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http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/10/rev-franklin-graham-obama-has-shaken-his-fist-at-god/
According to Graham, who noted that North Carolina is the 31st state to pass a traditional marriage amendment, Obama’s message flies in the face of 8,000 years of tradition.

“The institution of marriage should not be defined by presidents or polls, governors or the media,” said Graham. “The definition was set long ago and changing legislation or policy will never change God’s definition. This is a sad day for America. May God help us.”

 
And if this was all it was, it wouldnt be an issue, but this is a in your face scenario to many people, to the very definition, and I personally think pols do this for political reasons only.
Another evolved devisive attitude from our president.
 
Not to really get nit picky here but marriage was pretty much a formal exchange of property, accompanied with a dowry and the promise of a son.

Also, if you want to use the 8,000 year old definition polygamy would have been included there. Solomon had like 700 wives, there were multiple gay marriages in medieval China, Japan, the samurai were notoriously gay, so were the Spartans. Its not like homosexuality is a new thing. So we as a notion can change the word marriage to mean a union between ONLY one man and one woman instead of multiple but we cant change it to accommodate this? Seems like hypocrisy.

But again these are all steps in the right direction. I live in a state that allows gay marriage and has for years, there is no problem.

I think Oldman represents the majority of conservatives, at least as I see it. But I also think that having two same sex people propose by one of them asking ¨Will you Civil Union Me?¨ is going to fade fast and in 30 years same sex couples will be getting married both by law and by name.

Also what would be the harm of the federal gov acknowledging a same sex marriage?
 
"And what is all over the media? Gay marriage. Seriously? "

Only because of two things.
The presidents madness for reelection and appeasing his followers
and two
Those followers, the MSM, actually got another tingle down their leg effect, which shows how truly messed up things are, and instead of trying to step away from such foolishness, the president embraces it, and makes our MSM worse whores than they already were.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/05/10/abcs_robin_roberts_on_interviewing_obama_im_getting_chill_again.html
 
Point is, this is being delusional, and theyre here, by the rights given them thru the constitution to give the truth, the facts, not go out and call 1 guy a flip flopper, then call another a thrill to listen to, while that one flips as well.
In the mean time, all these things are going on, and the very job of these people are left behind them to promote and be thrilled by Mr B.O.
 
Its the obvious bias shown, the disregard of the 31 states that have their own constitution definitions on marriage, as they only give it lip service, mainly due to their bias.
I would ask you, if this were a tradition of color, of race or anything else, it would be held sacrosanct, but since its against traditional ways, its shoved in the peoples face.

This is not a matter of right, this is a matter of changing the meaning of a tradition, which is taboo in sooo many ways for many people, regardless of political position, and shows the disrespect the MSM and the president has.
 
I think its disrespectful not to allow people to become gay married. And your argument goes both ways, I live where it is OK to be married to a person of the same sex, but the federal government doesn't acknowledge them as being married. Could you imagine slave owners using the ¨Its a tradition defense?¨ Or the church justifying child abuse with the same idea?

But again the point you made about the 8000 year old definition always being between a man and a woman is wrong. If anything the original definition of marriage was a business proposal between a man and as many woman as he felt is necessary.

Are we more or less free if the government tells us who we can and cannot marry?

and

Why would allowing two people of the same sex to get married be detrimental to our society?

Also since the bible never explicitly states anything about lesbians can they get married? It says a man shouldn't lay with a man but it says nothing about scissoring.
 
So, youll now be considered a liar mingo, not because its true, nor because its a majority decision that shows you arent a liar, its just this little group over here wants to change a few words, and how you used them.
It doesnt change anything at all about you, or about them, it changes the perception of you and your words.
Once you change the meaning of words, there is not justice.

This is simply a time honored, and respected tradition, and even tho it means far less than it used to, people want it to be honored so.
 
Also its not 80% that will be offended more like 48%.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/154529/Half-Americans-Support-Legal-Gay-Marriage.aspx

Also JDJ Im having a really hard time understanding what you are saying. I dont get the me being a liar thing because I want rights for all people.....

If straight marriage is such a time honored tradition why are divorce rates skyrocketing? Wouldn't want to mar 24 hour marriages.....

Beside its not about what you want, why should the government care about who you marry? Move to North Carolina or 30 other states if the thought of two gay people being married within the same state as you makes you uncomfortable. States can do whatever they want but there is no reason to block this because the gov shouldn't care about marriage.
 
So, words have no meanings.
There is no justice.
When a poll comes out, it looks good.
When it goes to ballot, even in Cali, it gets crushed.

Understand, there are misperceptions here, and honor has not died concerning marriage and what it means to people, and only shows so by the gay initiative anyways, so Im not sure where youre going with the divorce thing.
You cant have it both ways.
 

I totally agree
My response to the in your face issnt what many gay want, nor most people want or both think, but there are some driving a agenda
 
You are really pertaining to semantics here in your post.
 
Divorce in the Bible is not praised by GOD by we still do it today.Explain that one.
 
I am all for gay marriage.

I want to keep all my bets open.

Once day I may wake up and want tits instead of to kust getting to play with them.

I think having that option ... as well as wanting to be spiderman, flying a jet plane, perhaps walking on mars and owning a Cray should not be denied me.

In the meantime i am going to scope out some overclocked red pumps.

:)
 
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