those two cards. I had my eye on a used GTX 1070 and won the bid for it at $100. That was near my budget limit. Faster than either of my original choices, yes? BTW artk2219, I'm in the US.
Still looking for patrikrk13's $200-ish GTX 3070, tho.

The 3050 is a tad faster than the 1070. But, it also has DLSS among other benefits. IMO, the 1070 is a bad buy. But, if you're happy with it and it gives you what you want, it doesn't matter a dot what I think

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaKw1_KgGDc

 

[artk2219]

OK. Thank you all. I'll drop the idea of those two cards. I had my eye on a used GTX 1070 and won the bid for it at $100. That was near my budget limit. Faster than either of my original choices, yes? BTW artk2219, I'm in the US.
Still looking for patrikrk13's $200-ish GTX 3070, tho.

I'm glad to hear you were able to pickup a card, I was going to mention the RX Vega 56 and 64 as well since you can find those near 100 as well. The Vega 56 sits between a GTX 1070 and 1080 in performance, roughly equal to a full RTX 3050, and the Vega 64 sits between a GTX 1080 and 1080 super, slightly above a full RTX 3050 in performance. The issue is that both the GTX 1000 series and RX Vega series are currently in limited driver support due to their age. So in another couple of years you will be having to upgrade again anyway since new games wont be supported as well.

Ebay RX Vega listings

GTX 1070 VS RX Vega 56 VS RTX 3050

 

[artk2219]

If you could have stretched it a smidge more there was also the RX 5700 XT. It has better than RTX 3060 performance, just without ray tracing, and full driver support for the next few years or so.

RX 5700

 

[box o rocks]

The 3050 is a tad faster than the 1070. But, it also has DLSS among other benefits. IMO, the 1070 is a bad buy. But, if you're happy with it and it gives you what you want, it doesn't matter a dot what I think

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaKw1_KgGDc

Actually, I'd love to afford a 3050, but I was looking at the 3050 6GB which is a gimped version of the 3050.

 

[Joseph_138]

I'm glad to hear you were able to pickup a card, I was going to mention the RX Vega 56 and 64 as well since you can find those near 100 as well. The Vega 56 sits between a GTX 1070 and 1080 in performance, roughly equal to a full RTX 3050, and the Vega 64 sits between a GTX 1080 and 1080 super, slightly above a full RTX 3050 in performance. The issue is that both the GTX 1000 series and RX Vega series are currently in limited driver support due to their age. So in another couple of years you will be having to upgrade again anyway since new games wont be supported as well.

Ebay RX Vega listings

GTX 1070 VS RX Vega 56 VS RTX 3050

Vega also has much higher power requirements, so it's less than ideal. If you're considering a Vega card, you should also consider the first generation RDNA cards. They will give better performance than Vega 56 and 64, and with a lot less power consumption. They will also be in driver support longer.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Actually, I'd love to afford a 3050, but I was looking at the 3050 6GB which is a gimped version of the 3050.

Yikes, don't touch it (the 6gb version). It's a dud.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Help me decide between the gimped RTX 3050 6GB or gimped RX 580 (2048). I can't find any "vs" videos online of those two cards. It seems the gimped 580 is basically a RX 570 8GB, so would that be a fair comparison?

Neither. If your budget is in the price category of those cards, just get an RX 6600. It destroys every version of both the RX 580 and RTX 3050. While I would recommend an RX 580 for something like an HTPC if the price is low enough, I wouldn't recommend it for gaming and I wouldn't recommend the RTX 3050 for any reason. It's no better at gaming than the old RX 580 and costs almost as much as the RX 6600, the world's undisputed budget king.

An RTX 3050 6GB currently costs $170 while an RX 6600 costs $20 more at $190. That makes the RX 6600 12% more expensive than the RTX 3050 which is meaningless because the RX 6600 is a whopping 69% more potent than the RTX 3050 and has 8GB of VRAM instead of only 6GB (33% more than the RTX 3050 6GB). Because of this, the RX 6600 easily offers some of the best performance for the price when it comes to video cards. It's definitely top-3 and I think that the only cards that offer more performance for the price are Intel cards but they have their own problems with questionable stability and egregious power consumption.

I therefore cannot recommend any version of the RX 580 or the RX 3050. To purchase either of those cards would be a mistake. Just get an RX 6600 and be done with it.