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Sorry, but im not for argue, both the pc and consoles are good, problem is today you spent 300$ on a gpu or proc, but after 6 months is half the price, especially gpu. And i hate also the trailers with 3 yeats ahead of a game, like Ff 13. Ok the game looks solid, but until 2010 is a long way to go. Even if other have 3 way gtx 295 sli they cant play Okami or other exclusive game, that s sad. I have a medium rig but consoles are beside me. Blizzard get that f.....g games out, i dont want my son to play it...
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[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]I accept NEW TECH dude, read on then post, im a man not ASS, and already have quad, but i dont buy ati 4xxx BECAUSE no good GAME is on horizont for ME. I dont need 8 gb ram, BECAUSE again until 2011 no good game is released(except some xbox ports). The conclusion i wanted to show was SSD is good, super ultra fast...BUT for what games? Wow online maybe.Is my choice with xbox, i go or not on LIVE, again my choice. You embarased if i give 1 one example of game with bugs on pc, but on 360 almost none. Is about Last remnant, so you who love pc much much, what is the bugs and differences from 360? Aside the good things, load faster, rezolution etc....I WANT the bugs and misses. Cmon i wait...[/citation]
So your only point I can't argue with is the lack of good games (I can't argue because 'good' is something subjective). But let me ask you this: What games are console-only? The Force Unleashed? O, no: they are releasing it on PC after all. Gears of War 2? Oh, they released the first one on PC, and since it's MS... I don't think that one will stay console-only either...
Killzone2? OK, that game is awesome, but then again:what about PC-only? Right: they exist too! Since I'm mainly an RTS gamers, I could point to all of them, but talking about FPS's there was Crysis, Half-Life 2, Portal, Cryostasis, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., TF2, need I go on?
Your point that PC would have inferior games may be true for you, since it IS possible you only like the few console-games, but that seems a bit strange to me, and if true at all, I doubt many share your opinion.
Your point about PC-hardware ageing fast is the last I shall address: Are you so blind you don't see the parts in consoles are the same, so they age just as fast? The difference is that consoles stay the same for about 5 years. The advantage is all the games will run at 'max', the disadvantage is the quality of consolegames staying the same for 5 years.
But mind you can jsut as easily use a PC for 5 years with the same effect: at first the games will run at max, but after a while you'll have to turn them down a bit.
But since your hardware stays the same, games will always look just as good as those first games at max (so just as good as your GFX-card can render them) so you never LOSE something in terms of gameplay or GFXquality or availability of games.
So your only point I can't argue with is the lack of good games (I can't argue because 'good' is something subjective). But let me ask you this: What games are console-only? The Force Unleashed? O, no: they are releasing it on PC after all. Gears of War 2? Oh, they released the first one on PC, and since it's MS... I don't think that one will stay console-only either...
Killzone2? OK, that game is awesome, but then again:what about PC-only? Right: they exist too! Since I'm mainly an RTS gamers, I could point to all of them, but talking about FPS's there was Crysis, Half-Life 2, Portal, Cryostasis, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., TF2, need I go on?
Your point that PC would have inferior games may be true for you, since it IS possible you only like the few console-games, but that seems a bit strange to me, and if true at all, I doubt many share your opinion.
Your point about PC-hardware ageing fast is the last I shall address: Are you so blind you don't see the parts in consoles are the same, so they age just as fast? The difference is that consoles stay the same for about 5 years. The advantage is all the games will run at 'max', the disadvantage is the quality of consolegames staying the same for 5 years.
But mind you can jsut as easily use a PC for 5 years with the same effect: at first the games will run at max, but after a while you'll have to turn them down a bit.
But since your hardware stays the same, games will always look just as good as those first games at max (so just as good as your GFX-card can render them) so you never LOSE something in terms of gameplay or GFXquality or availability of games.
Crysis is a benchmark, not a game, so stay put. Ps2 stayed 10 years not 5.You re out of the league. If you compare exclusives of the consoles with one s of pc - lol is a joke of the day. Youre young and dont play much, some shooter and is off, so come when know my answer of Last remnant (pc vs 360). Go with friend on a beer, is a easy task.
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[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Crysis is a benchmark, not a game, so stay put.[/quote]
It's a game. A game that received 9.5 on gamespot... It even got an average rating of 9/100!!! If you had actully played it, you'd know it has a great story and gameplay... And obviously great graphics.
It's a game. A game that received 9.5 on gamespot... It even got an average rating of 9/100!!! If you had actully played it, you'd know it has a great story and gameplay... And obviously great graphics.
I said about 5 years. The PS3 came out 6/6,5 years after the PS2. You lose.And at the end of its life the graphics were shit compared to anything coming out on PC.
I name dexclusive titles for the PX that recieved great scores. Were are you console-only games? Sure, PC may get games a few months after the consoles, but really: there aren't a lot of good console-only games. If you know a proper amount: please name them and provide critic reviews.
You must talk after 2 beers my friend, i mean if the ps4 come today that mean ps3 last 3 years? Ok, let others judge. I dont care about graphycs, on pc devs stays out, ask them why. I dont waste my time to name the games, there s hundreds of them, and each of us have gamespot, if you want good graphyc stay with 3 way sli 295 or whatever, i will play Okami or other OLD game, but that game WORK from start to finish, no errors no fps drop, no shit. Get ready your money for dx 11 cards and leave us, none of this guys or experts dont know to answer my question with bugs of Last remnant, so go home. I dont say that pc is bad, read all. Go take a tour at E3 2009, how many pc games ? Hmmm almost none, and who won best graphycs ? Uncharted 2, oops. I will play it for you when is come out in Octomber, you stay and hope that will come to pc.
You WANT good graphycs? i mean you have 120 hz lcd and googles? I doubt that, they cost 1500 $. For what game you ask? Resident evil 5 on pc.
Vaya con dios !!!
You WANT good graphycs? i mean you have 120 hz lcd and googles? I doubt that, they cost 1500 $. For what game you ask? Resident evil 5 on pc.
Vaya con dios !!!
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[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]You must talk after 2 beers my friend, i mean if the ps4 come today that mean ps3 last 3 years? Ok, let others judge. I dont care about graphycs, on pc devs stays out, ask them why.[/citation]
Ask developers why they don't like the PS3: it is HARD to develop for, adoption rates are low becasue of the console's high price and therefore gamesales are low.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]I dont waste my time to name the games, there s hundreds of them, and each of us have gamespot,[/citation]
So basically you are saying 'there are a lot of exclusives but I'm too lazy to make a point'... Good thing dude. I suggest you tone down on the beers (cause you seem to be talking way too much about them)
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]if you want good graphyc stay with 3 way sli 295 or whatever,[/citation]
I have a 80$ HD4850 with 1GB VRAM, and it runs Crysis jsut fine, thank you.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]i will play Okami or other OLD game, but that game WORK from start to finish, no errors no fps drop, no shit.[/citation]
Did you even read my post? I addressed your argument about 'bugs': you are an idiot if you think PC games have more flaws than consolegames.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Get ready your money for dx 11 cards [/citation]
I have a surprise for you: while you HAVE to buy a new console for the new generation of games (because hey, an PS3 game ofc doesn't run on a PS2 😉 ) A PC doesn'ty HAVE to be u^pgraded for the new generation of games! Sure, a DX11card will run a DX11 game better, but DX10 cards are fully compatible with DX10. Apart from the DX9 - DX10 transition, that's the way it has always been. And even than, the amount of decent DX10-only games is STILL very low!
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]and leave us,[/citation]
again: you started your crusade against PC-gamers.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]none of this guys or experts dont know to answer my question with bugs of Last remnant, so go home.[/citation]
Again, I have no idea what you are talking about. If that is a reason for me to 'go home', I'd rather suggest you take an extra English class. English isn't my first language either... Actually it's my third.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]I dont say that pc is bad, read all.[/citation]
And yet you can't stop flaming everything PC? While the PC has soem downsides to the console (mainly the console creates less of a barrier and is easier to use) you address totally different points that make no sense.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Go take a tour at E3 2009, how many pc games ? Hmmm almost none, and who won best graphycs ? Uncharted 2, oops. [/citation]
IS that it, one game? wow... I saw uncharted2 on E3, and yes, it does look good, but I'm sorry to tell you crysis still beats it. I meanb, did you see the part where he hides behind a 1cm thick wooden plate, and a machinegun-mounted chjopper COULDN'T SHOOT HIM??? It's not just about graphics, destructability is also a thing crysis is still ahead of the curve, and it's something that really adds to the gaming experience.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]I will play it for you when is come out in Octomber, you stay and hope that will come to pc. You WANT good graphycs? i mean you have 120 hz lcd and googles? I doubt that, they cost 1500 $. For what game you ask? Resident evil 5 on pc.Vaya con dios !!![/citation]
Again you totally seem to miss the point: I don't HAVE to upgrade for RE5. Sure, I could, and it would give me better graphics, but If I play the game on high instead of very high, I'll still get a great looking game, good framerate and great experience.
Ask developers why they don't like the PS3: it is HARD to develop for, adoption rates are low becasue of the console's high price and therefore gamesales are low.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]I dont waste my time to name the games, there s hundreds of them, and each of us have gamespot,[/citation]
So basically you are saying 'there are a lot of exclusives but I'm too lazy to make a point'... Good thing dude. I suggest you tone down on the beers (cause you seem to be talking way too much about them)
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]if you want good graphyc stay with 3 way sli 295 or whatever,[/citation]
I have a 80$ HD4850 with 1GB VRAM, and it runs Crysis jsut fine, thank you.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]i will play Okami or other OLD game, but that game WORK from start to finish, no errors no fps drop, no shit.[/citation]
Did you even read my post? I addressed your argument about 'bugs': you are an idiot if you think PC games have more flaws than consolegames.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Get ready your money for dx 11 cards [/citation]
I have a surprise for you: while you HAVE to buy a new console for the new generation of games (because hey, an PS3 game ofc doesn't run on a PS2 😉 ) A PC doesn'ty HAVE to be u^pgraded for the new generation of games! Sure, a DX11card will run a DX11 game better, but DX10 cards are fully compatible with DX10. Apart from the DX9 - DX10 transition, that's the way it has always been. And even than, the amount of decent DX10-only games is STILL very low!
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]and leave us,[/citation]
again: you started your crusade against PC-gamers.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]none of this guys or experts dont know to answer my question with bugs of Last remnant, so go home.[/citation]
Again, I have no idea what you are talking about. If that is a reason for me to 'go home', I'd rather suggest you take an extra English class. English isn't my first language either... Actually it's my third.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]I dont say that pc is bad, read all.[/citation]
And yet you can't stop flaming everything PC? While the PC has soem downsides to the console (mainly the console creates less of a barrier and is easier to use) you address totally different points that make no sense.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Go take a tour at E3 2009, how many pc games ? Hmmm almost none, and who won best graphycs ? Uncharted 2, oops. [/citation]
IS that it, one game? wow... I saw uncharted2 on E3, and yes, it does look good, but I'm sorry to tell you crysis still beats it. I meanb, did you see the part where he hides behind a 1cm thick wooden plate, and a machinegun-mounted chjopper COULDN'T SHOOT HIM??? It's not just about graphics, destructability is also a thing crysis is still ahead of the curve, and it's something that really adds to the gaming experience.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]I will play it for you when is come out in Octomber, you stay and hope that will come to pc. You WANT good graphycs? i mean you have 120 hz lcd and googles? I doubt that, they cost 1500 $. For what game you ask? Resident evil 5 on pc.Vaya con dios !!![/citation]
Again you totally seem to miss the point: I don't HAVE to upgrade for RE5. Sure, I could, and it would give me better graphics, but If I play the game on high instead of very high, I'll still get a great looking game, good framerate and great experience.
You have to upgrade man, to maximize it. On pc with latest OS, old games often dont work, again youre out of the league boy. Go to your donuts and leave us, and start to read all, everybody HAVE INTERNET so i dont post numbers and reviews. Come after 10 years whem you grow up, and change 5 rigs by then. At least games will work on ps3, no AA and shit, but work. Ps3 is hard to develop? Lol ps2 was either in first years. Come back to reality.
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[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]You have to upgrade man, to maximize it. On pc with latest OS, old games often dont work, again youre out of the league boy. Go to your donuts and leave us, and start to read all, everybody HAVE INTERNET so i dont post numbers and reviews. Come after 10 years whem you grow up, and change 5 rigs by then. At least games will work on ps3, no AA and shit, but work. Ps3 is hard to develop? Lol ps2 was either in first years. Come back to reality.[/citation]
srsly, how old are you? 12? Cause you really look like a child pretending to be an adult.
FIrts of: you contradict yourself: first you say you have to maximise everything on the PC, but afterwards you don't mind the PS3 doesn't have AA? That's a serious double standard you ahve there. Sure, if you want to play everything at max all the time, you have to upgrade every year. But only spoiled rich kids do that. Normal gamers don't mind playing on medium (cause hey, newsflash: most PC-games on medium look better then consoel-games).
You constantly hammer on the fact you don't mind graphics, but now you say you have to max everything on the PC? I would almost say 'read your own posts'...
I'm asking for reviews because I don't know a lot of console-only games that got a good score. I am asking you to back up your claims. If you're too lazy to do that, you lost the discussion, because frankly, you didn't make a good point so far.
And the PS3 IS hard to develop on... Sony said so themselves!!!
Since 'everybody have internet' I thought you, a seemingly srsly brainwashed PS3-fanboy (YES, you are!) would know about that.
srsly, how old are you? 12? Cause you really look like a child pretending to be an adult.
FIrts of: you contradict yourself: first you say you have to maximise everything on the PC, but afterwards you don't mind the PS3 doesn't have AA? That's a serious double standard you ahve there. Sure, if you want to play everything at max all the time, you have to upgrade every year. But only spoiled rich kids do that. Normal gamers don't mind playing on medium (cause hey, newsflash: most PC-games on medium look better then consoel-games).
You constantly hammer on the fact you don't mind graphics, but now you say you have to max everything on the PC? I would almost say 'read your own posts'...
I'm asking for reviews because I don't know a lot of console-only games that got a good score. I am asking you to back up your claims. If you're too lazy to do that, you lost the discussion, because frankly, you didn't make a good point so far.
And the PS3 IS hard to develop on... Sony said so themselves!!!
Since 'everybody have internet' I thought you, a seemingly srsly brainwashed PS3-fanboy (YES, you are!) would know about that.
I also have ps2,xbox 1 and 360 and medium rig. Yes i leave you to donuts. Go to bed, i said maximize for max graphycs not on my rig, go play Last remnant on pc, then after 100 h play it on 360 , THEN come to post vs ME. Until then stay quiet, and rest a little. The fact or answer is simple, you can post: I dont know about that game, or f....g game, because i prefere to go with a blondie(girl) or shot some enemies at Crysis - and i forgive you, serious. I mean amateures and profi are different league i believe.
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[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]I also have ps2,xbox 1 and 360 and medium rig. Yes i leave you to donuts.[citation]
I don't eat donuts. If that is meant as an 'all americans are stupid donut-eaters'-insult: I'm European... SO: TROLLINGFAIL!
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Go to bed, i said maximize for max graphycs not on my rig,[/citation]
I ahev no idea what you mean. Please rephrase.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]go play Last remnant on pc, then after 100 h play it on 360 , THEN come to post vs ME.[/citation]
Maybe I will play it, since Gamespot's review says "The PC version of this fun and fascinating role-playing game is far superior to its Xbox 360 counterpart." If you are too lazy to click the link and compare the reviews: the xbox version got 6,5, while the PC version got 8/10.
Seems the only point by example you TRIED to make so far failed.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Until then stay quiet, and rest a little.[/citation]
So because you seem to only have the brains to come up with jsut one game, that's the only point you want to discuss? You are an immature idiot troll. unless you give me at least 10 console-exclusive titles that got decent reviews in your next post, this thread is over and you lose big time.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]The fact or answer is simple, you can post: I dont know about that game, or f....g game, because i prefere to go with a blondie(girl) or shot some enemies at Crysis - and i forgive you, serious. I mean amateures and profi are different league i believe.[/citation]
You FORGIVE me? Who the hell do you think you are? I am trying to have a discussion here, but you keep pretending I somehow owe you something, and you are somehow credible on the subject of gaming?
Wake up: you are an idiot, immature troll that doesn't have the brain to make a point, type a correct sentence. Come back when you mental age is something higher than 3.
I don't eat donuts. If that is meant as an 'all americans are stupid donut-eaters'-insult: I'm European... SO: TROLLINGFAIL!
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Go to bed, i said maximize for max graphycs not on my rig,[/citation]
I ahev no idea what you mean. Please rephrase.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]go play Last remnant on pc, then after 100 h play it on 360 , THEN come to post vs ME.[/citation]
Maybe I will play it, since Gamespot's review says "The PC version of this fun and fascinating role-playing game is far superior to its Xbox 360 counterpart." If you are too lazy to click the link and compare the reviews: the xbox version got 6,5, while the PC version got 8/10.
Seems the only point by example you TRIED to make so far failed.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Until then stay quiet, and rest a little.[/citation]
So because you seem to only have the brains to come up with jsut one game, that's the only point you want to discuss? You are an immature idiot troll. unless you give me at least 10 console-exclusive titles that got decent reviews in your next post, this thread is over and you lose big time.
[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]The fact or answer is simple, you can post: I dont know about that game, or f....g game, because i prefere to go with a blondie(girl) or shot some enemies at Crysis - and i forgive you, serious. I mean amateures and profi are different league i believe.[/citation]
You FORGIVE me? Who the hell do you think you are? I am trying to have a discussion here, but you keep pretending I somehow owe you something, and you are somehow credible on the subject of gaming?
Wake up: you are an idiot, immature troll that doesn't have the brain to make a point, type a correct sentence. Come back when you mental age is something higher than 3.
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The second game of me 12 years is: Gta 4, not to be missed...i mean with dual core many must agree the game is a shame on pc, you need a decent quad core, at least 1 gb ram gpu (yes 1 gb with max settings), and even so differences are negative on pc. Bugs, dozens of patches until they forget what to patch, etc etc. You want the third ?
Who the hell are you that you dont have IE and gamespot ? http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=top_rated&platform=7&mode=all&sort=score&page_type=games&dlx_type=all&date_filter=all&sortdir=asc&official=all
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As I said: most of those games are also on PC, so you still didn't prove your point that consoles have better games.
And no, I don not have IE. IE is by far the worst browser ever made. If you use it, you deserve your ignorance.
And no, I don not have IE. IE is by far the worst browser ever made. If you use it, you deserve your ignorance.
Eh on medium, but the dream is high i presume. And you forget the bugs, or errors, but doesnt matter....work that way either.I want the SSD as bad as you, most for my OS, and game either. I only expect Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2, maybe Cc 4...and until 2010 is a long wayyyyyy. Dont get angry because life is short.
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[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]Eh on medium, but the dream is high i presume. And you forget the bugs, or errors, but doesnt matter....work that way either.I want the SSD as bad as you, most for my OS, and game either. I only expect Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2, maybe Cc 4...and until 2010 is a long wayyyyyy. Dont get angry because life is short.[/citation]
...which are PC-only games btw, and probably a few of the best games of the coming decade.
So why the hell do you hate PC's so badly? Just because you have to wait for those blizzard-games? Because I've got news for you: Blizzard ALWAYS takes a long time for development, because they want their games to be PERFECT. And their games usually ARE PERFECT. But those long waiting times have NOTHING to do with the PC, that's just Blizzard, I suggest you read some info on the developers you are waiting for...
...which are PC-only games btw, and probably a few of the best games of the coming decade.
So why the hell do you hate PC's so badly? Just because you have to wait for those blizzard-games? Because I've got news for you: Blizzard ALWAYS takes a long time for development, because they want their games to be PERFECT. And their games usually ARE PERFECT. But those long waiting times have NOTHING to do with the PC, that's just Blizzard, I suggest you read some info on the developers you are waiting for...
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[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]In the hand of a pro, Ie surpasses Mozilla or others, i mean a stupid Glock in a hand of a profi outclasses a Bazooka. Grow up.[/citation]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You are the funniest guy in the universe. You use IE because MS tells you to by bundling it with your Windows PC. If you believe IE is superior you are pathetic 😛
it is slower, has terrible Acid-scores and uses more memory.
As MS says it: get the facts... Just don't get them from MS 😉
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You are the funniest guy in the universe. You use IE because MS tells you to by bundling it with your Windows PC. If you believe IE is superior you are pathetic 😛
it is slower, has terrible Acid-scores and uses more memory.
As MS says it: get the facts... Just don't get them from MS 😉
http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&category=Role-Playing&platform=7&mode=top&page=games&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc&official=all&tag=latestheadlines;category;3
Are ten or not? Expect them on pc...another life or with emulator.
Are ten or not? Expect them on pc...another life or with emulator.
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[citation][nom]xavier_23[/nom]http://www.gamespot.com/games.html [...] category;3Are ten or not? Expect them on pc...another life or with emulator.[/citation]
At last you have a point. But let me put that in perspective: the console has those games, sure, and the PC has these games.
So there really isn't a big difference in sheer number of great games between console and PC.
Do you get what I'm trying to say? You pretend the consoles have WAY more WAY better games, but that just isn't true: in terms of available games, there isn't a clearly superior platform.
At last you have a point. But let me put that in perspective: the console has those games, sure, and the PC has these games.
So there really isn't a big difference in sheer number of great games between console and PC.
Do you get what I'm trying to say? You pretend the consoles have WAY more WAY better games, but that just isn't true: in terms of available games, there isn't a clearly superior platform.
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