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I don't need a film to know history myself.

People fragment and then contort linear time to suit themselves.

IMO {yes opinion} if hunting down US terrorists is the objective then the most effective way is to have small groups of Special OPS assassinate proven terrorists.

Example - imagine some USA nut job along with their crazy followers bombs Moscow, how would 'we' feel about Russia or any other Country launching a full-out war against us the USA? Keep in mind the 911 terrorists primarily came from Saudi Arabia; it's like you punching me an me shooting a stranger in the crowd.

I'm 14th generation here and I love this country and I'm a patriot and NSSAR however I don't like where it's going and I blame anyone who takes large sums of money for a VOTE against the US, its' interests and its people regardless of political party.
 
We get the vast majority of our imported oil from: Canada, Saudi Arabia, Mexico & South America. We DON'T WANT the middle east to be destabilized. You remember or know of the Oil Embargo 1973-1974, a lot of the wars are a reminder to OAPEC that "hello we're here," and the only reason we have troops in Saudi is to 'protect' the royal family.

Oil could be as low as $0.50~$0.75/gallon, heck in South America it's, last I looked, $0.05/gal and in Iraq $0.15/gal. BLAME 'Standard Oil's' family of companies {post monopoly} for GREED! There's no justification other than another Corporate Greed example.

IF the middle east had no OIL then our policies, like in Africa, would be to let 'em rot, and we won't care less.
 
Actually, the refining capacity is deliberately kept very low -- Google the last time a new refinery was added. It's all about profit and once you 'get' that it is then you'll really be PO'd at the Oil Companies and how they operate.

Think of how a drug dealer works + sprinkle in a few laws, there's enough media, then place the workings on the Oil Companies.

Prices are 100% Supply {keep it low} and Demand derived. The CrAzY thing is alternatives are actually cheaper now. IF you had millions of your own money invested in say Exxon then you'd want $10/gal gas.

Cars TODAY could be getting 100~150+ MPG; vaporize gasoline before combustion. The Oil Companies fund 'Engine ReSeArCh' for the Automobile manufacturer's - DuH??!! I have my B.S. in Chemistry - take a gallon of gas - throw a match in it you'll have nice fire it's all you get; take that same gallon of gas and vaporize it and light a match both you and your neighbors homes have walls missing and you're dead. The combustion engine's efficiency is about exploding fuel NOT burning it.
 
Here's something to really twist your noodle around:

You own a Pharmaceutical Company - is it more profitable to Cure once or Treat forever?

Yes, the World isn't Star Trek. My Grandmother once said, "The love of money is the root of all evil" ; my version "The pursuit of money without consequence is the root to all evil."
 
@greghome - quantify - like in most of Africa. Bottom-line, if a country has few resources no one cares about them. Further, my point is I'm sick of 'our sickness' for oil. We don't need it and there's several alternatives. Further, I don't want us to go to lithium based car batteries - it's trading one dependency for another. We have very little lithium compared to Chile, Argentina, Australia, China, etc. It seems like we're on the short end of the stick there again for resources.

Here's where we're importing our oil -> ftp://ftp.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html
 
Before posting 'stuff' like that do a little Googling first!

Search Bioplastics

This reminds me of people who had to hunt Whales for oil, then drill wells, then after the dark ages came science. The few things that crude oil is 'easier' requires ZERO dependency. My uncle was a lead chemical engineer for Battelle: Coal Gasification/liquefaction , SynGas, polymers, etc -- we don't need oil.

Thank President Carter for Algae fuel, and then thank the Oil Companies for killing it. The ONLY thing that's keeping oil from costing $10+/gal is the 'Threat of Alternative Fuel Sources' - next time you see a chemical engineer shake his hand.

My pick is Hydrogen - zero emissions. LNG is another good'ish choice. In your home you could produce Hydrogen to burn in your cars. Another great source is geothermal to generate electricity. If we spent as much as we did in the middle east for needless war perhaps we'd have viable fusion reactors and end all this craziness and eliminate all CO2 emissions once and for all.

Nice graph for reading impaired:
USES_OF_OIL.JPG
 
What about BioDeisel? Ive heard good things, you can make it from any organic material and all existing diesel vehicles (Tractor trailers, school buses, Trucks w/ truck nuts, etc) could run it with NO modifications.
 
I'm fine with 'most' any BIO fuels, but I'm not so 'fine' using 'foods' for fuel. I don't want to see fertile land used for a 'crude' fuel producing fields.

Algae fuel note all the derivatives including Biodiesel -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel

As I mentioned earlier, the Desiel was originally designed to combust 'natural oils' {non petroleum based} then it was converted for petroleum later.
 
It's as likely as using a crude oil Golden Gate plastic bridge. You seem to be a programmed drone; I'm not stuck in a box of a limited perspective. You need to think for yourself and understand the misdirection and misinformation you've been told over the years.

The problem is you, I and most have no say, no power, and very limited options. I get that we painted ourselves into a corner and it's going to get really messy to get out.

Don't confuse me with a 'Green Guy', my motives are being self sufficient and cutting any ties for Dependency in any form, economically feasible, and in particular renewable. edit: I do prefer to be CO2 neutral, I don't like Global Warming.
 
@mingo: Oh good, your slow-clap processor is still working. At least we have that.

@jaq: Look, the H2 batteries we have are crap. You are a chemistry major, how much energy does hydrogen give off when *combusted* with oxygen? compared to gasoline?

*2*H2 + *1*O2= *2*H20

 
Each molecular Hydrogen {H2} yields 286 kJ/mol, and each Kilojoule 10^3 joules, so 286 kJ/mol = 286,000 joules/mol of H2.

2 mol of dihydrogen and 1 mol of dioxygen reacting to form 2 mol of water so the effective yield is 586,000 joules to balance the reaction.

edit: IF you believe that 100% of the release energy can be capture or utilized you're kidding yourself. For some odd reason we're now discussing a reaction. The next silly argument I'm expecting is the Hindenburg; I much rather have a Hydrogen burn through my tank than be engulfed in a gasoline fire.
 
Yes, now factor-in fusion reactors for virtually limitless electricity and using the electricity to convert Water into Hydrogen gas and we have a virtually limitless supply of 100% clean combustible fuel.

-- That day will be very cool, but if it happened too quickly it would collapse the World economy.
 
What about using solar panels for electrolysis and converting it to h2 and O2 gas. I would like to do my own system apparatus to create H2 gas, but I do not know how to store it, nor compress the gas to store more molecules.
 
The 'newer' solar panels seem to take less energy to manufacture lately, and you need to factor-in energy to produce -> energy captured {time}. The silicon photovoltaic cells including thin films TCO, glass, and housing consume a lot of {energy} to manufacture. The 'plastic' film cells take less {energy} to manufacture, but their lifespan is in question.

Frankly, I'm not up to date. Once I looked into them for my house and unless I plan to live here for a l-o-n-g-t-i-m-e it seemed cost prohibitive. I'd have an upfront investment of $35,000+ and my typical electric bill is $350+/mo so 8+ years to break-even; the logivity is 20~25 years. So after 20-8 = 12 X 12 X $350 = $50,400~$71,400 {net savings}; **this assumes my daytime 'metering back' to the electric company exceeds or matches the nighttime use for a net 0. **
 
BTW - my uncle is Herman Feldmann -> http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GPEA_en___US371&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Battelle#sclient=psy&hl=en&rlz=1C1GPEA_en___US371&source=hp&q=Herman+Feldmann+%2BBattelle&pbx=1&oq=Herman+Feldmann+%2BBattelle&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=25129l25129l1l26001l1l1l0l0l0l0l116l116l0.1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c88d52fddef0ee5d&biw=1400&bih=959

I'm the lazy one of very smart and motivated people. I never went into chemical engineering (parents wanted an MD), I followed one of my father's side-paths he was an electrical engineer and primarily did electrical construction office towers, mfg plants, airports, etc but was also did real estate. I followed the real estate path of development, building construction, mortgage, broker, and now I own a data center for REO/IDX/Tax Data/etc.
 
You know if I said eating Uranium was bad for you - I truly believe you'd say it was a good thing "human evolution needs needs a mutated genome to evolve."

You need to look at costs versus income for most folks, gasoline at $1/gal impact on disposable income versus $3~$4+/gal. Hell people are having to choose between their 'HARD Expenses' like health care, housing, food, much less whether to buy 'stuff' that stimulates much more of the overall economy. If gasoline costs $100/gal I can go on my Sunday drives, but the OTHER 99%+ would be screwed. I don't make decisions based upon my needs, I am concerned about the upward spiraling costs of OIL and its impact on our and the global economy.

Companies TODAY don't give a rip about any of their employees; company loyalty is dead and buried. IF the MIDDLE CLASS dies then so will our and any country along with it.

We are at a precipist and the Demand for Energy isn't going away.

Substitution - 1M Jobs OIL -> 1M Jobs RENEWABLE Energy.

Chart - limit of 'OIL' global supply:
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I'm done for the day.
 
@greghome - that's just silly. If we have Fiscal Failure/Depression -> Anarchy -> Communism in the USA then thank Bush/Republican. Vote for Rick Perry 'D' student who wanted Secession of Texas from the Union and destroy social security & medicare.

@badge - look at the debt graph on the prior page.

@malmental - another Bush/Republican failure

Republicans - yEaH!
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You know, this discussion is helping me decide what I want to be when I "grow up" and retire in a couple of years. I have been toying with the idea of going into the alternative energy industry for a while now.

The US tends to lead in the development of these technologies, we just don't implement them well. Seems this is an opportunity waiting to happen....Anybody else interested?
 
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