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@malmental - My 'feelings' are the same to a degree, but I also understand that she'd be faced with the same disaster. Clinton proved the myth of Supply-Side economics; scares the crap out of Republicans. Fear -> Anger! However, you cannot have an economy on the brink without stimulation. Obama knows all of {my} above, so what is he going to do lie out his a$$ or remain quite. I wish he would placate the sheep on TV.

Unfortunately, IF GNP drops or stalls then you MUST stimulate. The analogy - try starting a Diesel engine if it runs out of gas; it almost burns-out the starter and causes more damage. Think about it.

The thing that really chaps my a$$ is the Psychological Factor - the constant argumentativeness on Capital Hill only does harm to us the US and World horribly. Think of it this way - someone broadcasts in the media "The Interest Rates are going Up!". Okay, since money is a commodity - everyone runs to the bank and borrows at what they PERCEIVE is LOW {media} - that drives the demand up and supply down =====> Interest Rates 'magically' go up 😉
 

Yep!

Ditto with Republican deceptive bantering. I'm in the top tax bracket and I'm fine paying more taxes BUT ONLY for a more stable economy. Take me out of it, my father before he retired employed 10,000~15,000 people the DEMAND dictated his hiring NOT the tax rate.

The VOTES = OUTCOME. People aren't smart enough to make good decisions for themselves. They need a full blown Depression to 'learn' them. Maybe they'll figure-out they out number the head of Corporations and keep them out of controlling them. Corporation's laser focus of exploitation regardless of consequences. Every Fortune 500 CEO/President I met growing-up through my father felt that way. They'd throw a few million any day for a 100+ million in return; THE VOTE.

It's a disaster now because IMO people wanted that way, and still want more disaster to come.
 
^ That chart was a real eye opener :lol:
Though I doubt most people will realize how bad the previous administration has made the economic situation and just blame Obama for everything, including the pre-election economic downturns
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I don't blame obama for the economic recession. He inherited the recession. I do however blame him partially for not fixing it a good amount, because its now been 2.5+ years and we are still in terribly high unemployment, bigger debt, and bad recession.

However I do blame the democratic party in power for the recession, because they are responsible for it.

Saying you doubt most people will realize anything is hypocrisy, because you yourself haven't realized what happened. Part of understanding what caused the economic recession is first to accept the facts and evidence, then connect it together.
 
I was telling people in 2005 that I'd be totally socked if we didn't end-up in either a US or Global Depression. So the 'Great Recession' is a real plus to me considering...

The Congress & Senate needed to use more money {Deficet Spending} for more Stimulus not some half baked 1/2 Stimulus + 1/2 Tax Breaks. Add on top of that several States refused the money!

Then Republican's criticised Obama for increasing the Deficit - making it virtually impossible for another Stimulus Package. GNP {up} = Employment {up} ; I'm thinking here Republican's have a death wish for the US economy to fail -- so they'll do the opposite of what they won't do today -- when they come in power as our 'saviors' tomorrow. This is madness for the US and World to be in this roller coaster ride.

As I said up top - if any politician takes SuperPac, etc money - they all have Corporate self interest attached.

Imagine if WE/everyone posting here own a company - our number #1 objective is profits - right?! So lets say we can produce 'GADGET X' in the USA for $400 or $200 in China -- DUH where are we going to produce it??!! Clearly, China or your off our Board {Bye - See Ya}. Our decision alone cost say 20,000 jobs. Okay, do you think we're to only ones with this 'brilliant' idea? So multiply that by say 100+ companies = 2,000,000 jobs. FIX: {see above - Taxes, Fair Trade, ie Protectionism}; IF China has a protectionism policy -- don't you think we should?! Or do you want to live like they do: 2 Cast Society, and Grass Huts aka Third World.
 
Here's the thing, what if producing that gadget for 200 dollars produces one of half the quality, or worse, then the image of the company can go down.

But yes, I agree, many companies do operate on a profits-first basis. Not all. Some are oriented differently, much like different people have different priorities. This is why the government, which does not, and should not, operate on the same base as a commercial company, may need to stand up for the people as a whole.

 
You also forget to mention that their healthcare is covered for the rest of their lives too
and you better believe they don't settle for the average doctors either. If I am not mistaken this also covers their immediate family for the rest of their lives too.
 
Hmm...quality...ever looked at the back of your iPhone!? Pretty damn good quality.

Since China's Most Favorable Nation status the numbers indicate 10,000,000+ in jobs lost, just since 2001-2008 "Bush, JR" 2,400,000 jobs gone to China.

On the flip-side you ever hear of 'Chinese Drywall' Billions of dollars in damages. So are the Drywall companies paying-out anything in damages, are the out of business, is there a class-action law suit? NO. Those companies are owned, protected, and in full business - they're own by the People's Republic of China. Care to sue the China government - what's your chances of winning.

People are fools, companies are greedy, and life's not fair - facts of life. It's going to take a catastrophe to change.
 
Probably should pay Bill clinton less to avoid more pregnant teens , huh ?
:lol:
or u should just get Hillary plastic surgery
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ACTUALLY, WHEN MR CLINTON LEFT OFFICE AS PRESIDENT, WE WERE NOT IN A DEFICIT AT ALL , IN FACT WE WERE IN THE PLUS + , IT WAS WHEN MR BUSH TOOK OVER AS PRESIDENT IS WHEN THE DEFICITS STARTED AND WE WENT STRAIGHT INTO AN OBLIVION OF DEBT OVER HIS TERMS OF PRESIDENCY. SO YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT MR CLINTON BUT HE KNEW HOW TO KEEP US OUT OF DEBT AND WE STAYED OUT OF DEBT ALL DURING HIS PRESIDENCY...
 
YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT MR CLINTON BUT HE KNEW HOW TO KEEP US OUT OF DEBT
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Failed to mention Clinton's failed foreign policy was directly responsible for the war in Iraq.

Important Reminder: Your Caps Lock is locked on.

[flash=425,349]http://www.youtube.com/v/457jp8VGhEE?version=3&hl=en_US[/flash]
 
Probably should pay Bill clinton less to avoid more pregnant teens , huh ?
:lol:
or u should just get Hillary plastic surgery
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ACTUALLY, WHEN MR. CLINTON WAS IN OFFICE AS OUR PRESIDENT WE HAD NO DEFICIT . IN FACT WE WERE IN THE + . IT WAS WHEN MR BUSH TOOK OVER AS PRESIDENT THAT WE WENT FROM HAVING A + MARGIN TO ACQUIRING WHAT IS NOW THE BIGGEST DEFICIT OF ALL . IN HIS YEARS OF OFFICE MR. BUSH HAS SUCCESSFULLY LED OUR COUNTRY INTO A DOWNWARD SPIRAL OF DEFICITS , WHILE ENABLING THE RICH TO GET RICHER AND THE POOR REMAINING POOR OR EVEN POORER. AND NOW LOOK AT OUR DEFICIT . AND IF YOU THINK I AM WRONG LOOK IT UP FROM WHEN MR CLINTON RAN OUR COUNTRY AND FROM WHEN MR BUSH TOOK OVER AND OVER RAN OUR COUNTRY. IT IS THERE IN FINE INK .
 


A classic indeed. One of my all time favs. Not even [strike]Monica[/strike] Mama forgets the classics.

[:badge] You better ask your Mama Sherri baby.

Thanks for the memories.
 
Republican's were saying the same exact things. The NSA and CIA were fighting against the Bush administration prerogative for war because the WMD's were a proven myth from Army's intelligence post 911.

However, Iraq did indeed kill thousands using gas and the sanctions during Clinton's administration had the affect of those facilities being dismantled. The video takes erupts from the Halabja poison gas attack in 1988 {Clinton time} and post 911 {Bush time}.

Army's intelligence found ALL the facilities dismantled. Bush, JR ignored it deliberately - he wanted a war - payback, war is profitable & OIL. Remember, what I said about Bush, SR when he lead the CIA.

Allied countries refused to take part and the US people wanted retribution -- and we all were manipulated. I believe there's a film about this - Google & watch it - I think one was called the Green Zone.
 
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